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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/5/2011 6:36:13 PM   
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I would hardly say that makes me Masterly to be in charge of his laundry.
Bite your tongue! When you control the supply of clean underwear you have the real power in the relationship.

Ain't this the Truth!!! The whole world would go to hell in a hand basket without Clean Clothes!!


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/5/2011 7:02:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well i must say that when i am standing in that hot laundry mat, folding hot clothes, i don't feel very masterish lol

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/5/2011 7:09:17 PM   
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Well i must say that when i am standing in that hot laundry mat, folding hot clothes, i don't feel very masterish lol


Cookie...Great Mistress of the Laundry!! with Ninja Folding skills! Grab ahold of those clothes like it's the back of somebody's hair and do it like you mean business! Complete with Ancient Chinese Laundry Secrets you'll never tell. LOL

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/5/2011 7:30:26 PM   
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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/5/2011 7:43:01 PM   
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Really?  Then how do you explain him *not* enjoying what I'm doing and the whole purpose of it is because I've decided that I want to watch him suffer?


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 3:27:09 AM   
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imagine a session...
The Dom will tie up the sub, whip her/him, use a flogger, toys...
Might tie them on an X-cross, or use hooks to hang them, if they are into a deep pain session...
Will have to wear a certain uiform (Dommes/Dominatrixes mostly), that requires effort to put on, and discomfort in warm environments....
in short, the Master indulges in considerable labor, while the sub "suffers", or rather enjoys, the whole process...
so, under that scope, who is the real Master?


OK, going point by point.
1-I do what I want in sessions. If she don't want pain when I wanna give it, of well, that sucks for her.
2-I don't wear silly scene clothes. I wear shit that's comfy. I'm a freaking dom-I dictate to my environment, not the other way around.
3-Snickers. Yeah, I so doubt that she "suffers, or rather enjoys the whole process." She gets off on the service aspect, being forced and taken to places she wouldn't ever willingly go, but that's a long long way from enjoying the whole process. She suffers, often brutally, but it is in the suffering that she finds transcendence, which is a whole lot different than enjoyment.


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 3:45:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantMan

Inspired by a thread I just read, and a conversation I had LONG ago, I had this thought... and I want to run it by the Dommes/Doms mostly, and see if they agree...

What I thought was...
We know the roles... Master/slave, Dom/sub, etc... but... are the Masters the true Masters, (Or Doms the true Doms)... or is it that , in practical reality, the real Masters are the subs?

We don't do "roles". He is who he is and I'm who I am. It doesn't get turned on and off.
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What do I mean, now...
imagine a session...

We also don't do sessions. We call it living.
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The Dom will tie up the sub, whip her/him, use a flogger, toys...
Might tie them on an X-cross, or use hooks to hang them, if they are into a deep pain session...

He does whatever makes him happy and whatever he feels like at the moment. It may include what you listed or it may be something as simple as going to see a movie.
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Will have to wear a certain uiform (Dommes/Dominatrixes mostly), that requires effort to put on, and discomfort in warm environments....

I never knew that wearing a t shirt and shorts took effort....
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in short, the Master indulges in considerable labor, while the sub "suffers", or rather enjoys, the whole process...

I also never knew how taxing it is for him to watch me cook, clean, do his laundry, run his errands, massage him, make him laugh, wash his car, get his things ready in his truck to take for work every morning....I'm so glad I now know this. I'll be much more in tune to his labors in the future.
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so, under that scope, who is the real Master?


He is. He always is.

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 3:54:28 AM   
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All I can tell you was when I was put in that position, he would have me feel his erection to let me know what it did for him.... so I suppose it was as much for his fun as it was for mine


That's hot... and that's why we do what we do.  


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 9:41:09 AM   
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"Sessions" is only one tiny aspect of our relationship and his authority. What he does in these "sessions" is whatever HE wants to do, to achieve the effect HE desires, and wearing what HE wants to wear. I might love it or I might hate it or anything in between. But it's what he wants.

I don't relate to what is written in the OP at all.

(edited to fix a typo)

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 10:06:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		The answer really depends on where one is in the relationship and the gender of the dominant. Allow me to explain....

In an existing relationship, the Dominant is the "master" on a day-to-day basis.

In the preliminary or "courting" phase it is the woman who is in charge (at least in a hetero relationship), regardless of whether she is dominant or submissive. This is because it is the woman who has the options. She has a plethora of men offering themselves to her, and she can pick and choose.



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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/6/2011 3:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		He doesn't dress up when we play. Usually he's naked, as am I. If I'm lucky he'll keep a tee on so he doesn't sweat on me.

He can service top and will if he feels like indulging me or if what I ask for is something that appeals to him at that moment. But I don't usually ask for stuff so it rarely happens that way.

He's not a sadist but that doesn't mean that if I enjoy it, he automatically doesn't. Or vice versa. Why do you assume that things are the way you imagine them to be? Instead of believing us when we tell what happens in our relationships?


