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tiggerspoohbear -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 5:05:48 AM)

I get my share of golden tickets every few months.  It's either where I know I shoulda thought before I put fingers to the keyboard or had my post pulled because I'd responded to one I know I shoulda left alone.  I don't know the mods personally, but they do the best they can since they can't be expected to sit at computers 24/7 in shifts.  There just aren't enough of them and then you have to take into consideration that they do this as volunteers.  I don't believe for a minute that just because they volunteer their time they "slack" off.  They're dedicated to what they do and with the tools they're given.  So yeah, I have no problems with them and have all the respect in the world for a tough job where a lot of people do nothing but complain about how they moderate the site.

It's this simple, if you're not happy with the degree of moderation, ask for your refund, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out and always remember that this is still a free website where we get to voice a lot that wouldn't be approved on other sites at all.  Especially the *ahem* one where group owners get to pick who they want and don't in their little incestuous lil groups.  Those where favoritism is heavily outweighed by something said that isn't in agreement with the general tone of the conversation. 

'Nuff said.



ranja -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 6:22:27 AM)

there are many things i do not understand:

Why can't people just say what they want... indeed if you don't like it just block them or go somewhere else.
Join the exchange with enthousiasm i say, the less moderation the better in my book.

When a thread is not to your liking why not contribute to another one?
Unless gross illegal stuff is being talked about... why on earth would anybody complain to the mods about anothers opinion?

Why do certain people get away with things others don't?

Why can nobody see that a post has been pulled after it has gone... even the numbers of the posts change to accommodate the sudden disappearance.

Why do threads get locked after it is considered to be out of hand, if things must be done then why not just delete the lot and let them start again... if anybody can be bothered?

Why is being *off topic* such an issue in certain cases but not in others?

Why are people on [awaiting approval] still allowed to post anything at all, that is just adding to the work load and totally unnecessary.

Why are there no CLEAR rules? it all seems to depend on the moderators own interpretation, and i have read the TOS (to be found in tiny letters in the bottom corner of the front page)... well it doesn't really tell you a great lot.

If moderators are so busy and non-bias... how and why do they find time to participate in threads?

Why do some post get pulled, but then the responses to the post that was pulled remain up? That is just totally naf.

Why do posts with quotes of pulled posts get scensored so the pulled post that was quoted gets edited out, but the rest of the post in reply still stands?
... i mean what is the point of that, if the original post is gone, then surely the response does not matter a jot any more either, the whole thread just becomes even weirder then.

Why is it possible but considered *not done* to respond to a three month old thread?

Why are so many *old* posters allowed to totally rip new posters appart?

oh and i am sure i can think of many more questions
in general life is a mystery to me



GreedyTop -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 6:36:27 AM)

lately, most of the ModLoveLetters I've gotten have been along the lines of "by now, you should know better"


and theyre right.



mnottertail -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 6:41:14 AM)

Mine are more on the order of:

Remember when you were banned for a year, mnottertail?  Say (so and so) one more time and you will go away longer than Charlie Manson.

Thank you for being a part of CollarMe.

(various signatories)



Icarys -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 6:41:50 AM)

quote:

I got one on hide. Thanks for the heads up on that one, julia.

I'm proud of you both. [:D]



GreedyTop -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 6:42:14 AM)

hey, in prior Mod incarnations, I got those too, Ron.. wait, except I dont think I ever crossed the line far enough to be put on moderation,... but I certainly got enough scares to behave!



Icarys -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 7:04:06 AM)

I think I've been on Mod 2 or 3 times.To be honest I'm not sure. It's not something I focus on. I look at it as a most likely needed vacation from this place both from their standpoint and mine. I may not entirely like it at the time but it has been a good thing on occasion.

I trust this group of Mods to be fair to a great degree when making that decision. Each time I have been put on by them I've agreed with the decision except one "Mod".



juliaoceania -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 8:56:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Mine are more on the order of:

Remember when you were banned for a year, mnottertail?  Say (so and so) one more time and you will go away longer than Charlie Manson.

Thank you for being a part of CollarMe.

(various signatories)


We wouldn't want that to happen



RapierFugue -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 8:59:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Mine are more on the order of:

Remember when you were banned for a year, mnottertail?  Say (so and so) one more time and you will go away longer than Charlie Manson.

Thank you for being a part of CollarMe.

(various signatories)


We wouldn't want that to happen


Indeed we wouldn't. Mnot and PoliteSub have reduced me to fits of giggles on more than one occasion :)



LadyPact -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 9:03:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

lately, most of the ModLoveLetters I've gotten have been along the lines of "by now, you should know better"


and theyre right.

Yep.  When I get those, I generally write back, apologize for taking up their time, and let them know that I'll try to behave Myself. 



GreedyTop -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 9:06:55 AM)

yep yep ...



