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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:26:30 PM

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So you were just taking an opportunity to fling around the race card. Got it

No flinging about it.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

It would be sad if it was not so hilarious.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:31:17 PM

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So you were just taking an opportunity to fling around the race card. Got it

No flinging about it.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

It would be sad if it was not so hilarious.

I see. So you think that objections to affirmative action started in 2008. I guess you lived in a cave before then.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:36:21 PM

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What "whole thing"? It was asked if he won just because he was black, of course the question was about race. And the answer therefore has to be about race, and it is the correct answer. A white man with his paucity of experience would have had zero chance of winning the nomination. If you think otherwise then youre simply denying reality. Ask Geraldine Ferraro.

I think that pretty much says it all.

But at least you admit it, unlike so many who pretend his race is not why they are so opposed to him.

Will you learn to read? I oppose him because he's a fucking idiot. I wouldnt care if hes white, green or orange.

So let me get this straight, you go on a lengthy rant about how he was elected because he was black and then claim your opposition to him has nothing to do with that?

Forgive him,he's an American.Which of course doesn't preclude him from being an idiot or mentally unsound

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:40:03 PM

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NO.

Everywhere has racist or bigoted people. America is no better or no worse than anywhere else and to judge the US by the posts of a handfull of people on here is wrong.

I think I agree with him, though, I'm still wondering, if he meant to say, yes, but not espcially so, in relation to any other country. M

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:40:50 PM

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So you were just taking an opportunity to fling around the race card. Got it

No flinging about it.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

It would be sad if it was not so hilarious.

I see. So you think that objections to affirmative action started in 2008. I guess you lived in a cave before then.

What the fuck does affirmative action action have to do with this?

You think Obama was elected to fill a quota system?

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/24/2011 11:43:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So you were just taking an opportunity to fling around the race card. Got it

No flinging about it.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

It would be sad if it was not so hilarious.

I see. So you think that objections to affirmative action started in 2008. I guess you lived in a cave before then.

What the fuck does affirmative action action have to do with this?

You think Obama was elected to fill a quota system?

Do you even remember what you wrote and quoted?

I'll help you.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 12:09:00 AM

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I am discriminated against. I am not a model, so I don't get my money for noting and my chicks for free.

Poor me. The downtroden. The hopeless. Please help me. I deserve billions for my part in wrecking the economy too, that is not coughing up with a bunch of money. BUT I COULDN'T, because of discrimination ! Dammit.

Vote for me and I'll set you free, rap on brother, rap on.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 12:14:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So you were just taking an opportunity to fling around the race card. Got it

No flinging about it.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

It would be sad if it was not so hilarious.

I see. So you think that objections to affirmative action started in 2008. I guess you lived in a cave before then.

What the fuck does affirmative action action have to do with this?

You think Obama was elected to fill a quota system?

Do you even remember what you wrote and quoted?

I'll help you.

We have a black guy in the white house and suddenly we have all the Rush Limbaugh types deciding they are the ones being discriminated against.

I'm pretty sure I can remember it since it is in the same post, but thank you for the BIG BOLD TYPE.

Now what's your point?

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 12:45:28 AM

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No, the US is not a racist country, but it was in the past, which makes it a strongly racialized country today.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 3:06:54 AM

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First of all, this is not sarcasm, but an honest question.

But can anyone explain to me how having "a major fixation on race", being "racialized", or despising other countries because of poverty that occurs along racial lines, is different than racism?

pam

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 3:30:59 AM

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Racism to me is discrimination based on race.

Racialization is hyperawareness of race.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 3:43:12 AM

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NO.

Everywhere has racist or bigoted people. America is no better or no worse than anywhere else and to judge the US by the posts of a handfull of people on here is wrong.
I think I agree with him, though, I'm still wondering, if he meant to say, yes, but not espcially so, in relation to any other country. M

Sexyboss, I said no because I meant no. I dont see the US as racist as a whole. Certainly parts of the US I have seen are no better (or worse) than parts of the UK I have lived in.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 3:48:39 AM

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Racism to me is discrimination based on race.

