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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Birthers are idiots.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Because no other President ever had such a dark complexion would be my guess.
(God only knows what they'd whining about if Hilary had got the nomination...)

Actually, the only reason Obama is going through this is because he is a Democrat.  The people on the right side of the aisle are simply using any means available to try to discredit him, and this is one of the things they have latched onto to try to achieve their goal.  If Obama was a Republican president you would not be hearing anything at all from these people.  It wasn't too long ago that a lot of right-wingers were actually wanting to change the laws so that Arnold could run for president weren't they?  It seems that the sanctity of being a "natural born citizen" is only important to them when it suits their needs.

Bullshit. Demoncraps challenged McCain's eligibilty in 2000, and again in 2008 several months before the first person challenged Obama's eligibility...and that person was a long-time Democrat! Your ignorance at best, hypocrisy at worst is showing!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Then show me Reagan's birth certificate.

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Do you want your birth certificate available to everyone?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Full disclosure? Do you want your birth certificate available to everyone? If he makes his available to each state, that should be sufficient.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Full disclosure? Do you want your birth certificate available to everyone? If he makes his available to each state, that should be sufficient.

Tax returns must be disclosed, whats your problem with BCs.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I have come to the conclusion, after several months, that if Obama's birth certificate should somehow grow legs, don a strapon and fuck truckinslave in the ass, he would still deny its existence.

You can be a citizen in 2 ways. You are born that way or you are not. (souonds pretty basic but there are folks that don't believe it)

If you are not born a citizen, you must be naturalized. i.e. take an oath.

If you are 1: Born on US soil, you are a citizen. (thus the problem with 'anchor babies')>

or 2: One or both of your parents is a citizen, you are a citizen. this is why John McCain is an American citizen even though he was born on Panamanian soil. OK, the hospital was
on Panamanian soil. To birth a baby in the dirt is downright dangerous.


I'm curious to know if a clone would be eligible as that is not "natural born"? (It's illegal and also unethical IMO but it's just a matter of time)

Also, to nitpick, would a person born via C section, as that is not 'natural birth', be eligible?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Full disclosure? Do you want your birth certificate available to everyone? If he makes his available to each state, that should be sufficient.

Tax returns are disclosed, whats your problem with BCs.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I don't find that section of the Constitution that gives them the explicit authority to do that.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Birthers are idiots.

I love it when you say things like this!!!!

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

The entire .net website you linked is based on a faulty premise:

"Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth,"

There is no legal evidence to support the notion that "natural-born citizen" and "citizen at birth" share the same legal definition.

Under this notion, and current legal interpretation, a baby born of Chinese parents 15' north of the Rio Grande and subsequently taken back across the river to Mexico, thence to be raised in Hong Kong, would be eligible for POTUS even though he had spent exactly 2 minutes 37 seconds in the United States...

The Founding Fathers had something different than the above in mind; quite frankly only a fool could imagine otherwise.

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Your lot are pretty bloody pathetic at finding a scrap of alternate "evidence"

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Under this theory literally no POTUS candidate since the last one to run under the founding of the nation exception was actually qualified.