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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:47:18 PM   
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To clarify your poor reading comprehension they are not speaking of food stamp benefits. They are speaking about a separate cash benefit.

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Ron,

Your trying to explain things to wilbur.

For most merchants the same company that processes their cc/debit transactions process the ebt transactions as well.  none of it is free.



To correct your ignorance: "Wisconsin EBT replaces food stamp coupons with a plastic card called the Wisconsin QUEST card."

To educate you on EBT processing costs: Free terminals are available from the State and the processing cost is $.10 per transaction.
That is far less than the people time involved in paper stamps.

To correct your English, teacher, it is "You're trying" not "Your trying".

Now go on strike and give the poor kids in Florida a chance to get educated by someone with a brain.



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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:49:32 PM   
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Oh, the paperless society, some guy walks in and buys a stick of gum at a conveienience store, lets say .89C  throws it on the debit card   .50C flat debit transaction and .10C monthly less than average transaction fee.  .60C and sold for .89C and the gum prolly was .42C cost from the wholesaler and .........that's entertainment. 

Show of hands, how many stop at dunkin donuts and get a coffee on the debit/credit card--every fucking morning?  

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:53:49 PM   
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To clarify your poor reading comprehension they are not speaking of food stamp benefits. They are speaking about a separate cash benefit.

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Ron,

Your trying to explain things to wilbur.

For most merchants the same company that processes their cc/debit transactions process the ebt transactions as well.  none of it is free.



To correct your ignorance: "Wisconsin EBT replaces food stamp coupons with a plastic card called the Wisconsin QUEST card."

To educate you on EBT processing costs: Free terminals are available from the State and the processing cost is $.10 per transaction.
That is far less than the people time involved in paper stamps.

To correct your English, teacher, it is "You're trying" not "Your trying".

Now go on strike and give the poor kids in Florida a chance to get educated by someone with a brain.




What a tour de force of business acumen.  I woulda almost believed you until I glanced at a map and found that Wisconsin and Minnesota are two different states, and the bill is in Minnesota, and I live really near the area where we are talking about, as you breakfast on the beach.  Hint:  states rights, federal government, you decide.

Other than that, you fuckin near had me sold. As it is, I will have to give this one 10 out of 10 on a wilbur epic failure scale, but not to worry, there will be extra points if I catch you having something germain to contribute at some point, about anything. 

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:54:33 PM   
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I read it to mean cash benefits - not food stamps. 

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:55:23 PM   
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pocket money, walking around cash....you know.......

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:57:23 PM   
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Right.   Food  stamps in PA were never allowed to take cash out of it.  

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 6:59:50 PM   
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right, and duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. 

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:02:29 PM   
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Cash - assistance for the most part does not exist in PA.   Something like a 3 month limit on it-  $195 a month-  blah blah blah....

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:06:19 PM   
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I am feeling generous wilbur so I am gonna help you out.  I'm gonna highlight some things for you.

Electronic
1.11benefit transfer (EBT) debit cardholders in the general assistance program and the
1.12Minnesota supplemental aid program under chapter 256D and programs under chapter
1.13256J are prohibited from withdrawing cash from an automatic teller machine or receiving
1.14cash from vendors with the EBT debit card. The EBT debit card may only be used as a
1.15debit card.
1.16(b) Beginning July 1, 2011, cash benefits for programs listed under paragraph (a)
1.17must be issued on a separate EBT card with the head of household's name printed on the
1.18card. The card must also state that "It is unlawful to use this card to purchase tobacco
1.19products or alcoholic beverages." This card must be issued within 30 calendar days of
1.20an eligibility determination. During the initial 30 calendar days of eligibility, a recipient
1.21may have cash benefits issued on an EBT card without the recipient's name printed on the
1.22card. This card may be the same card on which food support is issued and does not need
1.23to meet the requirements of this section.

You do see plainly where they are speaking of the "cash benefit " program and that you may receive your "cash benefit" on the same card you receive your "food stamp" benefit.

I know that's hard for you to follow but try and keep up.  You should try and absorb what you read rather than hurling insults to hide your comprehension problems.

I know you don't understand this but most states have these programs run by financial institutions.  JP Morgan is one of the big ones involved.  The states deposit the money and JP takes care of the rest, for a fee of course.  They also collect the transaction fee from the merchant.

If you go into a small store and they have separate terminals for the EBT and their cc/debit transactions the EBT is directly tied into the "state system" (actually tied into the financial institution running the program).  Larger merchants do not generally do this.  They just let the company who handles their merchant account process all transactions.  Easier on them and their customers than two separate systems.

Do you need smaller words?



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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:06:22 PM   
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so, if I read the bill, they cannot go buy shit at the grocery store at the level of 50 bucks lets say and give you a hundred in ebt or food stamps and get 50 back in cash.

Although, there is a need for cash for incendentals, they just aint gonna be letting you cash out to go to CVS and get your meth cooking supplies or the muni and get your drunk on.

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:11:35 PM   
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What does $20 buy?    For the whole month....

