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FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS?


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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:08:51 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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Perhaps it has been months... you travel in different forums than I do!

I am not a moderator here, but I support them because I respect the job, and because they are my friends. They are not creating the policies, just implementing them. I think that I would have a hard time distinguishing between one person calling a gay man a homo, and another referring to a lady as "manzilla". In what way are those intrinsically different?

Moderation does not involve moderators reading EVERY SINGLE POST. Most of it is reporting, monitoring of problem posters, and sheer coincidence of seeing something scroll across the feed. I don't expect every single thing to be pounced on. Shoot, I only recently learned how to use that REPORT button! It makes me sad that I REALLY have no clue what is and is not a bad thing to say. Due to my early experiences here, I have always been cautious about what I say. Now I am even hesitant to make a joke---is it a hijack?



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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:14:45 PM   
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Good question. Having been...ahem...moderated before, ahem, I have learned this:

Not to call someone a name.
You criticize what someone says, not who they are, i.e. it is stupid to play with people you don't know rather than you are so stupid to play with people you don't know.

The more difficult things to access are when a hijack is bad, if you are being too funny/sarcastic and it is being taken wrong, being off topic, etc.

I feel for the moderators and believe that if lunatics come here and go insane, the should be modded; but most free speech should be allowed, if done civilly.

Which I admit, is quite hard to do sometimes when you want to smack the shit out of some moron.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:15:08 PM   
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I just wanted you all to know that I am returning today fresh off of moderation. I have learned my lesson and promise to avoid certain posters in the future.

ps - I didn't answer the poll because I thought it was stupid

(Mods, notice I attacked the post and not the poster.)

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:24:26 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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LOLing at Brainy in advance!! You couldn't resist coming back, could you?

I'm with you, Sexyred, I know that I tend to chatter, and if the thread is pointless shit, how much damage is being caused there? Are we here to pontificate or converse?

I have managed so far to not describe people in the words that are running through my mind. Domi knows that when I call him a fishfucker, it is out of the great love and respect I have for the ChocoJesu and the bearer of the Domidong. I can wonder why Icarys is so consistently unpleasant to other posters, but never seems to get modded, and I manage to not call him names. I am glad that he has dogs though. Unconditional lovers, dogs. Plus, they have limited knowledge of human speech.

I moderate on Fetlife, where EVERYONE KNOWS who the moderators are, and it is a giant game of whack a mole. I wish that the moderators were public here, too, I have never liked anonymous moderation. Why the secrecy, anyway?

OMG. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CLIQUE, don't they.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:40:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

haha...that seems to be a common sentiment



Truly. In the past few weeks I have seen serious longtime posters get modded off the boards while posters like the OP are given "awaiting approval" for doing nothing but sucking up bandwidth. Is the how the pendulum swings?


Hark I hear the waaaaaaaaaaaabulance...I am sure your comrads were innocent and undeserving of why this happened to them. Yet if it was me it would be all hoops and hollers and praise be to the Mods.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:42:57 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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YAY, you remember the waaaambulance!!

Yes, I would be cheered tremendously if you went away. Of your own free will, even. I have to clarify that not all the posters who left are my friends. Actually, most of them are NOT. Some I dislike, as much as you can dislike someone who doesn't impact realtime life.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:44:11 PM   
Rule


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What have you done, brainiacsub? You are such a cute woman! How can you possibly have to Await?

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:48:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

LOLing at Brainy in advance!! You couldn't resist coming back, could you?

I'm with you, Sexyred, I know that I tend to chatter, and if the thread is pointless shit, how much damage is being caused there? Are we here to pontificate or converse?

I have managed so far to not describe people in the words that are running through my mind. Domi knows that when I call him a fishfucker, it is out of the great love and respect I have for the ChocoJesu and the bearer of the Domidong. I can wonder why Icarys is so consistently unpleasant to other posters, but never seems to get modded, and I manage to not call him names. I am glad that he has dogs though. Unconditional lovers, dogs. Plus, they have limited knowledge of human speech.

