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BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 5:34:02 AM)

Of  course I can tell within the first 5 minutes.A submissive woman just gives off those sub vibes.Any dom in the ls as long as I have been should be able to pick up on her submissive nature very quickly..BH




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 5:36:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Of  course I can tell within the first 5 minutes.A submissive woman just gives off those sub vibes.Any dom in the ls as long as I have been should be able to pick up on her submissive nature very quickly..BH


Now, how's that for a sweeping generalization?




GreedyTop -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 5:54:34 AM)

~FR~

Oops.. just checked.. my manual was outdated.. it is no longer the bottom of her foot (the barefoot ones wear them off too quickly it seems, with all those calluses).  Now ya gotta check under her tongue for teh USDA Prime Sub stamp.. AND a registration number!  (too many cases of fraud, yanno.. )




domiguy -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 5:56:34 AM)

I can tell when she gets down on her knees and begs for my piss...Usually a dead give away.




sunshinemiss -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 6:30:10 AM)

No, honey, that's just the men's room. You need new glasses. If you go over to the Star Trek thread, maybe we can replicate you some. [:D]




LaTigresse -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 7:47:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

We are apt, as humans, to overvalue our uniqueness and downplay our pervasively-recurring traits. Additionally, people's impressions of reality via the hypothetical are usually starkly different from actual action in practice.

And this, as it is presented (in loose reference to percentages), is actually apt.

But the question in the OP becomes moot as the generic submission score of a woman won't matter unless there's a mutual response. So, the proper Confucian answer would be:

"When it happens, you won't need to know."



I believe this explains, very well, my own feelings on the matter. Because, 99.99999% of the population, it won't matter to me whether they are submissive or not.




Icarys -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 10:15:01 AM)

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No, honey, that's just the men's room. You need new glasses. If you go over to the Star Trek thread, maybe we can replicate you some.

LMAO. Nice zinger there.




Icarys -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/10/2011 2:29:17 PM)

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Just want to ask this question, because I'm really not good at socializing. And if you're talking to a woman, how would you know that she's submissive or not? Are there any signs to look on? Facial expression?

Kindly help thanks...

I judge her by my criteria and that of webster's which happens to be pretty close to my own personal views. I try not to water it down just so it can fit. :)

submission - the feeling of patient, submissive humbleness
- the state of being submissive or compliant; meekness.





Focus50 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/11/2011 3:44:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

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Now you can't have it both ways...! You may have meant that he turns it on or off as roleplay, but you didn't say that. Roleplay is not the default meaning of dominance, at least not to the considerable percentage of us who live D/s or M/s as a core personal relationship dynamic.

So if you don't stipulate that which is relevant but not obvious, you don't then get to plead innocence/ignorance in regard of statements others *allegedly* "miscontrue" from you.


Oh please. Even the rules of debate allow for clarification of points, terms, or phrases that may be ambiguous. If someone has misconstrued what I said, of course I get to come back and attempt to explain my actual meaning. It's called conversation. Now, it's entirely up to you whether you want to believe me, or whether you want to continue to push your own agenda of moral superiority.

Whoa; my "agenda of moral superiority"???? For calling you on a BS.... sorry, "ambiguous" statement? lol


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As for proving myself, what exactly am I proving? That I am arrogant? Highly opinionated? That I thrive on confrontation? I admit to all that freely.

Why don't we add "uses easily misconstrued phrases" and "makes sweeping generalization." I'll cop to that to, with the cavaet that the majority of regular posters on this forum do the same.

The fog is lifting; mostly you're proving what an angry person you are in that you don't so much thrive on confrontation as seek it out.


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Your statement: "I  brought it up because my experience of internet bdsm Forums (here, bondage.com and the old bdsm-online) is that the domliest of all tend to be switches who over-compensate in (apparently) feeling they hafta try harder or prove themselves or whatever it is." Is an example of a sweeping generalization that can be easily misconstrued.

No, it's not a sweeping statement but an observation of a pattern of behaviour. While it may not be PC (of which I'm sure *you* can relate), I certainly did not say all or most switches behave this way. I'm just not surprised when the loudest person in the room turns out to be a switch.


