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London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Sieg... - 12/9/2010 9:05:42 AM

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London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with police ahead of the 12:30 PM ET vote. Protesters in London have Parliament surrounded as the vote nears to raise tuition fees for students. This is a continuation of the protests that have wreaked havoc on Central London for the last few weeks.

RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 9:10:28 AM

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337088/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Thousands-students-descend-Parliament.html

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 9:12:21 AM

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This is a continuation of the protests that have wreaked havoc on Central London for the last few weeks.

What utter cobblers. I live here (near the centre too), and they've done no such thing. A few soap-dodgers and anarchist types looking for a punch-up will find a punch-up.

We're Londoners - generally we just get on with stuff. You can't bomb us into submission, you can't intimidate us, and you certainly can't do more than inconvenience us for a few hours.

Whoever wrote that piece is a fuckwit.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 9:18:16 AM

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Thats right! Youns have cameras!

HA!

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 9:58:13 AM

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Thats right! Youns have cameras!

The Met Police's own spokeswoman has just spoken in support of people's right to protest peacefully (like the peaceful vigil on The Embankment currently going on), while criticising the small number of troublemakers who have been throwing missiles at police (snooker balls, flares and bricks), and vowing that those who do commit acts of unprovoked violence will be dealt with "firmly", and that they will be prosecuted.

It's worth remembering that the area affected thus far is about 150 metres square, i.e. tiny, outside the HoC. Personally, as the legislation has just been passed with a majority of 21, I think it'll probably kick off in a while, and then plod will get stuck in to the small percentage of brick-chucking, masked cowards intent on unprovoked assaults, and for once I'm in favour.

It’s pretty obvious, from looking at the video feed, that there’s a hard core of masked arseholes hell-bent on trouble. I suspect they’re going to get it shortly.

But regardless, compared to the overall smooth running of London as a city, it's a piss-drop in the ocean.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:00:19 AM

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Yes, I don't think it is any larger or any more devastating than our very own teabagger parties.

Under Siege are you? Lord Nelson, you seasick drag queen, where are you now when your country needs you?

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:08:49 AM

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Yes, I don't think it is any larger or any more devastating than our very own teabagger parties.

heh. I'm amazed at the patience of the police. If it was me I'd have started beating holy fuck out of the brick-chucking arseholes ages ago. I presume they're concerned about media pressure, but why they should just stand there as a bunch of Aunt Sallies while missiles are raining down on them is beyond me.

It's worth noting that ALL of the people at the front line, attacking the police, are masked, and that almost none of the mostly peaceful crowd behind them are wearing said masks.

Even the TV news guys have started referring to the troublemakers as "the hard core". And the leader of the NUS has just stated that there are no circumstances under which it is acceptable to use violence to make one's point, most especially against people (the police) who aren't the instigators of said legislation. He's stressing the number of peaceful protests that have taken place today and also totally distancing the NUS from all those prepared to use violence, so fair play to him.

Strange thing is that, when all's said and done, the UK has to have these increases in fees in order to fund universities properly. Since no-one will end up paying more per month, merely for longer, and they won't pay anything until they earn more than a decent salary, my sympathy for the students is very low.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:17:28 AM

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Rap- that is pretty smug of you.

What hope is there for the younger generation?

You have your degree- so you could care less about the youth.

And no the police have not shown restraint. They been ramming horses into the kids. Do you know how injurious that can be? If a horse tramples a person- it is bad. A buddy of mine lost a kidney that way.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:19:41 AM

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Horses are very reticent to trample humans under any circumstance (oh, they will kick you they get the ass at you), in the old days thats how they used to find bodies buried under the snow.

I doubt the kidney pie story at face value. More to it than that.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:30:22 AM

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Horses are very reticent to trample humans under any circumstance (oh, they will kick you they get the ass at you), in the old days thats how they used to find bodies buried under the snow.

I doubt the kidney pie story at face value. More to it than that.

Wouldn't it depend on the horse?

To some extent you have a point.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:39:04 AM

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No, unless the horse is trained to step on people, it is abhorrent to them to step on living things (not just humans) they need much convincing to do it. And it aint easy, you can get them to bump into people and rear up on folks, but not trample without a lot of work

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 10:39:18 AM

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Rap- that is pretty smug of you. Wrong. I'm sick of violent idiots thinking they can do as they please.

What hope is there for the younger generation? Wrong. There's plenty, for many of them. Hopefully none for those who choose violence as a means of making their point.

You have your degree- so you could care less about the youth. Wrong. I fully support people's right to protest, and if you'd actually checked out this issue, instead of just swallowing wholesale what you read on tinfoil hat nutcase sites, you'd know it's much more complex an issue than you're making it.

And no the police have not shown restraint. They been ramming horses into the kids. Do you know how injurious that can be? If a horse tramples a person- it is bad. A buddy of mine lost a kidney that way. Wrong. If they didn't charge police lines and throw missiles then it wouldn't be necessary.

