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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 7:24:49 PM   
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.... I dunno...after all this...  I think I'm starting to like "The Dude".... he's got that je ne sais quoi.... 

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 7:25:41 PM   
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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 8:27:40 PM   
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Something just occurred to me.  Stunt and Total might be the same person. 


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 9:15:06 PM   
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Thank you, DC.  I skim the topic for the most part..I wished to keep my vision in good standings.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 9:22:21 PM   
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I said you cannot be offended "for" someone else. I never said you couldn't defend them. You simply cannot be offended "for" them.


Yes, you simply can, Mike. You really, really can. I've explained this to you now so many times.


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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 9:37:41 PM   
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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 9:44:54 PM   
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Simply pointing out a generalization which is totally false. Now if you want to argue over semantics, well feel free.

I love arguing semantics. Let's pick some and go for it.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 10:11:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StuntmanMike

So it seems that understanding is reached through confrontation after all.



Ugh, how patronizing. The OP and yourself are being incredibly obtuse and offensive. This thread may have had something worth discussing but it was originally worded in a deliberately offensive way- it wasn't at all that the OP didn't ask his question in the right code words. It's like telling someone "Hey, nice shoes....did you buy them at a thrift store?" or "Did you ask your color blind brother to select your wardrobe today?" Those are questions. They might even spark a debate on thift store merchandise or color blindness, but chances are the person being queried will be offended. Stop being disingenous about the OP and why what he said was offensive, it really doesn't suit a supposedly mature adult to act like a child.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/30/2011 10:20:28 PM   
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And you asked the dumbest question anyone could ever ask on the forum (which kudos to you, is pretty fucking stupid) and that is why would anyone defend someone that is not their particular demographic.



I agree, this 'why are you offended, it's not you' statement/question/thing is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this forum. Based on some of the things I've seen here that's a hard honor to win. People can defend what is important to them even if they themselves are not what is being attacked. If someone slammed your mother/son/dog/car/neighbor would you not be offended? But you aren't your mother/son/dog/car/neighbor so how can it be that you'd find that offensive? Omg, honestly, you deserve some kind of award for even trying to propose that people cannot be offended for things that they care about.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 2:49:13 AM   
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I agree, this 'why are you offended, it's not you' statement/question/thing is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this forum. Based on some of the things I've seen here that's a hard honor to win. People can defend what is important to them even if they themselves are not what is being attacked. If someone slammed your mother/son/dog/car/neighbor would you not be offended? But you aren't your mother/son/dog/car/neighbor so how can it be that you'd find that offensive? Omg, honestly, you deserve some kind of award for even trying to propose that people cannot be offended for things that they care about.


Nice false comparison, but unless anyone in this thread is the mother/son/dog/car/neighbor of anyone else in this thread, your comparison falls flat. The difference, since I can tell I'm already going to have to spell it out, is that those things -- the mother/son/dog/car/neighbor are directly connected to the person "defending." Here, we're all a bunch of screen names on the internet. And again, the mother/son/dog/car/neighbor bullshit doesn't apply because no one is directly attacking anyone's mother/son/dog/car/neighbor. Therefor, any offense taken is purely at the behest of the one taking it.

I learned a long time ago that someone somewhere will take offense to anything they wish to take offense to. You can't word your statements, questions, comments in a way that will never offend anyone. It's simply not possible. Therefore, this quest for the ultimate in political correct, non-offensive discussion is utter bullshit and derails real discussion.

I always speak my mind. If you take offense to that, that's on you. Not me. 

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 2:54:18 AM   
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Yes, you simply can, Mike. You really, really can. I've explained this to you now so many times.



And if you do. If you "really, really do," then that is on you. Let me explain (one last time):

If we were in a bar, and I walked up to you and said "Hey peon, you're a fucking pussy man. Man up!" Then you'd have every reason, right and justification to feel offended.

If, however, we happened to be in the same bar, and I said to a group of people "Man...the sub guys I've seen are just such pussies." Then any offense taken is solely on YOU."

I can and will say what I want, when I want. If it's directed at you, feel free to take offense. If I'm just speaking in general, then feel free to take offense, but know that is your choice. Because if in scenario 2, you suddenly spoke up with "Hey man, don't fucking call me a pussy!" That'd be a bit out of place. Since I don't know you and wasn't talking to you. I'd probably tell you to stay the fuck out of my conversation and you won't have to worry about being offended. Then I'd tell you to go cry in your beer and mind your own fucking business.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 2:56:24 AM   
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Something just occurred to me.  Stunt and Total might be the same person.  Kinda like the couple that love to rear their heads up once in a while.

