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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:17:55 AM

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Very good mnot, you came up with some numbers that are actually relevant to the thread. Very good, for someone of your caliber. Now, can you come up with an argument to go with them, such as teachers should make more than governors? Or that governors shouldnt get paid?

Anything at all?

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Wisconsin Governors salary @ 140K
Wisconsin Legislators salary @ 50K
Wisconsin Teachers salary @ 48K

Well, you are not doing to bad for a nutsucking drooling imbicile, now can you come up with a reason that says that collective bargaining should be destroyed so that goon legislators and goon governors can live the fat lazy millionaire life, you dispicable asswipe?

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:19:15 AM

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Where is Obama? That two faced bitch should be backing the Democratic process, not those desperately clinging to power in spite of the will of the voters.

The stakes are huge for President Barack Obama, who can’t afford to lose Wisconsin in a competitive election, and who may see similar battles unfold in other vital swing states such as Ohio. After carefully measuring his initial response, he told WTMJ-TV’s Charles Benson that Walker’s plan “seems like more of an assault on unions” than just a budget move, and has mobilized his political operation (Organizing for America) in the Wisconsin fight. Not taking sides would have alienated key constituencies. Taking sides has drawn fire from Republicans for intervening in a state issue.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/116475883.html

It will be an interesting election season.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:21:47 AM

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Let the screaming begin!!!!

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:23:51 AM

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Seems to me that he is backing the democratic process. There is a freedom of speech, right to peaceful assembly, and a right to disagree. Seems the only ones that are impeding the democratic process are the nutsuckers.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:27:18 AM

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Yep. The teacher is actually doing something to earn the money for a start, and I don't think there's any examples historically of teachers crashing the stock market or inflating a credit bubble.

Not to mention, I've never heard of a wall street banker confronting gang punks without making poopies in his pannies. Teachers in larger cities do it every damn day.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:29:43 AM

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Yep. Bit of a stressful job by most accounts.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:32:38 AM

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Yep. Bit of a stressful job by most accounts.

It's a bit easier if you're also the wrestling coach. LOL

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:34:49 AM

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That can't hurt, no.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:43:19 AM

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Having done a lot of stuff for the local school when my kids were younger, and helping out on school trips, classroom activities etc etc for fifteen years, I wouldnt be a school teacher for a million bucks a year.
Between the kids, the horrendous parents and the expectations and cuts from school boards ....what a bloody horrible nightmare.
Teaching adults is bad enough but kids with all that baggage, not in my lifetime

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 9:46:12 AM

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Having done a lot of stuff for the local school when my kids were younger, and helping out on school trips, classroom activities etc etc for fifteen years, I wouldnt be a school teacher for a million bucks a year.
Between the kids, the horrendous parents and the expectations and cuts from school boards ....what a bloody horrible nightmare.
Teaching adults is bad enough but kids with all that baggage, not in my lifetime

Teaching at a Uni is sooooooooooooooooo MUCH easier and preferrable.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 10:11:43 AM

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Your babbling incoherence is no better than mnot and rml's nonsensical posts, you and they are only here for comedic relief so near as Im concerned. If I choose to respond to your crazy ranting I dont expect youre capable of getting it, so honestly its not tailored to you.

The feeling is mutual, funny tho how you cannot argue the points I made,you change topic, move goalposts and yet you still respond. trying to upset me
what a failure

Sorry nothing that comes out of sanity is funny.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 10:22:40 AM

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Your babbling incoherence is no better than mnot and rml's nonsensical posts, you and they are only here for comedic relief so near as Im concerned. If I choose to respond to your crazy ranting I dont expect youre capable of getting it, so honestly its not tailored to you.

The feeling is mutual, funny tho how you cannot argue the points I made,you change topic, move goalposts and yet you still respond. trying to upset me
what a failure

Sorry nothing that comes out of sanity is funny.

