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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 3:58:35 PM

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LOL, being on top just means having to do more work, plus I like playing with errr internal muscles, if you're on top with the legs spread it's a bit more difficult to do that...

I think it's all how you perceive an action to be, as somebody said, some people might perceive giving a BJ as a submissive act, I don't think so, I can stop anytime, I can really control his excitement. But in the end it doesn't really matter how anybody perceives any action, as LP said before, if you got time to wonder about if what your doing is truly dominant or might be submissive, you're missing out, because if you got time to wonder about such trivial shit, the sex is obviously mediocre and boring - and to be honest, I rather have no sex than boring sex, waste of time and there is just nothing dominant at all about boring sex.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:22:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I think it's all how you perceive an action to be, as somebody saidx

I don't think I could go for that *entirely*, Lady C. As I said earlier, I'm struggling to see how, for instance, my mounting a woman's face and jizzing on it could still allow her to feel it to be a dominant act on her part and a submissive one on mine. But, hey, I guess anything's possible deep in there in the psyche.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:24:43 PM

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Maybe if she'd ask for a special face cream? I dunno, I never had that desire so I never gave it any thought, but then maybe I don't watch enough porn?

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:28:55 PM

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Maybe if she'd ask for a special face cream? I dunno, I never had that desire so I never gave it any thought, but then maybe I don't watch enough porn?

Ah - there's the thing, then. If it doesn't click in the D/s way for both partners, it doesn't happen anyway.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:30:26 PM

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As I said earlier, I'm struggling to see how, for instance, my mounting a woman's face and jizzing on it could still allow her to feel it to be a dominant act on her part and a submissive one on mine.

Humiliation factor. Being forced to make a mess. Being put under pressure to perform - especially when she's eye-level with that performance. Being made to hurry up, get on with it, because she wants to see, right up close and personal.

...am I getting anything?

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:40:06 PM

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Believe it or not, I don't spend a moment caring about how male Dominants fuck. Never occurs to Me.

You know what? Great minds think alike, me neither. Busy with my own put the pony in the barn.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:53:31 PM

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...am I getting anything?

:p

By crackey, I think you're onto something! I guess she could also tell him to lick it off her face . . . .

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 5:54:57 PM

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The possibilities are endless!

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 6:00:04 PM

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Indeed, and especially when my dick's involved!

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 9:10:34 PM

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I'm wondering if you get from a male perspective that being above and behind; of gripping the female etc is powerful and (non-lifestyle) dominant in its own right...? It's primal and animal etc. Which is why I'm asking the mechanics and intricacies of how Dommes overcome that....

I get that it feels that way to you, and that's cool. I'm really not wired for it to feel that way for me. It feels like a yummy treat that I ordered up because I am horny and it feels good. It's kind of like ordering ice cream. I like how it tastes, so I order some and enjoy the hell out of it. It doesn't have any deeper D/s meaning beyond my getting what I like 'cuz I can order it up at will. Stud service is just as decadently indulgent as ice cream, and has negative calories as a bonus. LOL

I grew up in the Pagan community, so my views of sex and what sex means are pretty non mainstream. I am pretty much agnostic myself; my faith is science. But I grew up with the principles of "Do what you will, if it harms none" and "Sex is good and healthy and a joyous celebration of life".

There was no shame, no loss of status, implied in being a woman who loves sex any and every way. I was never taught that, thank goodness. Sadly, I think most people are taught that. The default mindset seems to be that normal female enjoyment of sex must be shameful or submissive or involve a loss of status on her part. It's just not that way for me.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/28/2011 9:26:29 PM

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I don't think I could go for that *entirely*, Lady C. As I said earlier, I'm struggling to see how, for instance, my mounting a woman's face and jizzing on it could still allow her to feel it to be a dominant act on her part and a submissive one on mine. But, hey, I guess anything's possible deep in there in the psyche.

