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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 9:53:04 AM   
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Who even has an attention span any more?

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 9:58:08 AM   
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Anyone on Ritalin.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 9:59:11 AM   
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I agree with this assessment.   I too would not bother to go to a protest.



Why not? If you believe in something, would you be afraid to extend a little effort to show what you believe in?

Peaceful protest is a right most citizens in free countries have, why would I not want to execute a right to show I support or don't support an idea. If I sit at home and do nothing, I kinda lose the right to complain.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:07:19 AM   
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Why not?

Because he prefers whining about it on here like a child. Actual action seems beyond him.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:14:21 AM   
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The right to protest peacefully is something previous generations have fought for. If I can't be arsed to lift my butt from my sofa to protest, I really can't expect that somebody will listen.

If there wouldn't have been protests, there would have been no media attention at all.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:20:49 AM   
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quote:

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I agree with this assessment.   I too would not bother to go to a protest.



Why not? If you believe in something, would you be afraid to extend a little effort to show what you believe in?

Peaceful protest is a right most citizens in free countries have, why would I not want to execute a right to show I support or don't support an idea. If I sit at home and do nothing, I kinda lose the right to complain.


There has to be another way.   For instance one can take free classes online by MIT.  One can refuse to mortgage ones future. Maybe volunteer somewhere just to get the job skills.   

I do protest things in a different way. I hate the banks- so I stack silver.  I am not feeding the beast that way.   I disdain stocks- so -  I do not put cash there.

Voting with ones cash can have amazing results... this issue is not worth getting the ear drums busted out- like they did at the g20.

Also most towns have a library- get in there and read- read read.... there is another way to skin this cat.  Maybe I cant identify it right away- but it exists somewhere.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:23:32 AM   
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I won't get involved in protest, because I know even the most peaceful of protests are policed by pigs who are just waiting to become more than watchers. We are only allowed peaceful protest in this country and even that has laws wrapped around it, so unless something is the tamest thing possible to be no more louder than the squeak of a mouse, it is pointless protesting, for it will not be heard. But, we all know whatever the protest, no matter how peaceful it was intended, it usually gets thwarted by those bent on aggro, almost as if there was someone somewhere who wished to discredit those who felt the need to protest. As soon as aggro kicks off, the piolice seem to lose their ability to discern who is a problem and who is not, they adopt bully boy tactics and with the law behind them, they wade in much to their glee. I cannot be in that situation, for the police incite that red mist and I do not do what others tell me without a very good reason that I can understand and agree with. Simly being told to move, go away or whatever gets my hackles up and I want to know the reason why as I believe is my right. Furthermore, anyone who grabs me out in the street, I don't think, my natural instinct to defend kicks in and there the police being given the reason they need to inflict more damage.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:28:04 AM   
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I am thinking Anerin- there are other ways to check the system.

You I am certain will find them...

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:29:42 AM   
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You can read all the books in a library, you won't get a degree from it, an online course won't make up for a degree from a respected university and I doubt it will help as much in getting a job.

Where is the problem in getting off you butt and peacefully joining others for a march? I always say people should vote with their wallets and their feet, or put their money where their mouth is. In case I feel strongly about something, I will get off my butt and join a protest. I won't sit at home and let others do the work.

Imagine if those students wouldn't have protested, how easy would it be to raise the fees then again, and the year after that again...

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:34:35 AM   
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You presume a degree is the key to a career.   That is not the case much anymore.  I already have my education- so --  it wont effect me much.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:38:24 AM   
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You presume a degree is the key to a career.   That is not the case much anymore.  I already have my education- so --  it wont effect me much.

Oh sweet Jesus, the irony

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:48:05 AM   
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LadyC.


You presume a degree is the key to a career.   That is not the case much anymore.  I already have my education- so --  it wont effect me much.




I indeed presume that a degree helps with most careers where you don't have the words "Would you like fries with that?" programmed into your speech. A few IT geniuses are such fantastic coders that they don't need degrees, there will always be the odd wizzkid out there who will make a career without a degree, but in general a degree is the key to almost every career. Please tell me a few careers where you don't need degrees and tell me how many people have them compared to people with degrees...

You have your education so it doesn't bother you anymore, well a good thing that somebody before you made sure that you could have an education, isn't it? Remember that little poem about people being taken away?

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

So yes, you got your education, so you really shouldn't bother what happens to others...