Congrats! You're wrong, on every single count.

You're an idiot. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing you say carries any weight because of it.

I live here, you don’t. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:02:26 AM

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Rap- that is pretty smug of you. Wrong. I'm sick of violent idiots thinking they can do as they please.

What hope is there for the younger generation? Wrong. There's plenty, for many of them. Hopefully none for those who choose violence as a means of making their point.

You have your degree- so you could care less about the youth. Wrong. I fully support people's right to protest, and if you'd actually checked out this issue, instead of just swallowing wholesale what you read on tinfoil hat nutcase sites, you'd know it's much more complex an issue than you're making it.

And no the police have not shown restraint. They been ramming horses into the kids. Do you know how injurious that can be? If a horse tramples a person- it is bad. A buddy of mine lost a kidney that way. Wrong. If they didn't charge police lines and throw missiles then it wouldn't be necessary.

Congrats! You're wrong, on every single count.

You're an idiot. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing you say carries any weight because of it.

I live here, you don’t. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

I also have 2 degrees from colleges... cum laude.

See what college does to a guy?

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:11:26 AM

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I also have 2 degrees from colleges... cum laude.

See what college does to a guy?

To be fair, I don't think we can blame you being an idiot on your education. I doubt you have been any better if you hadn’t gone to college.

I’m watching this live on TV. The restraint being shown by police is incredible. They've been under sustained attack for hours now, and haven't retaliated beyond maintaining their lines.

Protestors (and what an incorrect term that is – “thugs” is more like it) are now smashing windows and vandalising buildings and property in the surrounding area. Who pays for that? Me, and other ordinary citizens like me. There was an official protest site opposite the HoC, on the south side of the Thames, which many peaceful protestors attended, but these thugs decided to break ranks and attempt to destroy property and conduct violence on the north side, adjacent to the HoC.

Students would pay less per month under the proposed (now carried) change in policy, and wouldn't pay anything until they reached a reasonable wage. These idiots are just out for violence, and I for one won’t be sorry when and if they end up finding it.

It's still not "causing havoc", mind. It'll be a few punch-ups through the night, and tomorrow it'll be cleared up and people will just go about their business, same as always.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:20:07 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPbNvIzMf0

This just in from the BBC channel 2.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:22:16 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPbNvIzMf0

This just in from the BBC channel 2.

*chortle*

There are several sites that stream live news feeds, and if you want to see what's going on just google them or message me

ETA: I think this will end up being more like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qHTn_wtQas

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:26:31 AM

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Nah, I am quite convinced it is a tempest in a thames pot, judging by who brought us this breaking news item in the first place.

You know of course that we had Mrs. O'Learys cow who burned down Chicago, you have your own branch of the Sinn Fein, and I believe you once had your own cow story, as well.

Neither of which shall I ever commit the details to memory or ever sleep unsoundly over.

Bring on the dancing sluts, I always say.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:29:13 AM

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Nah, I am quite convinced it is a tempest in a thames pot, judging by who brought us this breaking news item in the first place.

Exactly.

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Bring on the dancing sluts, I always say.

There's never a time when that isn't the correct response

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:30:46 AM

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Well this is what happens when you subsidize anything for people, then you try to take it away. We've seen this in Greece, France, and now England, and these are civilized countries. I will say this though. Tripling the tuition rates overnight was a little bit insane. At least over here, they do it gradually darn near every year.

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RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under ... - 12/9/2010 11:30:59 AM

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I also have 2 degrees from colleges... cum laude.

See what college does to a guy?

To be fair, I don't think we can blame you being an idiot on your education. I doubt you have been any better if you hadn’t gone to college.

I’m watching this live on TV. The restraint being shown by police is incredible. They've been under sustained attack for hours now, and haven't retaliated beyond maintaining their lines.

Protestors (and what an incorrect term that is – “thugs” is more like it) are now smashing windows and vandalising buildings and property in the surrounding area. Who pays for that? Me, and other ordinary citizens like me. There was an official protest site opposite the HoC, on the south side of the Thames, which many peaceful protestors attended, but these thugs decided to break ranks and attempt to destroy property and conduct violence on the north side, adjacent to the HoC.

Students would pay less per month under the proposed (now carried) change in policy, and wouldn't pay anything until they reached a reasonable wage. These idiots are just out for violence, and I for one won’t be sorry when and if they end up finding it.

It's still not "causing havoc", mind. It'll be a few punch-ups through the night, and tomorrow it'll be cleared up and people will just go about their business, same as always.

That depends on what kind of world you want to build.

One where oligarchs rule the day.

Degrees are useless snips of paper.

The main TV is going to be a mouth piece for the status quo.

I don't think you grasp the full meaning of this. This "recovery" is no such thing. It is the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the world.

This is not a recession. It is an 80 year cycle.

Maybe the crown will knight you! HA!

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