I moderate on Fetlife, where EVERYONE KNOWS who the moderators are, and it is a giant game of whack a mole. I wish that the moderators were public here, too, I have never liked anonymous moderation. Why the secrecy, anyway?

OMG. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CLIQUE, don't they.


Yes, it is interesting when certain people who are clearly unpleasant to everyone and provocateurs never seem to get modded, but other really funny and witty people who actually mean well are banned. Weird subjective shit.

I think you uncovered a new clique, The Mod Squad Redux!!

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:48:43 PM   
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[Awaiting Approval]

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:50:29 PM   
brainiacsub


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LadyHib,

I for one am for anonymous moderation. Think of it as 'quality control.' For anyone who has an engineering background such as myself, then you know that quality control works best when it is unbiased and uninfluenced by those producing the product (in this case, the discussions). It is a completely separate and neutral component of the organization. Now it's hard to say if the Mods can ever be truly neutral if they come from among us, but when they start revealing their identity and posting and contributing to the threads, then there is at least a perception of 'nonneutrality.' This perception should be avoided if there is going to be any suggestion of fair and impartial moderation. I prefer not to know who the mods are friends with and who they agee with. I may begin to question their judgement. Just my personal view, of course.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:52:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

In my case, the mods treated me rather fairly. TOS is clear, I was/am clearly a violator.

Others might have a different opinion.

At the end of the day I take some comfort in knowing I am not an asshole.



Jefffffffffffffffffffffffff!! Welcome home asshole ;-)

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:53:18 PM   
Rule


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Yes, it is interesting when certain people who are clearly unpleasant to everyone and provocateurs never seem to get modded

I do recall you being unpleasant and provocating earlier. Perhaps you had better take a long look in the mirror before you complain about kettles?

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:55:03 PM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit
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Et tu, BentUnit? What is the ocean coming to?


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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:56:25 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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Hey, don't be mean to Sexyred, Rule!! I'll tell everybody that it was YOU who inspired the Fabulous Michigan Clique! Oh wait, I just did.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 4:57:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

I do recall you being unpleasant and provocating earlier. Perhaps you had better take a long look in the mirror before you complain about kettles?

Now *that's* funny.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 5:00:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Yes, it is interesting when certain people who are clearly unpleasant to everyone and provocateurs never seem to get modded

I do recall you being unpleasant and provocating earlier. Perhaps you had better take a long look in the mirror before you complain about kettles?



Nah..I am only unpleasant and provocative when I cannot stand someone; you know, remember the thread I challenged you and you called me a dumb blonde since you had no other salient points to make?

And I don't need to look in the mirror, bub, I know exactly what I am about.

Most of all, I am not passive aggressive in my replies. Try the mirror now.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 5:01:00 PM   
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Red can't help being provocative! It would be unfair to moderate her for it!

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 5:02:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Hey, don't be mean to Sexyred, Rule!! I'll tell everybody that it was YOU who inspired the Fabulous Michigan Clique! Oh wait, I just did.


LH, don't be concerned. He doesn't even know what mean is; he would have to do research on it and that is not his forte.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 5:03:18 PM   
brainiacsub


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ORIGINAL: Rule

What have you done, brainiacsub? You are such a cute woman! How can you possibly have to Await?

Looks only go so far when you are a wise ass. Sometimes I wish I were hideous so I could get away with more shit. Ugly people have all the fun.

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RE: FOR MODERATORS OR AGAINST MODERATORS? - 8/30/2010 5:03:27 PM   
Rule


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
Hey, don't be mean to Sexyred, Rule!!

I am never mean, LadyHibiscus.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I'll tell everybody that it was YOU who inspired the Fabulous Michigan Clique! Oh wait, I just did.

I inspired the Fabulous Michigan Clique? But, but ... I don't know anything about that clique! This is the first time I heard about it.

Um, is it something I can be proud off? And in what way did I inspire it? Is it a famous clique with a renowned name and much prestige? Will they buy me a dark beer if they happen to meet me?

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