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:12:49 PM   
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fl, further...

and I am not gonna quote you, but I got a reciept printer, i GOT A FUCKIN label printer, i GOT A COMPUTER, I got pawn tickets, my fuckin desk is full, i NEED an extra line, an extra swiper an extra bunch of payments for paper and ink for the terminal, and fuck around with that and a bunch of extra reason to do this, for NO COST to me?  
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Re explain the laffer curve to me wilbur, you don't understand the no cost so well thingie as it affects a small business man  (which you aint) you work for a wage, as  a bookkeeper to itinerant insurance peddlers.

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:15:48 PM   
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What does $20 buy?    For the whole month....


Your as lost as you were posting this.

There is nothing in the law to prevent me going down to the 7-11 and spending 20 bucks for diapers from my cash card and getting 20 dollars cash, as long as there is money on the cash card.

so, thats enough booze and cigarettes for one day, we dont have to pay for meth too right?

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:16:00 PM   
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PA,

It's the same here.  The cash benefit is like $200 a month and is for a period somewhere between 3 and 6 months.  There is a limit to twice in a lifetime to collect.  It also comes with a lot of strings.  You must be registered with the state employment office,  taking the skills classes, and meeting with the counselors. 

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:25:41 PM   
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Are you capable of following a thread for even 3 posts?

The law that Hunk' s sources, as usual, misinterpret is addressing a $20 monthly limitation on cash. It applies to the FOOD STAMP portion of the benefits, not CASH assistance benefits.

Spend less time here and more time on actually learning how to think.

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:28:34 PM   
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Ron.

I wish we were a cash business but since we do 95% of our sales over the internet we've got to take the plastic.

I guess Wilbur believes they give you a free phone line with the machine and old JP Morgan doesn't charge the state to handle the accounts.

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:29:55 PM   
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PA,

It's the same here.  The cash benefit is like $200 a month and is for a period somewhere between 3 and 6 months.  There is a limit to twice in a lifetime to collect.  It also comes with a lot of strings.  You must be registered with the state employment office,  taking the skills classes, and meeting with the counselors. 



Yup.   Strings.  Then a auditor will knock on neighbors doors and ask if you own a boat, or are working, or own any other vehicles.   Then have the nerve to come to YOUR door and ask how do you live on $195 a month!
...oh- and put a lien on your stuff too.

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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:31:03 PM   
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Make the deadbeats sell on organ!


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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:43:54 PM   
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Another fine example of how that political party, and that one alone (so their voters think, explaining thus how they pray so incessantly at the alter of prey, begging for a few drops thus, howling to the world afterward for being shortchanged, being thence instructed to blame it on those not even allowed into the bloodchurch in the first place) stands as against a tsunami of leftist liberalismus to keep government "off our backs."

But you can't go too easy on the food stamp recipients, assuming that's the point here, if they can't figure out how the game works.

If a particular sector of society incurring a cost to taxpayers of, say, $2.8 billion (in a country of 310 billion) as result of quite intentional economic policies set not at all by their own doing, which have been imposed  on every administration in the last 30 years (as requisite not only for election, but for not being shot at too much as part of doing much of anything that people actually elected them to do), then multi-trillion dollar wars and multi-trillion dollars of bail-out tax money flooding to a few in this country ( just to be held, point of fact; the spending having anything of economic value being done years ago) out of the country, with not a peep from the sheep that elected such as would "protect" them from "enemies," ( fgukg that the a select few corporations write what laws to their liking, just as us idiots elect "who we want";  but how powerful we are!, we can complain to the editorial department or forums that we are disappointed that our elected officials did not do what we elected them to do , when in fact we are too stupid to understand the reality (you still believe what you read, whatever the consequences to others, don't tell me otherwise), such reality being that whatever we elect anybody to do, ultimate manifest is an ass-raped impetus as basis for 90%, at minimum, of any law we see on the books, or any "foreign policy" the ass-wipe media deludes themselves into thinking they have a clue as to understanding, as instructed to propagate nevertheless in all cases.


Everybody is so worried about their dignity here, and shallow and moot ideology or purposed "other knowledge" is all they have left.





OTOH, if these stupid poor people could get it together to raise enough money as to obtain the lobby that would enable them to find some canard (easily fulfilled, congressmen are cheap, never any change there) as to obtain mult-trillions in tax money, as the banks and armaments companies have famously succeeded in doing, then we'd have another flock of miserable "I can't get what all the adds tell me I deserve, who can I blame it on?" and they would be the beneficiaries.

The "I can't get everything all the adverts tell me I'm entitled to for watching a sports show, who can I blame it on?" situation will be with us for always and forever.











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RE: War On The Poor: Minnesota Republicans Want To Bust... - 3/18/2011 7:48:42 PM   
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I guess you really do need smaller words.

You seem to be the only one who doesn't understand they are speaking about the cash benefit.

Let me help you a little more.

EBT debit cardholders in
2.13programs under subdivision 1 are prohibited from using the EBT debit card at vendors
2.14located outside of Minnesota. This subdivision does not apply to the food portion.

you can not use your "cash benefit" outside of the state, but you may use the "food benefit".

Liquor stores, tobacco stores, gambling establishments, and tattoo parlors must
4.28negotiate with their third-party processors to block EBT cash transactions at their places
4.29of business and withdrawals of cash at automatic teller machines located in their places of
4.30business.

The third party processors which you claimed earlier didn't exist.  Here's another hint that they are speaking of two different benefits.  Your food stamps card won't work in an atm as there is no "cash" in that account. 

Just admit you are clueless and run along.

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