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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:00:43 PM   
Lucylastic


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1) a line for people who dont mind being scanned,
2) a line for people who dont wanna be scanned  but dont mind being patted down
3) a line for all the people who thinks their "rights"  are sacred and can waste five hours with all the other complainers.



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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:04:32 PM   
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Here is the KEY part of all of this that you people are not getting, for whatever reason. I have the CHOICE to go to each and every one of those places.........the CHOICE. Not the right! It is not my right to go to a ball game, a rock concert, or fly on a plane. I make the choice, based upon whether or not I have the privilege of entrance fee/money to spend. I am making that CHOICE with the knowledge that the owners of those venues make have requirements I must comply with. If I do not wish to comply, I am in effect, choosing to not attend.

My grocery store, and most restaurants require shoes and a shirt to enter. I comply with that requirement to gain entrance.



No LaT, the key part you are not getting is you do not have the choice.

Would you never go to a grocery store if they subjected you to pat downs?

And flying is no longer something optional but a fact for people who need to travel on business.



Dear Chicken Little..........the sky is not falling.

Yes, I would go to the grocery store if I had to be subject to a pat down. Granted, I would consider moving if indeed, my neighbourhood was so dangerous as to create the sort of threat needed for the grocery store to implement such.

Again.............IF I am going to choose to avail myself of the privilege of air travel, I have ZERO problem complying with whatever measures they've taken to attempt to insure me a safer flight.EVEN if that mean they have to check to make sure there is no questionable junk in my trunk.


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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:04:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I hope they now put in
1) a line for people who dont mind being scanned,
2) a line for people who dont wanna be scanned  but dont mind being patted down
3) a line for all the people who thinks their "rights"  are sacred and can waste five hours with all the other complainers.




Cool.  Ya know they stripped down prior the the showers in the ovens too!

And look at the LA Mayor-   NOTE_  he is wearing HIS SHOES!

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:07:17 PM   
Lucylastic


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Hunky.take a chill pill
dont fly.... they are after your junk and then gonna smoke you out and make you into Pajerky



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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:10:11 PM   
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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:11:12 PM   
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Only 1/5 of All Air Cargo Screened for Bombs - CBS NewsNov 2, 2010 ... TSA: All "High-Risk" Cargo Checked; Congressman Want to Expand Screening to All 9B Pounds Entering US Each Year.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/.../main7014325.shtml - Cached - Add to iGoogle►Only 20 percent of U.S.-bound cargo screened for bombs | Homeland ...Air cargo securityOnly 20 percent of U.S.-bound cargo screened for bombs. Published 4 November 2010. About 20 percent of the nine billion pounds of air ...
homelandsecuritynewswire.com/only-20-percent-us-bound-cargo-screened-bombs


That's another thing I have mentioned a few times on here.

Every airline we travel on carries cargo, apart from passenger's luggage.

What we have is a "feel good" exercise with the measures the TSA has implemented, designed to make people feel all is well. 

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:14:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is true. Cargo IS put in the same planes that carry passengers.  

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:21:40 PM   
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Dear Chicken Little..........the sky is not falling.

Yes, I would go to the grocery store if I had to be subject to a pat down. Granted, I would consider moving if indeed, my neighbourhood was so dangerous as to create the sort of threat needed for the grocery store to implement such.

Again.............IF I am going to choose to avail myself of the privilege of air travel, I have ZERO problem complying with whatever measures they've taken to attempt to insure me a safer flight.EVEN if that mean they have to check to make sure there is no questionable junk in my trunk.



We could have a 100% safe society if we choose that route.

As long as we are willing to give up our freedoms for the sake of security.

What I think is most likely the case here is that many people are afraid of flying to begin with so they are willing to sacrifice their rights for an added sense of safety.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:30:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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Dear Chicken Little..........the sky is not falling.

Yes, I would go to the grocery store if I had to be subject to a pat down. Granted, I would consider moving if indeed, my neighbourhood was so dangerous as to create the sort of threat needed for the grocery store to implement such.

