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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 4:36:18 PM   
FukinTroll


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I've lost track now. Which of you is supposed to be having my babies?


Well, it's six of one half a dozen of another... wait... nope, you would be having Trollops with me. Kindly disregard the momentary confusion.

SLURP!


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 4:47:10 PM   
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You have clearly stated that the only substance you have to contribute to a dynamic is strictly self serving, selfish and uncaring.


Well good. Then my work here is done.

Oh, and by the way, there's a world of difference between someone being offended by *words* that were not directed at them and people dying or being systematically slaughtered. It is amusing to me, however, that you don't know that.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 4:51:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
You have clearly stated that the only substance you have to contribute to a dynamic is strictly self serving, selfish and uncaring.


Well good. Then my work here is done.

Oh, and by the way, there's a world of difference between someone being offended by *words* that were not directed at them and people dying or being systematically slaughtered. It is amusing to me, however, that you don't know that.


I pondered for a moment about correcting your ignorance; due the fact that ignorance can be educated. Then I realized that stupid is forever.

Have a nice day.


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:04:15 PM   
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I cant recall the exact term (I am sleep deprived, of late) for the type of person that has absolutely no empathy.. is it sociopath?


It is generally expressed in those terms in laymen's language, yes.

The true picture is somewhat more complex, as sociopaths exhibit more than merely that response, but yes that's the crux of how it's normally phrased.

"Arsehole" also about covers it.



No need to argue, you're both right. I'm also a misogynist and a chauvinist....or so I'm told. Funny thing is, my friends always seem to disagree with those labels. Well, not the asshole one.






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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:04:21 PM   
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The hausboy would like to respond to The Dude.
Now that I've had my fun poking with a stick, I would like to give an actual response to the point he brought up.
And it's timely too.

After going to parties for years by myself, but knowing that I was going to meet my various Dommes/tops there .... and then once I was with my spouse/Domme, we'd go to all the parties together.....I went to my first event by myself two nights ago, solo, as a single male sub.  Completely new experience for me.  It was Femme/Domme party--so all Dommes with male subs, some a part of a couple, some solo like me.

Dude's observations are not dramatically far off.  I'll give the positive first--I saw and met some wonderful, wonderful male subs, who were in the majority. Great Dommes and fantastic subs.   But then, there were just a few (minority) that fit the sordid description that the Dude started this whole tempest-in-a-fishbowl with.  I was amazed--here was a room full of Dommes....and yet those aforementioned subs seemed at a loss. 

They stood, awkwardly staring at the women....waiting....and waiting.    I took the far corner opposite them--any sub will tell you--it's finding that balance between being close enough to attend to any need/request, but far away enough to not be hovering, obtrusive and be generally there but "invisible".  She finishes her diet Coke....remove the empty can, replace it with a fresh one and refill her glass!  She puts her dirty plate down, replace it with a fresh one....or ask her if she'd like anything else...  something drops? pick it up.....she's busy beating the crap out of her sub....so stand far enough away that you're not in the scene, but within eyeshot of her with 2 bottles of water (one for her, one for the boy)  It's not that hard.

The other boys were too busy getting naked and making puppy dog eyes...  but the Head Boy was mopping up water in a back room while I and another boy headed into the kitchen after serving dinner and tackled the dishes together.  And the others looked at us, puzzled.... as if to say: "why are you guys working when there's women in the next room with canes and crops?"

So there's the intent perhaps, of the original post.  I was baffled that there would be subs who were so completely out of touch with why we were there--yes, getting the business end of the cane was part of it--but the whole concept of serving the Dommes seemed completely lost on them.  Even though the "house" guidelines made it clear what the dynamics of the evening were.

so essentially, it left me asking Dude's question.  just not out loud.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:06:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
I pondered for a moment about correcting your ignorance; due the fact that ignorance can be educated. Then I realized that stupid is forever.


Well I'm glad you stopped yourself. Because if you truly think words are the same as murder, you wouldn't be doing much correcting.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:10:16 PM   
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quote:

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I pondered for a moment about correcting your ignorance; due the fact that ignorance can be educated. Then I realized that stupid is forever.


Well I'm glad you stopped yourself. Because if you truly think words are the same as murder, you wouldn't be doing much correcting.


Yet again... ignorance can be educated but stooopid is forever. Perhaps you would be best advised to read my OP in it's entirety.


