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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:33:29 AM

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I haven't been on a plane in almost six months and I only went from Las Vegas to San Diego.What are these scanners you are talking about?

I put all my keys and anything metal in my carry on so I can take off my shoes fast :P

Mostly backscatter x-ray machines. There are also millimeter-wave scanners.

These give a full body outline kind of like those comic book x-ray goggles.

Some are worried that people can see there "nekkidness" and worry about leaked images. Some worry about the radiation.

While the radiation is low, this does pose a couple of problems. 1. Pilots and frequently travelers are at a greater risk for exposure. 2. The lower the radiation the less effective these are. 3. Calibration. They have no one that is monitoring their calibration and effectiveness like you would have at a hospital or doctor's office for the direct beam x-ray machines that everyone is familiar with.

Those baggage scanners they use. . . those are really effective and really smart machines.

These backscatter machines are not really very good.

So you're tapped inside this futuristic cage for a good minute? Someone buy me a plane ticket at once! I want to experience this thingy!

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:37:23 AM

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I haven't been on a plane in almost six months and I only went from Las Vegas to San Diego.What are these scanners you are talking about?

I put all my keys and anything metal in my carry on so I can take off my shoes fast :P

Mostly backscatter x-ray machines. There are also millimeter-wave scanners.

These give a full body outline kind of like those comic book x-ray goggles.

Some are worried that people can see there "nekkidness" and worry about leaked images. Some worry about the radiation.

While the radiation is low, this does pose a couple of problems. 1. Pilots and frequently travelers are at a greater risk for exposure. 2. The lower the radiation the less effective these are. 3. Calibration. They have no one that is monitoring their calibration and effectiveness like you would have at a hospital or doctor's office for the direct beam x-ray machines that everyone is familiar with.

Those baggage scanners they use. . . those are really effective and really smart machines.

These backscatter machines are not really very good.

So you're tapped inside this futuristic cage for a good minute? Someone buy me a plane ticket at once! I want to experiment this thingy!

Are you sure? They're bad news if you have a pacemaker.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:40:15 AM

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So you're tapped inside this futuristic cage for a good minute? Someone buy me a plane ticket at once! I want to experiment this thingy!

No, no, no. Find a chance to play with a portable C-arm. Then you can watch on a monitor your hand move under x-ray. Or any other body part.

I will agree that it is neat to watch.

These machines you are not able to view the monitors.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:41:33 AM

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Are you sure? They're bad news if you have a pacemaker.

Or preggers or a bunch of other things. Hence the pat downs.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:45:54 AM

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Well yeah, but anybody stupid enough to agree to be x rayed while pregnant probably deserves to give birth to something out of a horror film.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:48:30 AM

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never underestimate the allure of stupid

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:50:14 AM

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"If I get x rayed, I may have a mutant! Like Wolverine!"

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:54:17 AM

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The dems should ask themselves, What if these searches were allowed during the Bush years ? I guess this one is on Obama.

You do realize that the President doesn't review each and every policy of government agencies?

Or, maybe you don't!

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 8:56:30 AM

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Maybe it was an attempt at irony as all of this crap started after that muslim urban renovation project in New York back in '01?

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:00:29 AM

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The Dems AND Republicans should quit putting up with this crap. Except that they never fly commercial....

Of course they do.

Military transport is very limited, and few have their own private aircraft.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:08:35 AM

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Unless I am very much mistaken, you have no "right" to fly, and therefore whatever limitations and rules are made regarding flying are legal. If you don't like the rules in place you have two choices: 1) Don't fly, 2) Change the rules. Challenging them on some constitutional level is pointless and guaranteed to fail.

I truly tire of this "rights vs. privileges" argument.

It relies on the notion that you have no basic human rights other than what the government grants.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:12:28 AM

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Some facts to counter the hysteria.

The infamous video of the boy being searched with his shirt off. He had set off the scanner and his father had removed his shirt to speed up the rescreening. TSA did not force the boy to take off his shirt.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/22/lawmakers-seek-probe-tsas-pat-training-reported-misbehavior/

The use of the full body scanner and the meticulous pat downs for people who refuse to be scanned and for those who set off the scanner is a minimum to prevent weapons and explosives getting on planes. There is plenty of documentation that earleir security measures were easily beaten. This isn't safety at any cost. Any cost would be the incredibly invasive El Al screening system which would bring air travel to a standstill. The present system is a compromise between safety and privacy.

Since handguns are illegal in Chicago, you would consent to have the CPD have the authority to randomly select people on the street for pat downs, right?

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:16:11 AM

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Even as a ludicrous forced analogy, that's pretty limp. I don't think even the open carry birther teabagger nutcases are lobbying to be allowed to get on a plane tooled up.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:19:45 AM

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Why would that be the distillation of the post? It would seem to me the situation is more at a roadside stop of all cars.

One, you are going to the fucking airport, you know they are going to feel you up.
Two, if you don't let them feel you up, they are going to feel you up anyway.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:25:41 AM

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I truly tire of this "rights vs. privileges" argument.

It relies on the notion that you have no basic human rights other than what the government grants.

And exactly which "basic human right" are they infringing?

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:29:53 AM

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I think rob should get a job at the TSA he seems to want to pat down anyone who dares disagree with him.
talk about apples and oranges

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:50:06 AM

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I truly tire of this "rights vs. privileges" argument.

It relies on the notion that you have no basic human rights other than what the government grants.
And exactly which "basic human right" are they infringing?

You do not think it is a human right to be free from search when you have committed no crime?

And as far as your claim that it cannot be challenged constitutionally you may want to check the fourth amendment.

FindLaw: U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:51:51 AM

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I am going to guess that, they (whoever the hell they is...) also has the 'right' to deny anyone that does not comply, access to the flight.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:53:05 AM

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Nobody is requiring you to submit to the searches, if you don't want to be searched take a train, bus, or drive...simple really

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 9:56:46 AM

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Perhaps too simple since it appears many people just don't 'get it'.

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