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/7/2011 3:57:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, I had the same reaction to this question as Heather did. Master does what he wants, how he wants, when he wants and I am along for the ride. He doesn't endulge me, but then if he did I wouldn't be with him. I was always looking for the guy who beat the shit out of me, solicit whatever action, reaction, or service from me they wanted, without regard to what "I" wanted, what "i" thought I could take, or what "I" like. What I like is serving him, in whatever way he wants to be served. It doesn't matter if it's appealing, or unappealing. It's the act of him utilizing me that sends me to the moon. But I am one of those really weird chicks who is even happy doing his laundry. Just like with the laundry~ if he asked how he could make it more enjoyable for me, if he even thought in those terms, I'd puke a little, then I'd be scared to death something had happened to him.
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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/7/2011 4:40:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm having one of those days where I feel like driving a nail gun through my head. Because for me D/s or a M/s relationship is about a hell of a lot more shit besides a BDSM play scene. It's part of day to day living and life with somebody else in the picture. I don't have to dress up special, unless I want or need to. I don't have to have them tied up, or some elaborate setting.

Matter of fact, they even get to go along with me to places. Dare I might say even Starbucks, Bookstores, the Mall, the beach or where ever I so desire to go. Warm and Fuzzy things even, the touch of them toweling sand off my back. Perhaps bring me a cup of coffee saying "here you go Master" or whatever else.

Sure, it's always great to have them tied up and using them in so many wonderful ways. It's a matter then of choice of what to do. Many times, I run on impulse according to what strikes my desires at the time in the moment. There are times when I plot and plan things out. However, that's a general plan or idea. Things don't always go the way you think they will. That's reality.

I've seen posts on here where people are finding it hard to maintain D/s or TPE or whatever 24/7. There's a difference between maintaining D/s or TPE 24/7 or living out a literal scene for an Extended length of time. God, I just want to take a nail gun to my head at times over this madness. I have yet to figure out how people make this so so much more difficult than it has to be, or needs to be.

















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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/7/2011 5:56:47 AM   
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We know the roles... Master/slave, Dom/sub, etc... but... are the Masters the true Masters, (Or Doms the true Doms)... or is it that , in practical reality, the real Masters are the subs?


my thought is that it doesn't really matter and in reality there are no real Masters and there are no real subs or slaves at all... there is only what you imagine your role to be, and if your partner is enthusiastically playing along with you then it sort of becomes a real good ride for both.

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/7/2011 8:22:42 AM   
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The OP is to me, asking questions based upon the internet fantasy land, almost like the shit guys come up with for pro Dommes. Or with the expectations a lot of guys come up with that are better suited to pros, rather than actual D/s or M/s RELATIONSHIPS.

That doesn't mean I don't see a lot of relationships where it appears the D or M, is actually the s.......but that is through my own filters and not that of those actually IN those relationships.

The bottom line is that for me.......the relationship is the priority. I've always loved how KoM phrased it once or twice. Something like "We all serve the relationship." He likened the relationship to a ship. He is the captain, guiding the ship.

I think his views are very much like my own.


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/7/2011 8:33:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

All I can tell you was when I was put in that position, he would have me feel his erection to let me know what it did for him.... so I suppose it was as much for his fun as it was for mine


That's hot... and that's why we do what we do.  




True for me as well. I only do it for the erections (although I prefer the word hard-on, I am dirty like that.)


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/8/2011 12:34:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends how much the Dom is satisfying their own urges, and how much they are performing for the submissive's urges. If the Dom loves rubber, loves control, loves flogging then the submissive is definitely performing a service to them to allow their body to be used for those purposes. Having said that I know many submissives who definitely control the play, and have their poor Dom dancing like a puppet on a string, trying to do everything the way the submissive wants and hurt them in the way they like, apologising if the submissive doesn't like it, etc..

As much as possible I try to move away from that set up, and I do this by making sure that I'm doing what Sir wants and not the other way round. Yes, as a masochist, his sadism does meet my needs and I love his control, or I wouldn't be here. But I'm not that much into dressing up (he loves it) being pierced (another one for him) and I really do miss wanking, lol.

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/8/2011 12:27:27 PM   
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someone fucked your ear?

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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/8/2011 12:52:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantMan
The Dom will tie up the sub, whip her/him, use a flogger, toys...
Might tie them on an X-cross, or use hooks to hang them, if they are into a deep pain session...
Will have to wear a certain uniform (Dommes/Dominatrixes mostly), that requires effort to put on, and discomfort in warm environments....
in short, the Master indulges in considerable labor, while the sub "suffers", or rather enjoys, the whole process...
so, under that scope, who is the real Master?


What you are describing leans toward a fairly boilerplate definition of topping, not anything to do with being a Master...or dominance, for that matter.


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RE: Something that came into my mind... - 6/8/2011 12:57:41 PM   
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By The Power of Gain
Je t'adore!!

Put some more love into it,
like you mean business.
With Je t'aime
Je t'adore pffftt...


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