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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:09:46 PM   
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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:13:54 PM   
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I really dont see what the harm is on denying something. 

You don't!!! It's no coincidence that people who hate the Jews are overwhelmingly the ones who deny it. Why do you think they would want to do that? Could it be that they want to re-legitimise their hatred by divorcing its consequences from one of the greatest genocidal atrocities of all time?

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:17:53 PM   
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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:21:19 PM   
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I really dont see what the harm is on denying something. 

There's an old saying hunky. "Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it."

Those who deny the holocaust happened are setting up the human race for a repeat.

We must remember the evil in our past as well as the good so that the evil doesn't happen again.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:24:09 PM   
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I get along with everybody.        Why do we need more laws?  We need less laws. 

Thats good for you but a lot of people are not as pleasantly disposed toward others. I don't completely agree with the Holocaust denial laws in Germany and France. To be honest I'm of two minds about them because I believe in freedom of speech and yet I do see denial of the Holocaust as a political act (i.e. hate speech) as explained in the above post.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:24:33 PM   
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I am heading for bed.  I will be on tomorrow.  Have a good night everybody.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:26:04 PM   
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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:41:42 PM   
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Free speech should not be criminalized.   

I am heading for bed.  I will be on tomorrow.  Have a good night everybody.



Why do you start shit then run?

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:45:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		"However the Jews were Hitler's number one target."

Why?

There's that word again.



ETA : According to the old folks the numbers do not add up. That would put world population at levels that it was simply not.

I will not mail you except under very specaial circumstace, which is not extant here. I say that history has been embellshed in the last fifty years, are you really going to argue against that ?

And if you think I hate anyone you are wrong, period. Even if every pogrom in Europe was completely justified somehow I would not hate Jews. I don't even hate serial killers and the like. I would rather see clrealy and possibly figure out how they got that way. And I have expressed my opinion about WBC for example, and that I might be impelled to take some very strong measures to stop what those assholes do. But I still do not hate them.

It's hard to get to really know me via text, I understand that. But I do not subscibe to "normal" human viewpoints on things that matter. The fact that I could seriously hurt or even kill someone without anger is a foreign concept to most people. I understand that and I also know that it is why I am sometimes misunderstood.

You hold different "truths" than I. When mankind was really primitive this got converted to hate, which is what impelled many wars. You see things differently, but I see no reason to hate you or anything of the sort. In fact you do present your case clearly pretty much and that I respect. Disagreeing is a whole different thing than being enemies.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:53:30 PM   
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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 8:56:18 PM   
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Unless you come up with hard facts stating otherwise, out of 9 million Jews, six million died. That was 9 million European Jews. The total number killed of all races were set betwen 11 and 17 million. Why does it have a Jewish face? Because 2/3rds of a race were wiped out.

I would think that is pretty obvious.


this is why people get arguing tooth and nails and this is all I am going to say about this shit unless you want to hit me up on the other side.


The question is if this has happened more than 20 fucking years ago how come everyone still cant get it right?


quote:

Source: The Washington Times, Tuesday, July 17, 1990 Poland reduced Auschwitz death toll estimate to 1 million
By Krysztof Leski and Ohad Gozani

London Daily Telegraph LONDON - Poland has cut its estimate of the number of people killed by the Nazis in the Auschwitz death camp from 4 million to just over 1 million.

The vast majority of the dead are now accepted to have been Jews, despite claims by the former Polish communist government that as many Poles perished in Hitler's largest concentration camp.

The revised Polish figures support claims by Israeli researchers that Poland's former communist government exaggerated the number of victims by inflating the estimate of non-Jews who died.



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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 9:36:28 PM   
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And, btw, it was the Jewish community who asked for the revision

After 50 years of deflecting the requests of Jewish groups, the Polish Government has agreed to change the wording on stone tablets at Auschwitz and Birkenau, the adjacent Nazi camps where more than one million Jews died during World War II.

The move follows decades of appeals by Jewish groups, who say the current plaques do not fully reflect the suffering of Jews there and focus too heavily on the camp’s non-Jewish victims. While thousands of non-Jews were among the estimated 1.5 million killed at Auschwitz, the victims were predominantly Jewish.

http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/polish-government-has-reduced-official-number-of-jews-killed-at-auschwitz-from-4-to-1-million/

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:08:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Why did Dahmer target who he did? Are you going to say that didnt happen too? Why the OK bomber, or the unibomber, or any other crazy person. "

Hang on here. Execute the fuck out of them. I am all for it as long as their guilt is established. (that can be a problem these days). But hate them ? Why ?

There is a big difference. Who Dahmer targeted was his own business. I can't read his mind and I doubt I could've back then, before the fact.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:10:51 PM   
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And now the truth is different than it used to be.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:23:58 PM   
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I really dont see what the harm is on denying something. 


Then you have a very limited vision.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:25:44 PM   
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"However the Jews were Hitler's number one target."

Why?

There's that word again.

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Surely even you can't be that obtuse.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:28:50 PM   
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"Why did Dahmer target who he did? Are you going to say that didnt happen too? Why the OK bomber, or the unibomber, or any other crazy person. "

Hang on here. Execute the fuck out of them. I am all for it as long as their guilt is established. (that can be a problem these days). But hate them ? Why ?

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Uh...where did she say to hate him?

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:39:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Denying the holocaust is supposedly hate. That is what they say, not me. I don't belive the numbers, that's all. I don't deny that it happened, but sometimes I question why it happened. Is that a crime as well outside of Germany ?

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:40:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Why did Dahmer target who he did? Are you going to say that didnt happen too? Why the OK bomber, or the unibomber, or any other crazy person. "

Hang on here. Execute the fuck out of them. I am all for it as long as their guilt is established. (that can be a problem these days). But hate them ? Why ?

There is a big difference. Who Dahmer targeted was his own business. I can't read his mind and I doubt I could've back then, before the fact.

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When did I say hate anyone?

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/27/2011 11:42:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Denying the holocaust is supposedly hate. That is what they say, not me. I don't belive the numbers, that's all. I don't deny that it happened, but sometimes I question why it happened. Is that a crime as well outside of Germany ?

T^T


In my mind, one Jew was one too many. Denying the holocaust is stupidity. Do the numbers really matter? Will that bring back any of the dead who DID die at those camps?

Argue the numbers all you want. But never say the event didnt take place.

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