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:24:55 PM   
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You have painted yourself into a color that is unbecoming. Sure you can delete and start over so you no longer have to own this lackadaisical "red flag" attitude for this community to see, and perhaps actually find what you are looking for. However, the nature of the beast is the nature of the beast. Perpetuating this profile, allowing yourself to be seen amongst your (for lack of a better word) peers, would be a humane action so that anyone, remotely, interested in becoming a part of your life will be well informed of what he/she is getting into. Could anyone feel safe, secure or defended by you? Doubtful, you are for you and you alone. Whatever your dynamic, providing you maintain this account, allows anyone getting involved with you to understand, beyond all doubt, that they are fodder that you can and will throw away, slough off or throw to the wolves if needs be. You have clearly stated that the only substance you have to contribute to a dynamic is strictly self serving, selfish and uncaring.


Why would one delete and start over? Isn't it better to argue what one believes, listen to arguments from other bright people, and then adjust beliefs accordingly? Isn't that how the dialectic process works? The Dude prefers to sin boldly and then admit his faults with perfect piaculative poise when he sees the error of his ways. What would The Confessions of St Augustine be if he'd simply deleted his hot youth and started from the moment of conversion?

Sometimes I do drag the argument out a bit. "Grant me insight but not right now," and all that. But I admit candidly and frankly when I am wrong.

Just to be vividly clear on one point, and a couple of awesome sub dudes and I have discussed this in private already, I agree that an injustice against one should be countered by anybody who notices the injustice. After much hand wringing and head banging I can see the logic in the formal structure of the comparison Peon made between this kind of bollocks and more recognized forms of bigotry.

All the Dude asks at the end of any argument is to come away a little wiser. I'm pretty psyched about how this thread turned out.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:30:03 PM   
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All the Dude asks at the end of any argument is to come away a little wiser.


All the Fugue asks is that you stop making yourself look a prize pilchard.

Other than that, fair play.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:35:35 PM   
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All the Fugue asks is that you stop making yourself look a prize pilchard.


The Dude grows on you, dude. The dude grows on you. :)

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:37:58 PM   
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All the Fugue asks is that you stop making yourself look a prize pilchard.


The Dude grows on you, dude. The dude grows on you. :)

The Dude may seem like less of a twat than he did at first sight, but that doesn't actually stop his syntax from being irritating.

I'm with the Fugue.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:40:02 PM   
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All the Fugue asks is that you stop making yourself look a prize pilchard.


The Dude grows on you, dude. The dude grows on you. :)


I'm afraid the Fugue disagrees with you.

Seriously man, you think you're making yourself look cute. You're not. At least, not to anyone with more than 3 active brain cells.

Think about it, eh? Give it some consideration.

I implore you.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:41:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
I'm with the Fugue.


I'm beginning to believe there may be a god after all!

<thinks>

Oh. You meant you agree with me, right?

<sobs inconsolably>

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:43:19 PM   
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Think about it, eh? Give it some consideration.


I absolutely will.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:45:05 PM   
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I absolutely will.


Good man :)

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 5:49:58 PM   
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<sobs inconsolably>

I know you're inconsolable, but if it's any consolation it wouldn't have worked out. We just weren't meant to be.

:p

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 6:00:19 PM   
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I know you're inconsolable, but if it's any consolation it wouldn't have worked out. We just weren't meant to be.


I know, but I fell in love with the lesbian hair.

I haven't even seen it, but the concept is so great that I couldn't resist.


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 6:22:04 PM   
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All the Fugue asks is that you stop making yourself look a prize pilchard.


The Dude grows on you, dude. The dude grows on you. :)


You speak, I regret to say, with forked tongue.

Irritating children in the UK refer to each other as "dude" mistakenly thinking it's cool. Then they grow up and realise it really is not. And they don't have to grow far before they come to this shaming realisation.

It may - based on the lack of adverse comment in this thread it must - be different in the US. But to me your over-use of this ghastly word is about as irritating as it gets.

So no, I can confidently say you do not grow on me; quite the reverse. It may well be that your posts are wise and helpful - you may, in other contexts, be a really nice person and a valued employee; this may for you be a form of Second Life and thus the only place where you use this vexing expression. But I cannot see beyond this carbuncle of a word to which the eye is, with horrid fascination, inescapably drawn and which thus, for me, obscures all else.

I'd earnestly encourage you to give it up.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 6:28:29 PM   
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I've just noticed you can't be all bad; you play croquet.




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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 2/1/2011 6:30:41 PM   
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I've just noticed you can't be all bad; you play croquet.


It may just be the Rumtopf, but that just got the biggest laugh of the day :)

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