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RE: Dog bite... - 12/5/2010 8:50:50 PM   
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I always thought being a responsible adult includes articulating yourself and talking to people before jumping the gun and setting an legal movement in motion that you then can't stop and a simple thing gets blown out of proportion.

Somebody PMed me and told me to sue for compensation, seriously, for a small bite like that? No clue how much I would get but lawyers would get more, and I would think the money would be serious bad karma because it would involve a dog being killed.


And for the record, LOL, the person that told her that was NOT me!

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RE: Dog bite... - 12/6/2010 3:56:51 AM   
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And for the record, LOL, the person that told her that was NOT me!




I didn't mean to imply that it was you! Didn't even think anybody would think it was you!

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RE: Dog bite... - 12/6/2010 4:17:58 AM   
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.....When Ginger met said child in the other house, my parents home, not our room in the house completely seperate from theirs, Ginger seemed very happy to be nice and say hi, with out food being a part of it, she let the child pet her and even tried to kiss her, Ginger being a springer spaniel collie,  Being 3 the child is just the perfect height for Ginger to kiss the child's face.which is why I was so confused that she was so antisocial here in her room, but I figure she felt like it was her turf, and you're a guest in her turf, an she don't feel like being bugged. Ginger typically will growl at either james or I if she feels you're bothering her, You don't e ven have to do much just anything she feels is you bothering her hehehe.    Next time if we have my friend an her child over, we'll  see if we can facilitate getting alongs, an then maybe next time things won't be so tense.


In that case fairly simple, when you visited the child in their house, the dog was not on her home turf, they tend to be a bit territorial. Just for the dog's own safety, it might be an idea to put her through her paces and let the child command her, you the sit, paw, all that, so she is aware that the child is higher up in the pack. The growling and all that is just the dog testing the water, now if the child is perceived as being lower in the pack when on the home ground of the dog, the dog will treat it like a pack member, that includes disciplining it with growls and it could even lead to a nip or a bite.

As for the dog growling at you or your partner, it's seriously not on, if you back off when your own dog growls at you, in dog language you show fear, you're losing your status as a leader. My dog tries it from time to time, she'll go on the armchair and she fully knows she's not allowed on it, so if I tell her to get off, she might give a little growl, which in turn gets her told off, put on her back and then she grovels and whimpers pathetically for 30 minutes while I pointedly ignore her or tell her she's been bad and for the next few hours she's the most well behaved canine you can imagine and will do anything for approval or a pat on the head. As the pack leader, I have the right to pick where I sit and I routinely chase her from her place and sit down for a bit on it, not because I'm a mean bully, but that shows the dog its place. A dog who isn't aware that it's "the lowest in the pack" and doesn't know its place is a bit like a loaded gun. Think of it in terms of military, higher ranking officers can order and punish lower ranking ones, never the other way round so if your dog does something that breaks the chain of command, discipline it or it will think it can command you, if you don't follow the dog orders dog might try to discipline you, that's how most owners get bitten because they forget simple rules like eating before feeding the dog, not letting the dog sit higher than humans. The dogs aren't mean biters, they just try to keep the discipline in the pack and it's the fault of humans to not show them their proper place.

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RE: Dog bite... - 12/7/2010 8:06:09 PM   
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Usually when she growls at either of us, one of us who ever was being growled at will tell her to stop that, Sometimes I smack her lightly for it, but sometimes I swear it feels like it's mean to get after her, after all I know I wouldn't want someone hugging me or kissing me or petting me or otherwise pestering me, when I wanted to be left alone, but then logically, they're not the ones in charge, we should be lol.

When she lived with her mom,  Suzanne, She'd send Ginger to a corner for time out when she'd been bad, And sometimes you'd come home an find her in the corner, with her shame Id id bad face on, and his mom would have to go hunt down what she'd gotten into lol.

Tonight she tore open a bag of trash we forgot to pick up before leaving for 2 or 3 hours,  and when I saw it I did scold her and low and behold she went an sat in a corner, with this guilty ass look on her face like I done bad, I sowwy, I'll sit here an  accept my time in the naughty corner. She's very smart, and so cute when she's trying to get out of some kind of trouble, I remember Daddy was upset with her over something so he was scolding her an she was wagging her tail like look daddy, I am happy to see you, I am cute, my tail wagging appeases you right? and he said bad dog lay down, and she ducked her head tucked her tail between her legs, and did lay down with her sad pout pout face on.

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your dog does something that breaks the chain of command, discipline it


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RE: Dog bite... - 12/7/2010 10:06:20 PM   
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Good handling of the animal LadyC. You think a dobie is interesting, try owning 150+ # of wolf hybrid. They keep ya on your toes.


But, he was a GREAT beast. I just had to be careful who I let into the house. (yes, he lived in the house..looooved AC vents)

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