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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl I would guess that the majority of people affected by narcissistic personality disorder are republicans. The whole selfish me me me, I will step on anyone to have more, I don't want to pay for anyone else's health care seems to fit quite well. Maybe you need to expand your way of thinking...or try to look at things from a different angle. First let me say I am for the healthcare plan but I can see the other side. I am a very fiscally conservative person... not cheap but responsible. I see our government spending more money than they are taking in. The debt is growing to a point where our economy will soon collapse unless we get a grip on what we can afford as a nation. I am not defending republicans or criticizing democrats…I am just saying we can’t afford healthcare…and Iraq… and Afghanistan…and social security… and welfare…and bailouts…and maintain bases all over the world….and defend Europe…and on and on. We do not have the industry and strong economic base of 30 years ago…we must stop spending and live within our means. If this means not being the worlds defender of democracy so be it. Responsible people of both parties and independents see this nation heading for disaster because of our spending more than our economy can support. Some think the healthcare bill is too expensive and we can’t afford it at this time…I understand their way of thinking don’t you? Butch Regarding the portion I highlighted, I'm kind of curious why you think health care should not be more important. I'm guessing you missed my threads on "Cognitive Dissonance" and "Terror Management" a few months back. In essence, there are two factors which make people value "defense" more than the welfare of their fellow citizens (IMO, of course; I'll let others state bullshit as fact). The first is fear. Man's untimate fear is the fear of death. The second is an inability to assess risk. Combine the two, and we see that many people (primarily on the right) believe that by spending obscene amounts of taxpayer dollars on the military, they can reduce the risk of dying in an invasion by, say, the Chinese or the Russians, and therefore reduce their risk of death. Of course, they are much more likely to die by slipping in the bath than they are in a "tewwowist" attack, and they are more likely to be killed by terrorists than by a Chinese bullet. But rational risk assessment doesn't appear on the radar. Logic would seem to show that more people would live longer by funding smoking cessation programs, and getting non-critical patients out of ERs, than by funding the F-35, but the former aren't as sexy, nor can they be used as propaganda tools to play on peoples fears. Those are my thoughts on the matter.
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