Racialization is hyperawareness of race.

i know. What i don't understand is what purpose "hyperawareness of race" could possibly serve, if not discrimination. People are most aware of what really matters to them. People notice the things that they believe make a difference. What practical difference does race make, most of the time? None, right? Well then, why notice it? Why pay it such exaggerated attention? Isn't it because to many people in the U.S. (whether or not they admit it) race really *does* still matter. i believe racism never really went away, it just went into hiding.

To me it seems paradoxical to say: Yes, the country is hyperaware of race. But it's really just a harmless obsession. If we are hyperaware of race there is a reason. And that reason is... latent racism.

pam

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 4:02:57 AM

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Racialization is hyperawareness of race.

This would be perfect (hyperawareness, in a vacum), if it were just some type of post traumatic thing, that would simply go away with good counseling, never to be experienced again.

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Sexybossy, I said no because I meant no. I dont see the US as racist as a whole. Certainly parts of the US I have seen are no better (or worse) than parts of the UK I have lived in.

I want to agree with you, but the only way I could, would have been to have stayed completely out of this thread. To be fair, I have not been all over the US, and cannot say, what it's like as a whole.
My experiences with people not wearing white sheets notwithstanding, the 400% increase in death threats to this president, is making me a little paranoid if you will. M

E.T.A. This is still the best country in the world, and still not more racist than most others.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:09:05 AM

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No links to studies no nothing, quite simply, is America a racist country, I leave you the common man or woman to decide ?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:10:03 AM

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i know. What i don't understand is what purpose "hyperawareness of race" could possibly serve, if not discrimination. People are most aware of what really matters to them. People notice the things that they believe make a difference. What practical difference does race make, most of the time? None, right? Well then, why notice it? Why pay it such exaggerated attention? Isn't it because to many people in the U.S. (whether or not they admit it) race really *does* still matter. i believe racism never really went away, it just went into hiding.

To me it seems paradoxical to say: Yes, the country is hyperaware of race. But it's really just a harmless obsession. If we are hyperaware of race there is a reason. And that reason is... latent racism.

I think a lot of it has to do with identity and culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

To me, racism is looking at your black co-worker, who graduated from the same school you did, etc. as inferior because of his skin color. The issue in the US I see as cultural...when we have concepts like "acting black" and "acting white" it shows racialization, not simple prejudice.

I think we'll always notice race...saying "John is the black guy" to point him out in a crowd is just as intuitive as saying "Jenny is the redhead."

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:16:01 AM

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I'm so sick of liberals trying to claim this is a racist country, so traditional conservatives will continue to bend over backwards to make minorities happy. If you want to know the truth, more people have been discriminated for being fat, stupid, and ugly than have ever been discrminated against for their skin color or ethnic origin. You want to talk about real racism, that's when someone gets hired or promoted based on their race, and right now affirmative action is still on the side of minorities. We also just had an election where 95% of blacks voted for a white washed black man. Even Colin Powell turned on his own party, and the party of Martin luther King to support his own race. Now that's true racism.

Exhibit one. I contend that he is in the majority of this country. The thought process that is inherently racist.

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:23:59 AM

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I think a lot of it has to do with identity and culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

To me, racism is looking at your black co-worker, who graduated from the same school you did, etc. as inferior because of his skin color.

I don't disagree, though it's difficult to have graduated from the same school oftentimes. I'll agree on similar credentials, and skill sets.

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The issue in the US I see as cultural...when we have concepts like "acting black" and "acting white" it shows racialization, not simple prejudice.

Acting black is a perception. We all have parents, and our own experiences differ in how we behave. If you mean acting ignorant=black/undereducated=acting trailer trash=undereducated/white, we would still not see color as the issue, but socioeconomic status to be the issue.

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I think we'll always notice race...saying "John is the black guy" to point him out in a crowd is just as intuitive as saying "Jenny is the redhead."

Nothing wrong with noticing pigmentation, and characteristics of a group. Seing black, chinese, or latino isn't problematic. What is problematic, is this group is less human than people who look like me. Someone calling me black is kool. Someone saying I hate, but stopping at r...ap because I walk out of the room, suggests association where none exists. Rap artists (with a positive or negative message), some country musicians, poor undereducated people (all over), are all simply people. No racism in that. M

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:25:39 AM

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Agreed :)

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RE: Is America a racist country ? - 3/25/2011 5:28:13 AM

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Does a bear shit in the woods?

No.

They have porta-potties.

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