JstAnotherSub -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 9:11:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

lately, most of the ModLoveLetters I've gotten have been along the lines of "by now, you should know better"


and theyre right.

Yep.  When I get those, I generally write back, apologize for taking up their time, and let them know that I'll try to behave Myself. 

another yup



GreedyTop -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 9:13:04 AM)

and almost always, I totally get why I got the love letter..   when I do NOT understand, even after a response, I chalk it up to "hey, I *thought* I was being nice... but I dont work around here,...."



Arpig -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:16:11 AM)

quote:

Obviously, my opinion doesn't tally with many of the back-slappers you'll see posting to this thread, but just because very few have the gumption to disagree with the bias, favouritism and inconsistency regularly demonstrated by mods on CM doesn't mean that no-one else feels that way.
If it so very bad, leave.
I have the gumption to complain about anything, believe me. But I simply don't see all the horrid things you see.

Fast reply from here on out....

I always wonder about the mentality of those who complain about the moderation...so you had a post pulled. Big fat hairy fucking deal. It's just a net forum, and what you had to say really wasn't that important, and the world will do just fine without reading it. Nothing posted on here buy anybody (other than me of course) is of any great weight, no matter how witty or profound you may think it was. Whining on and on about how unfair the Mods are because they pulled you masterpeiece is just childish.

And just to be perfectly clear, I don't have a clue who any of the Mods are, like I said the Mods we have now aren't the ones we had when I joined, and probably won't be the ones we have when I finally stop coming here. I've only ever had a problem with one Mod (ah, the wonderful Mademoiselle Onze...such fond memories), but even she wasn't really that bad. Certainly not the castrating harridan some have portrayed her as. I managed to post quite happily with no issues through her entire reign of terror, and I'm not the always the most diplomatic of guys, so the horror stories are more than just a little exaggerated.

But like I said, if the Moderation here is so very bad, go to Fet, and good riddance.



RapierFugue -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:32:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

But like I said, if the Moderation here is so very bad, go to Fet, and good riddance.


Thank you, Thunderbird II.



LaTigresse -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:43:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

and almost always, I totally get why I got the love letter..   when I do NOT understand, even after a response, I chalk it up to "hey, I *thought* I was being nice... but I dont work around here,...."



I gotta admit, while I haven't gotten one in a really long time, I only actually read a couple and maybe replied to them. I don't remember. Most I've just let sit there then, deleted when I am in the mood to clean out the box. Which I really need to do some day........there are like a dozen pages in the pink folder alone.

I look at it this way.......I will keep posting what I want, within reason ( I try to take a step back and think about my first impulse and decide if it is genuine or heat of the moment ), and if one day I find I cannot post, well I just fingure someone decided my opinions were not worth having around anymore. I mean really, it's not like I can't find something else to take up my time.



juliaoceania -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:44:15 AM)

quote:

It would be impossible for me to disagree more with your post.

Isn't debate grand :)

I thought the "good old days" were anything but, allowing trolls to run riot (although it's still a fairly troll-rich environment even now) and censuring those who spoke up. The new regime is far better for sure, so I guess you've made me accept that point in a clever way, after someone made the same point to me in memo earlier, and I rejected it.

PS: person who made that point in memo to me earlier: you were right and I was wrong.


Isn't perception a funny thing?

I remember trolls being banned much quicker than they are these days. They may have made many sock puppets to try to out smart the moderation, but they were shut down very quickly. I do not care if there are trolls around, as long as they do not get too out of hand, and my perception is that they had very little voice here. There were some that people THOUGHT of as trolls, but just because someone seems nutty, have a complete opposite view from the rest of the membership, does not make them a troll.

There were a couple of favorite posters that I saw undergo a permanent ban. One of them never came back[:(]. So, yes, it was nice when everyone got their posting rights back.... I am a definite domifangirl, and an MnOtter one too.

Here is the ironic thing about this thread, and any other about moderation in the past, there will ALWAYS be those who join in singing the mods praises, and some of the very people who have been on threads trash talking past moderation, were in the past posting on threads about how she was the bestest thing since sliced bread. (and I am not pointing that at anyone on this particular thread).

I do not see why one set of moderators has to be bad for the present moderation to be good, or vice versa. I am not a black and white sorta gal like that. I also have to say that past moderation was done for free, too... so those who bag on the past moderation, but say "they work for free, so we should appreciate them" aren't exactly living by what they preach...




tazzygirl -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:51:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

I got one on hide. Thanks for the heads up on that one, julia.

I'm proud of you both. [:D]



you think you are that special? please, grow up.



mnottertail -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:53:00 AM)

I tried to block myself once a long time ago, ModeratorEleven told me to knock it off.



tazzygirl -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/18/2011 10:54:01 AM)

LOL.... now thats just sad.



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