Well, if you grew up in a culture that said cum was nasty and dirty, and women aren't supposed to like it unless they are shameful, low-status sluts and whores, and if you sully a woman with your cum you are degrading her and forcing her to take your nasty, dirty stuff, I guess not. But.....euwww. That really is a pretty icky mindset if you stop to think about it. Do you like feeling that way about your own body, and your own bodily fluids?

I grew up seeing the ritual of athame in chalice, representing the Lord uniting with the Lady, as a standard part of our "going to church" on a regular basis. Then the mead (or juice for young'uns) was poured into the chalice and we drank and celebrated. It's pretty firmly imprinted in my mind that these things are sacred and wonderful, not dirty or nasty or icky. To be blessed with life giving sacred seed is thought of as a gift and a sacred celebration, to the point that we did it in freakin' church, or the Pagan equivalent I grew up with.

There's a lot that is bugfuck nuts about the Pagan and Neopagan community, to the point that I don't go there much any more. But this isn't one of those things. To be able to really enjoy sex, all aspects of sex, from a fundamentally healthy view, is one of the gifts I deeply appreciate from my upbringing.

So yes, I might order up a cum shower if that tickled my fancy, and feel quite cheery about it. I don't literally believe that you need to sprinkle semen on the fields or on your person to receive magic supernatural blessings, but it is still good stuff, and it is to celebrate and enjoy and feel blessed by.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 1:33:24 AM

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 2:35:04 AM

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That's the thing, Focus. I don't need your wiring, either. I don't need brute strength during fucking.

Believe it or not, I don't spend a moment caring about how male Dominants fuck. Never occurs to Me.

That's the thing; you don't necessarily need what you never had. If women and Dommes don't have the brute strength relative to their male partners, and the vast majority don't, then they don't fuck that way.... So yeah, I was kinda curious as to how Dommes do adapt in that particular circumstance.

Not sure why you think I wouldn't believe you but do drop by anytime to tell me what you don't care about. Though I think you're over-compensating somewhere in there....

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 2:44:28 AM

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Do you like feeling that way about your own body, and your own bodily fluids?

Short answer: I don't feel that way.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:06:49 AM

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That's the thing; you don't necessarily need what you never had. If women and Dommes don't have the brute strength relative to their male partners, and the vast majority don't, then they don't fuck that way.... So yeah, I was kinda curious as to how Dommes do adapt in that particular circumstance.

Not sure why you think I wouldn't believe you but do drop by anytime to tell me what you don't care about. Though I think you're over-compensating somewhere in there....

Focus.

Ah, OK, you're confused. Let Me see if I can help you out a bit.

It's not all that hard to take a man down. There's this lovely sweet spot on the side of the thigh. One well placed knee will drop him. A good kick to the back of the ankle will put him on the floor. Side of the knee? Same thing. Ohhh. A shot to the jugular? More than enough time. Any random self defense class teaches this. My boy is over a foot taller the Me. Want to bet I can drop him like a stone?

Brute strength isn't needed. Simple lessons in anatomy.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:29:04 AM

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Brute strength isn't needed. Simple lessons in anatomy.

True, brute strength seriously overrated, I don't buy into domination by brute strength, any hulking ape with a club would be not a bully but a dom, thought that kinda stuff went out with the Neanderthals... Applying that whole concept just doesn't work, my dogs are a lot stronger than me, they could take me down and kill me with little effort would they be inclined to do so, yet they follow my commands, simply because I understand what drives them and train them accordingly, never even had to lift my hand and use force, praise works amazingly well. Ahhh the beauty of conditioning (and I'm not talking about hair products).

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:31:19 AM

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I have literally no idea what you're talking about, Focus. That is not an exaggeration. I do not know how any of the above sentences are supposed to relate to anything I said.

Since you're questioning the word semantics, I meant that you're considering the symbolism of how body parts are arranged, and whether that symbolism implies dominance or submission, while none of the women answering you care about that symbolism. Nothing to do with how many genders there are 'out there', or what variety of 'wiring' you have, or any differences in physiology. Or technique, for that matter.