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I consider myself a good communicator, but obviously in this particular venue, I have much to learn.

What you are is an angry provocateur who has no need for reason or credibility; just a stage to vent. FYI, a good communicator does not use "easily misconstrued phrases" or freely throw sweeping generalizations about. They have 2 ears but only one mouth, too, not the other way 'round.....

And since I now recognise you're just here to make theatre and not the discussion, I'll save myself the futility of trying to reason with you, now and in the future.... I concede - congrats; you win!

Now to back sloooowly out the door....

Focus.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/11/2011 5:03:54 AM)

*Just kinda chuckles*

I did not create the conflict in this "conversation*  -- YOU did. I merely did not back down from it.

I do understand that in all your domliness you have to have the last word, however. So here is a present for you.




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ranja -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/11/2011 7:40:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Focus50
tell the women to keep it down because the men were talking.


oh dear... i heard that all my childhood... what a blast from the past...
great... i used to be quiet of course but always thought 'the men' were talking such bollocks it was quite unbelievable...
As a young adult i started chipping in regardless... eventhough 'the men' did not like it... it caused friction and bad feelings.
As an older adult i think it is indeed best to leave 'the men' to their strange muzings... because nothing really matters... quite unbelievable




Focus50 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 3:31:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ranja


quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50
tell the women to keep it down because the men were talking.


oh dear... i heard that all my childhood... what a blast from the past...
great... i used to be quiet of course but always thought 'the men' were talking such bollocks it was quite unbelievable...
As a young adult i started chipping in regardless... eventhough 'the men' did not like it... it caused friction and bad feelings.
As an older adult i think it is indeed best to leave 'the men' to their strange muzings... because nothing really matters... quite unbelievable


So that makes it two from two who can't see it in a context of humour - a bit of mischievous baiting...!

It's looking like I'll have to reinstate it in my profile; that a sub will need a sense of humour around me.... <shrugs>

Focus.




DesFIP -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 4:03:40 AM)

Not a sense of humor, but a compatible one. Unless you said that line with a wink or such, I wouldn't think you were joking either. I would however look at you like you were a total and complete alien, before turning back to my conversation and making a mental note to avoid small gatherings with you in the future.




Awareness -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 4:26:18 AM)

  Make that three.




Focus50 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 4:36:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Not a sense of humor, but a compatible one. Unless you said that line with a wink or such, I wouldn't think you were joking either. I would however look at you like you were a total and complete alien, before turning back to my conversation and making a mental note to avoid small gatherings with you in the future.


Not you, too, Celeste???? [8|] <sigh>

This really isn't my thread - think I'm gonna stick around.... ;)

Focus.




Focus50 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 4:46:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

  Make that three.


This is more like it.... [:)]

I've seen the dribble you've been posting about and conclude that you're also here for theatre therapy. I'll take your dissent as an endorsement.

Focus.




Awareness -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 4:47:49 AM)

  Actually dude, I was talking about the chick above me.

I screen for sanity and humour.  Women who take themselves too seriously are poor candidates for anything worthwhile.




Focus50 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 5:34:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

  Actually dude, I was talking about the chick above me.

I screen for sanity and humour.  Women who take themselves too seriously are poor candidates for anything worthwhile.


Oops - my mistake for reading something personal in the "in reply to Focus50" stamp of that reply.

But don't let Icarys catch you making with the drive-by commentary, too; that seems his specialty.

I'm batting a thousand, regardless....

Dude.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 5:41:55 AM)

yeeaaaah i wouldn't think that was funny either -- like Des said, it's not just A sense of humor, it's a compatible one.
a guy i used to go to school with once told me how funny he thought it was to ice his stairs in winter and watch people fall and hurt themselves. he has A sense of humor, but not one i agree with or have any respect for.
that "be quite, tha menz is talkin'" shit is lame. =p




KMsAngel -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 6:08:37 AM)

maybe you have to realise how often aussies don't take themselves seriously to catch the humour.[;)]




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