Actually, when you realize that he SERIOUSLY BELIEVES what he says, it's Hysterical.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 10:37:44 AM

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It's strange how those "if we don't pay the top wages, we won't get the top people" arguments that were being bandied about to justify the banking bail out don't seem to apply to public sector workers. It's often the same people who were making excuses for the plutocrats deserving their bonuses despite wrecking the global economy who are pissing and moaning about low level civil service employees and teachers expecting a decent benefits package to make up for their shitty pay as well. Funny that.

This sounds like something I would post.

How does the mess get fixed?

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 10:39:17 AM

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Honestly, in this case the union goons are playing the part of Hosni Mubarak, growing wealthy at taxpayer expense while blatantly defying the will of the people.

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Yeah- like they are using tazer, sound cannons, scan machines, and airport pats! OOO - the peasants will revolt.

You cant compare that with Wall Street bonuses.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 10:55:11 AM

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I am all in favor of protesting. I am not in favor of an illegal strike and shutting down entire school districts to do it. Those in favor of Scott Walker are planning a protest in Madison tomorrow, on a Saturday when they are not supposed to be at work.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 11:04:20 AM

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That has nothing to do with the numbers you posted mnot. Care to try again?

And talking like a teenager has limited shock value in the sphere of adults, you might want to have someone explain to you what that means.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Very good mnot, you came up with some numbers that are actually relevant to the thread. Very good, for someone of your caliber. Now, can you come up with an argument to go with them, such as teachers should make more than governors? Or that governors shouldnt get paid?

Anything at all?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Wisconsin Governors salary @ 140K
Wisconsin Legislators salary @ 50K
Wisconsin Teachers salary @ 48K

Well, you are not doing to bad for a nutsucking drooling imbicile, now can you come up with a reason that says that collective bargaining should be destroyed so that goon legislators and goon governors can live the fat lazy millionaire life, you dispicable asswipe?

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 11:15:09 AM

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I find it ironic that you don't realize people take public sector jobs for the security and benefits.
It is certainly not for the extravagant salaries.
And when those benefits are cut who do you think will take those low-paying jobs?

I worked a public sector job, as a private contractor, for 7 years. The guys on my crew were paid very well for what they did, and most had only a high school education. As for security, yep, they had that. It took the shop supervisor over 6 months of documentation, warnings, counseling sessions, etc to fire one guy who was completely incompetent, and that happened only after he had been transferred to every shop and no one else would take him.

I see that CD actually saw where I was going with that.

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So your point is you have a really shitty job and apparently don't have the desire to find something better, so you are bitter and angry that others receive more than you?

No, my point was that before the economy tanked, I had a good job that paid well. When the bottom fell out, I had to take what I could get to pay my bills. I am hardly the only one in this circumstance, as you may or may not have noticed. Pretty much everyone is having to tighten their belts right now, and I simply don't think that asking public sector employees to contribute a fairly small amount towards their own health care and retirement is asking too much. What is the alternative, raise taxes on those people who are currently having problems making ends meet?

As for having no desire to find something better, you are quite wrong about that.

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 11:15:41 AM

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Well, let me explain something to you dipshit.

There is no evidence as you have repeatedly asserted, that these teachers are lazy, and getting rich off the state, or are goons, you castigate these people and cast them in the harshest of light, without any regard to the truth. You are intellectually dishonest, they make less than the governor and legislators who are looking to cut their wages, and these same legislators and governor are not requiring the same sacrifice of themselves.

I understand the state is broke, and needs to cut. Fine, hard choices need to be made across this country, at federal and state levels, all the way down to local government.

Do that. There is no cause to punatively restrict their ability to bargain freely, to hold referendums on pay increases above cola.......nor any reason to punitively require them to revote the union every year.

As I said, that will cost more than they are saving.

What is proposed for the non-union goverment employees who are considerably overpaid, have fine health insurance and other enormous bennies?

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 11:16:28 AM

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This sounds like something I would post.

No it doesn't: I didn't mention the NWO, silver, flouride, the global warming conspiracy or the Queen...

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RE: SCOTT WALKER for President - 2/18/2011 11:16:37 AM

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Youre not forced to patronize companies that hand out bonuses you disagree with, but fail to pay your taxes and the almighty government will make life very unpleasant for you.

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You cant compare that with Wall Street bonuses.

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