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jlf1961 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:35:08 PM)

Okay, I have now found a GOOD reason for FEMA internment camps, PUT ALL THE IDIOT BIRTHERS IN THEM!



jack8007 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:35:44 PM)

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the law of the land


that is the current version of INA 301(g).   The terms were different at the time Obama was born, and derivative citizenship vests at birth.

That's a distinction without a difference, because she apparently still had time to transmit (10 years including 5 after age 14) and of course it's all academic because the 14th amendment was in effect.

Citizenship is generally determined by the law of the claiming country, but jurisdiction is usually the more important issue.



jack8007 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:36:47 PM)

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FEMA internment camps


Naw.   Make them a reality show.   Way more profitable.



jlf1961 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:38:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jack8007

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FEMA internment camps


Naw.   Make them a reality show.   Way more profitable.




Okay, we put all the BIRTHERS in FEMA Internment camps, televise it 24/7 and sell ad time to ad companies.



rulemylife -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:40:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I think you meant "Birth Certificate"

And that alone does not settle it for me. That alone, imo, proves citizenship.

NBC may require something more, and I believe it does.


Yeah, I think it requires DNA testing on the remnants of the umbilical cord.

Does Hawaii save those?


Does anybody? That conjures up an image of a rather strange archive...


My mom saved mine.

I have it in a jar in my refrigerator.



jack8007 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:42:08 PM)

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Now truckinslave, get over it and move on. SCOTUS has thrown out every birther case because there is no question.


No! no!  I want to see them keep on banging their heads.   I just don't want to get close enough to be splattered.

This is an essential part of the Teabagger identity ritual - futile dumbassery.   I would not deny them any part of their cultural identity.   These people are essential to human progress, because they are beacons along the edges of insanity, warning the rest of us where we should avoid.



Lucylastic -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 2:48:11 PM)

Have to say they have provided me with no end of hilarity today, bless their liddle cotton socks



SorceressJ -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 3:13:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ

Politics SUCK. [:'(]

Just sayin'.

Thank you, we now return you to your regularly scheduled pointless shitslinging match.
*cues discordant music..*


Then you might want to consider not reading the posts or posting here.

Just sayin'.



I don't, usually, but I will if and when I please. Now perhaps, and then maybe not again for another few months because I am not generally a fan of such mindless self-torture; who knows?
You, on the other hand rule, might want to consider that endlessly repetitive shitslinging knowitalls with condescending attitudes never make the least bit of difference in anyone's minds or meager existences but their own.
Politics really DO suck, you know.
Just sayin'. [:D]

EDITED to make this idealistic point that no one will listen to: "In truth there is no tyranny - except in your imagination." - Neale Donald Walsch



jlf1961 -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 3:26:57 PM)

I still have a hard time understanding what the fuck the question is. Look at the facts.

Fact: President Obama was born in Hawaii, the state has verified the birth certificate and there is a birth notice in the Honolulu newspaper records stating the Hospital he was born in.

Fact: Obama had to provide proof he was eligible to run for the office when he filed to run.

Fact: President Obama has provided his birth certificate on his website during the campaign and the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii verified the fucking Birth Certificate.

And before some one claims a Certificate of Live Birth is not the same thing, that is exactly what I have and I was born in Arizona!



pogo4pres -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 3:31:29 PM)

FR

I have passed along this personal story more times than I like to count, I'll do so ONE MORE TIME, in July 2007 my NJ drivers license expired, and in order to renew it I had to produce my "birth certificate".  Now I went in to DMV with my original hospital issued certificate complete with mom & dad's thumbprints and my itty bitty teeny weeny footie prints.  I was informed this was no longer a "valid" legal document, even though it got my ass into the US Air Force in Dec 1976.  So I went with out driving for a few months.

Along came the new year (2008) and I decided to go over to the "state building" at Broad & Spring Garden streets, in Philadelphia, and apply for my "official" state issued birth certificate.  I filled out the paper work fully expecting to pay the 18 dollars for an expedited application.  I lucked out when the woman that was waiting on me & my wife heard that I had been military.  I ended up getting it done for FREE, and got it in the mail two days later, so now armed with the "valid" legal document I was able to renew my NJ Drivers license.

