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Aneirin…you dog…you just love poking a stick in the bee hive don’t you...admit it.
Butch
Funny, someone else said that recently, but then as you might be aware if anything is contentious, then i believe it needs to aired or else it will just fester under the surface and poison the future.
anything that gets to core matters imo is good stuff man!
people need to study what was not taught and for the most part still is not taught in the schools. all they get is "winners history" which is invariably propaganda side of issues.
Fortunately google has taken many books and complete law libraries and scanned them in. Harvard, yale and princeton are treasure troves to say the least.
It is true, he's taking the indirect approach here to some extent to argue a point about foreign policy, but I'm not certain how effective this approach is, when it really isn't that complicated - as this poster noted:
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Why oh why do some of you care whether the USA is loved or not? Look, everybody and their freaking uncle still want to come here. When people here start bailing on America, which could happen if this ding dong gets four more years, then really worry. Where else can we go? MARS?
I feel safe in guessing that the poster is a conservative and supports conservative policy which are many of the very policies that elicit criticism, and create condition in those foreign countries that make people want to get out of them, and people here, want to get out of here.
What makes people want to come here are two things: constitutional guarantees and economic opportunity - if they had these things in their country, I'm guessing most of them would stay put - i.e., Mexicans for example - why go through all the trouble of smuggling yourself across the border, at considerable expense and risk, to take a shit job, far from your home and family, among people who hate, abuse and take unfair advantage of you? The answer is simply, it must still be a better option than whatever opportunities they have at home.
Conservative foreign policy hasn't changed that much since Yalta: prop up any local dictator that will play ball and allow the multinationals to take whatever they want, minus kickbacks to the local oligarchy/military junta, etc., the puppet regimes the CIA has set up, and US policy has been propping up, all over the globe, for the last half century.
Naturally, this leads to a lot of misery and bad feelings - we aren't promoting democracy on a global scale, we're obstructing it wherever it rears it's ugly head, because it creates headaches for corporate multinationals who ant to strip these countries of their primitive capital and maximize their profit margins.
Neo-liberals, the Wold Bank, etc., are just as bad, they undermine developing economies in the guise of promoting them, and the end result is the same, a small, affluent (heavily bribed) demographic at the top, general misery below, feudalism basically, see Argentina.
Thus, the love hate/thing, they haven't been able to pull it off here, yet, and globally, NGO's and the like have been getting excellent results with things like microloans.
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