Just saying... 


Oh yes, because that makes perfect sense. I made a profile nearly two years ago, then let it sit for two years and made a new one just to start talking to myself. Do you listen to yourself when you make asinine assumptions or do you just talk without any sort of actual thought process? (Don't worry about answering that....it was rhetorical.)

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 3:56:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: StuntmanMike

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Yes, you simply can, Mike. You really, really can. I've explained this to you now so many times.



And if you do. If you "really, really do," then that is on you. Let me explain (one last time):

If we were in a bar, and I walked up to you and said "Hey peon, you're a fucking pussy man. Man up!" Then you'd have every reason, right and justification to feel offended.

If, however, we happened to be in the same bar, and I said to a group of people "Man...the sub guys I've seen are just such pussies." Then any offense taken is solely on YOU."

I can and will say what I want, when I want. If it's directed at you, feel free to take offense. If I'm just speaking in general, then feel free to take offense, but know that is your choice. Because if in scenario 2, you suddenly spoke up with "Hey man, don't fucking call me a pussy!" That'd be a bit out of place. Since I don't know you and wasn't talking to you. I'd probably tell you to stay the fuck out of my conversation and you won't have to worry about being offended. Then I'd tell you to go cry in your beer and mind your own fucking business.



I cant recall the exact term (I am sleep deprived, of late) for the type of person that has absolutely no empathy.. is it sociopath?

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 3:57:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: StuntmanMike

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

Something just occurred to me.  Stunt and Total might be the same person.  Kinda like the couple that love to rear their heads up once in a while.

Just saying... 


Oh yes, because that makes perfect sense. I made a profile nearly two years ago, then let it sit for two years and made a new one just to start talking to myself. Do you listen to yourself when you make asinine assumptions or do you just talk without any sort of actual thought process? (Don't worry about answering that....it was rhetorical.)



wouldnt be the first time some twat has done so... .

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 4:10:43 AM   
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I cant recall the exact term (I am sleep deprived, of late) for the type of person that has absolutely no empathy.. is it sociopath?


It is generally expressed in those terms in laymen's language, yes.

The true picture is somewhat more complex, as sociopaths exhibit more than merely that response, but yes that's the crux of how it's normally phrased.

"Arsehole" also about covers it.

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 4:12:42 AM   
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arsehole works for me too :) as far as terminology goes..

*grin*

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 4:36:50 AM   
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"Why are straight sub dudes such pussies"
There are worse things to be than pussies, unless you secretely prefer cockcs,, than pussies, and hating on pussies is understandable.

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he "Oh honey you lay still while I kiss your chest" types who never want to cause pain or tie anybody up or anything. That's fine for some dudes but I figure those are just women who want a boyfriend who is too wussy to ever walk out on them.
God, you are such easy prey.
More importantly, you wanted an easy way to catch attention, you suceeded.
Congrats!    M

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 4:42:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: StuntmanMike
And if you do. If you "really, really do," then that is on you. Let me explain (one last time):


Jesus on a giraffe . . .

Greedy and RF have it right - what you're in effect saying is that we all are, or *should* be, sociopaths. Most of us, (except for those who perhaps should be safely locked up) not only feel offence for others, we feel the entire gamut of emotions for them. Were that not to be the case, nobody would ever have written a poem or a novel, painted a picture or made a film. People have been feeling for others since long before they saw Romeo and Juliet coming to a horrible tragic death on stage. Human society wouldn't even exist without this empathy, this ability to feel offence - and every other emotion - for others. I honestly think yours is the most deranged theory I've ever read at CM (and it wins that prize against some *really* stiff competition, I can tell you).



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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 4:52:43 AM   
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Greedy and RF have it right


Minor correction, old chap* - I didn't state or imply he was a sociopath.

I implied he was an arsehole. Which is similar, but less interesting, than sociopath ;)

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RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? - 1/31/2011 5:01:35 AM   
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DAMMIT, RF!!  warn me.. I might be having a drink of something, and I dont CARE if it's water. it HURTS spewing through my nose!!

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