The Certificate I got as tazzy pointed out earlier looks very similar to what is posted on Factcheck.org, for President Obama.  Also it has an issue date of Jan 2008, which is approximately 49 years 11 months AFTER my BIRTH.  SO to all you fucking birth-tards, please please keep this stupidity up, it most definitely will cost you dopes the 2012 presidential election.  Oh and what are you morons gonna do when all the state laws, that are being proposed for proof of eligibility, are thrown out as UNCONSTITUTIONAL?  Going to resort to your "second amendment remedies"??  Sure go for it, and when the US military is called upon to put down your little armed insurrection please ignore the laughter from me as you get your ass shot off.  I most eagerly await the use of artillery (specifically 105mm) on an insurrection, the smell of pants being soiled should provide a few laughs as well. 



Constitutionally,
Some Knucklehead in NJ


P.S.  Think the military WON'T FIRE on their fellow citizens??? Guess the fuck what, that question was answered on 4 May 1970



ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 5:58:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

What will you people have to whine about if the Kenyan proves that he has a hawaian birth certificate?


He already has, and the ignorant morons still whine. You can't reason with lunatics.



tazzygirl -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 6:53:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I wonder how they got to Evans


Why would you assume they "got" to him?



Brain -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 8:41:07 PM)

What a waste of time this is. What are the Republicans going to pass a jobs bill in the House? Never mind, the answer is never.



rulemylife -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 8:53:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ

I don't, usually, but I will if and when I please. Now perhaps, and then maybe not again for another few months because I am not generally a fan of such mindless self-torture; who knows?
You, on the other hand rule, might want to consider that endlessly repetitive shitslinging knowitalls with condescending attitudes never make the least bit of difference in anyone's minds or meager existences but their own.
Politics really DO suck, you know.
Just sayin'. [:D]

EDITED to make this idealistic point that no one will listen to: "In truth there is no tyranny - except in your imagination." - Neale Donald Walsch



Come back when you have a tangible issue to discuss other than adolescent whining about the realities of politics.

Just sayin'. [:D]

God, I love these smiley faces because you can say anything and make it all better with them.




TheHeretic -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 8:59:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Birthers are idiots.

Including the original birthers...liberals who challenged McCain's eligibiltiy in 2000 and again in 2008 several months before the anyone challenged Obama's? Note also that the first person to legally challenge Obama's eligibility was a long-time Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter.


Yeah, Jim, they are idiots, too. It's a bullshit ploy that makes the practitioners look five different kinds of stupid.

If you think coming at me with "but what about the liberals that did it first," is a good strategy, your contact level with reality could use a tune-up.



TheHeretic -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 9:20:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain

What a waste of time this is. What are the Republicans going to pass a jobs bill in the House? Never mind, the answer is never.



You have no understanding of conservative philosophy at all, do you Brian? At least beyond the bigotry you spout? The way for the government to help people get back to work is to get the fuck out of the way of the people who do productive, sustainable things in the private sector.




tazzygirl -> RE: Birther News (3/8/2011 9:22:45 PM)

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Come back when you have a tangible issue to discuss other than adolescent whining about the realities of politics.


she.. it... wont be back here for a while. she is too busy bragging about her performance here, and calling herself a "retard" on another thread. [8|]



Moonhead -> RE: Birther News (3/9/2011 4:55:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I think you meant "Birth Certificate"

And that alone does not settle it for me. That alone, imo, proves citizenship.

NBC may require something more, and I believe it does.


Yeah, I think it requires DNA testing on the remnants of the umbilical cord.

Does Hawaii save those?


Does anybody? That conjures up an image of a rather strange archive...


My mom saved mine.

I have it in a jar in my refrigerator.


People save their kids' cauls as well.
It was just that rml's post had me thinking of some huge vault full of filed afterbirth. A government depository of that, not just somebody who has something their parents saved in a jar next to the papers from the day they were born...



truckinslave -> RE: Birther News (3/9/2011 6:33:36 AM)

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Not cloned. NATURAL.


Yeah, genius. That's what the Founding fathers meant by "natural born citizen". They meant "a citizen who is not a clone".
I used to think you were joking with some of this, but now I'm not too sure....



truckinslave -> RE: Birther News (3/9/2011 6:38:34 AM)

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SCOTUS has thrown out every birther case because there is no question.


That's not even uninformed speculation.
SCOTUS does not issue statements re granting/not granting cert.
Every case brought to SCOTUS has been a direct appeal of denial of standing.
No Court has heard, seen, touched, smelled, felt, or admitted the first piece of evidence.
There is no way of knowing whether or not there is a question.
We know only that SCOTUS has not granted cert to the appeals of those denied standing.



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