Seriously, I've no idea what you meant in this answer. If you hadn't started it with the word semantics I would have assumed you'd just quoted the wrong person and were talking to someone else.

Looks like a replay of your first post - but with even more claws....

Me, I'm asking a question for the purpose of discussion and you, well you're just trying too hard to be difficult and take offense blah blah.

You really can't just pass by that which you obviously have nothing constructive to offer in the spirit of civil discussion?

Focus.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:40:14 AM

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As a straight sub female, I enjoy it because of the sexual objectification. He wants me, he bends me over and takes me, and I get to feel his physical strength in the process. What's not to like in that? However there's a huge added enjoyment because it's g spot time which means great physical orgasms as well. Add in the fact he can pull my hair or spank my ass, and it's hard to imagine much better. I also enjoyed it with my vanilla ex simply because of the g spot stimulation.

But I don't like my head pushed into the pillows, my allergies are such that I prefer my nose being free.

We can agree on the g spot stimulation but I just don't feel objectified at all, that would be the instant turn off, if he wants an object, he can go and fuck an inflatable doll, it's actually comfy, we both have freedom of movement, I can push back as light or as hard as I want, I can keep my legs together or apart (also makes a difference with the depth) and depending where I am in my cycle deep penetration might be painful (don't like my cervix being banged), it's a lot more comfy than being on top or being below and yeah, he has his hands free and can play with my nipples and my clit... He better not gets any ideas of spanking my ass if he wants to keep his hands...

So to review:

You're a Domme who enjoys doggy-style sex and/but you have your own ways of maintaining who's really in control, esp should he "get ideas"...?

Dunno what all the previous fuss was about but thankyou. :)

You're not inclined to get as verbal as some of the previous Dommes?

Focus.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:52:40 AM

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Looks like a replay of your first post - but with even more claws....

Me, I'm asking a question for the purpose of discussion and you, well you're just trying too hard to be difficult and take offense blah blah.

You really can't just pass by that which you obviously have nothing constructive to offer in the spirit of civil discussion?

Focus.

No claws - I'm neither offended (I was pretty sure you weren't being offensive) nor trying to be difficult - but I genuinely have no idea what you were trying to say to me, or how it connected with anything I said. This isn't snarkiness, it's genuine confusion.

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RE: Dommes and Doggy-style. - 5/29/2011 3:59:27 AM

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I'm wondering if you get from a male perspective that being above and behind; of gripping the female etc is powerful and (non-lifestyle) dominant in its own right...? It's primal and animal etc. Which is why I'm asking the mechanics and intricacies of how Dommes overcome that....

I get that it feels that way to you, and that's cool. I'm really not wired for it to feel that way for me. It feels like a yummy treat that I ordered up because I am horny and it feels good. It's kind of like ordering ice cream. I like how it tastes, so I order some and enjoy the hell out of it. It doesn't have any deeper D/s meaning beyond my getting what I like 'cuz I can order it up at will. Stud service is just as decadently indulgent as ice cream, and has negative calories as a bonus. LOL

I grew up in the Pagan community, so my views of sex and what sex means are pretty non mainstream. I am pretty much agnostic myself; my faith is science. But I grew up with the principles of "Do what you will, if it harms none" and "Sex is good and healthy and a joyous celebration of life".

There was no shame, no loss of status, implied in being a woman who loves sex any and every way. I was never taught that, thank goodness. Sadly, I think most people are taught that. The default mindset seems to be that normal female enjoyment of sex must be shameful or submissive or involve a loss of status on her part. It's just not that way for me.

Lol, rather unsurprisingly, it's not too cool to have or even acknowledge such a thing as male wiring in here.... But yeah, I can appreciate your perspective (re fem wiring) whereas the dom wiring is much as mine.

And I like your term "stud service"; that's new to me.... Basically he's objectified to being cock transport who does the supplying while you decide how it's used.

Thanks again.

Focus.

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