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:55:08 AM   
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I am thinking Anerin- there are other ways to check the system.

You I am certain will find them...



Oh yes, I know, and I am working towards that now, and with that, if my plans work out, perhaps the taking on of a yob as an assisstant. I say a yob for a reason, because my understanding and experience is those kids that the system fails are often highly gifted, but in areas the schools cannot educate in, the result is they get cast out as a peg that will not be hewn down into a shape that fits a round hole. Soon that cast off gets funnelled into things like crime and the destruction of hope. It is my intention to teach a viable trade by practice not college, as soon I believe when it is everyone and their dog has a degree, it is practical skills that will be required, not bits of paper, and certainly not in the art and craft field I am in.

Has anyone actually considered violence and the propensity to destroy, might actually be frustration at not being recognised. Now, it is also my understanding that many of those who drop out of the system have what are called disorders, new reasons for teachers to fail in what they do, as a disorder solves all, the person gets written off and the prisons in this country are opulated by about 80% of people with known disorders, they have effectively become the new psychiatric hospitals since the hospitals closed and adopted the so called care in the community with the next option, prison.

My cousin left school with no qualifications and even a report saying he was a non conformist, he has since held two successful businesses both grossing a million a year involved with art and education of the misunderstood young, and is now starting another business in another part of the country, and motivating me to get my ass into gear and follow my dreams, besides he knows what I can do, has every confidence in me, and wants my skills, he needs them to enhance his own product and a joint venture at some point, Bdsm furniture using rare hard woods, he a skilled carpenter,wooden boat builder and rigging designer and me an artist blacksmith specialising in recovered iron . He has zero qualifications but is highly educated in life.

Methinks too much emphasis has been put on bits of paper and not enough on practical abilities, it is the natural practical abilities I wish to discover, or provide the enviroment so one can discover their own abilities in the young 'failures' in society and give them the ability to have pride in the work they create with their own hands. Further to that, how to market oneself and make money away from the system.

My goal in life, is to inspire others, I have had a shit deal through life, I wish for others to not go through that, but learn young they are a value, maybe not to society, but to themselves and the living they can make in society.


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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 10:55:20 AM   
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Ok. It is all my fault.

I mismanaged the board of regents- I invested in CDOs and toxic assets.  I squandered the funds of the University system. I gave it all to Goldman Sachs.
/snip

The management is not the least bit interested in what I think.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:06:56 AM   
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Oh, and BTW, when I get my side of the BDSM ironwork up and running, I am going to offer a  bespoke design, creation and fitting service as an experience to the customer and a perk for me 

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:22:45 AM   
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Ok. It is all my fault.

I mismanaged the board of regents- I invested in CDOs and toxic assets.  I squandered the funds of the University system. I gave it all to Goldman Sachs.
/snip

The management is not the least bit interested in what I think.




I wasn't talking about your fault, I was talking that you said you won't protest and that you said - let me just paste and copy so you can't claim you were misquoted:

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LadyC.


You presume a degree is the key to a career. That is not the case much anymore. I already have my education- so -- it wont effect me much.


That is what I addressed, the fact that you said you don't protest and that you don't care enough about others to do anything if it doesn't effect you personally.

What has that got to do with mismanaged funds? That is a pathetic attempt to change the subject because you don't have answers....

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:30:51 AM   
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So then correctly managing the funds is a tripling of the fees?

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:35:06 AM   
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People may have noticed, I do that also, I have just discovered now you Lady C have mentioned that, but regards the protesting,  But I know you were not asking myself, butI have given my reason for not getting involved, the only thing I can do, is the silent protest, the not buying of things, nor voting in a certain way, anything that can be used to screw up the agitator and if I feel the protest has much feeling attached to it, I will even go against my own comfort to make my point.

Myself, I do believe the students can do something more effective, like cutting spending for a while, that tends to send signals to authority, tax not being made. The government cuts education to save money, fine, then pay them back, by cutting spending to similarly save money, do something the government has not calculated for and throw them a googly to think about, with promises of more to come if they don't get their head from up their ass and start working for the people not against them.

People truly have power, it is in their pocket, they choose to spend or not to spend has an effect on them at the top, as they exist to parasite off us, not the other way around.


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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:40:57 AM   
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So then correctly managing the funds is a tripling of the fees?


You are skipping the question and are trying to side track. Why?

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/17/2010 11:47:59 AM   
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I am not going to a University protest.

Period.

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