Again.............IF I am going to choose to avail myself of the privilege of air travel, I have ZERO problem complying with whatever measures they've taken to attempt to insure me a safer flight.EVEN if that mean they have to check to make sure there is no questionable junk in my trunk.



We could have a 100% safe society if we choose that route.

As long as we are willing to give up our freedoms for the sake of security.

What I think is most likely the case here is that many people are afraid of flying to begin with so they are willing to sacrifice their rights for an added sense of safety.



Wouldn't you say that LAT has terrorist tendencies?

We have met the enemy and it is us.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:34:47 PM   
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You see no imagery there?

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I have no god


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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:38:58 PM   
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You see no imagery there?

The govt is your GOD.


I have no god



The imagery I see is a padded cell and a straight jacket

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:41:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

You see no imagery there?

The govt is your GOD.


I have no god



The imagery I see is a padded cell and a straight jacket



Thank you.     Come again.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:43:49 PM   
Lucylastic


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The imagery I see is a padded cell and a straight jacket

I wont wear the jacket, but ... Ill bring the stun gun and the taser


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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:49:01 PM   
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The imagery I see is a padded cell and a straight jacket

I wont wear the jacket, but ... Ill bring the stun gun and the taser



Perfect.   This madness ends TOMORROW.

The people will not stand for this.

You have no idea how our rights have been eroded over the last 10 years.

Say hello to the guys monitoring this "wire".
.....they love that baked mode.....  baked... like in a microwave oven- "scanner".

Tomorrow it all ends.......   you watch.

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:50:34 PM   
LaTigresse


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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:53:27 PM   
pahunkboy


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Did you pack your own parachute?


I am not leaving home for the holiday.
There is a loosely organized  "op out"   that day. 

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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:54:42 PM   
LaTigresse


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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 12:57:14 PM   
Lucylastic


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Status: offline 		Hunky, who what now?
are the banks gonna close for 3 days again?
oh hang on they havent yet have they...
what happens tomorrow?
Did Rand Paul tell you that Obamas rise is mirroring the rise of Hitler?? is that it whats got you all hyper??????



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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 1:00:07 PM   
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El Al only has a relative handful of departures each day (they ony operate 35 aircraft after all). United Airlines operates 360 aircraft, Delta has a fleet of 733, American has a fleet of 625. Now add in all the small and regional US carriers.



What matters is cost per passenger. The US also has probably 100 times the security personnel already in place, along with larger security agencies. I'm certainly not talking about adding personnel, I'm talking about making better use of what we have, of which Ben Gurion Airport, El Al, and the relevant  security agencies provide us with good example. Your comparison in terms of absolute size is meaningless and irrelevant.



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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Now imagine -each passenger- (??, Ed.)  going through a 3 hour screening involving questioning and hand bag searches as well as any level of physical screening the security officers feel is warranted. That would bring actual chaos and standstill to US airports.



This is what I called BS on in the earlier post and it's what I call BS on now and will do so every time you attempt to adduce something you've clearly pulled out of your hat as evidence for a groundless and meaningless argument.

quote:

... as well as any level of physical screening the security officers feel is warranted.


For -each- passenger? really? And 3 hours per passenger, each and every one? My oh my ... 



Either provide a creditable citation for that claim or dispense with it. 




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RE: Don't bloody well touch me!!! - 11/23/2010 1:00:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gibbs: Concerns over body scans will be considered - Yahoo! NewsNov 22, 2010 ... A loosely-organized Internet boycott of body scans is under way, .... At least, Op Out of the "cancer-causing" radiation-porn-machines. ...
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101122/ap_on_bi_ge/us_airport_security_25


A loosely-organized Internet boycott of body scans is under way, and Pistole said he hoped people would exercise sound judgment over the busy Thanksgiving holiday. A National Opt-Out Day is scheduled for Wednesday to coincide with the busiest travel day of the year. "Just one or two recalcitrant passengers at an airport is all it takes to cause huge delays


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