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Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 10:44:54 AM

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Ok, this is just a "for fun" question. As a Switch do you enjoy the same kinds of activities, whether top or bottom, or do you find that what you can take as a bottom is very different than what you like to dish out as a Top? Do you have limits as a bottom that you love to engage in as a top?

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 10:53:38 AM

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It's completely differeny energy for me. So, whether I like something, why I like it and how I like it is on a completely different scale for me as a bottom than as a top.

Some things I like about the same, some things I like the same for different reasons, some things I like completely differently.

Just like most masochists really like flogging but don't really like dentists drills. Context/connection/energy changes everything.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 11:09:05 AM

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Typically I am fluffier as a top. But not always. Depends on the circumstances, the relationship, and where my mind is at.

There are also some things I like as a bottom that I do not have the experience or expertise to do as a top.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 11:24:01 AM

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Limits: I generally keep the same limits as a bottom that I keep in play as a top. Either way, I'm still teh same person, and things that do nothing for me just do nothing for me, regardless who's in charge.

Dishing It Out: Generally, I don't use my own limits to gauge what I do with other people. I've got a pain threshhold that is tied directly into my aggression, and one just feeds the other. I'm pretty sure I'd end up hurting someone very badly if I gauged it off of what I can take, so I don't. Then again, I don't do a lot fo physical play in the first place. Much more enjoyable to me to screw with someone's head for a few hours. Stronger, more viceral reactions, and I am definately a huge fan of bringing out the most primal reactions I can in a person.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 12:28:30 PM

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I've not done anything to anyone that hasn't been done to me in some form. So far. But I definitely have different likes and dislikes when it comes to topping and bottoming. For example, I rather like being flogged. It's not my favorite thing to do, but for the most part, it's all right. However, I really don't enjoy using a flogger on someone else. I prefer to be a bit more up close and personal, which is why I love using paddles on someone. But I hate it when He uses them on me!

I've discovered, interestingly enough, that the men I play with can't take nearly as much as I can in terms of pain.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 2:40:26 PM

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I generally like the same things done to me that I do to others. That way, my toybag is versatile enough so I can use whathever I want on someone or someone else can use whatever they want on me. Probably the only exception is CBT since I tend to not top men.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 2:52:02 PM

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I like some of the things I do to him, but he is a painslut so I take them on a much lower dose scale. CBT I don't have the equipment to try

but usually when I'm bottom we are roleplaying too so there's that headspace factor that kicks in. He can flog me, use nipple clamps that type of thing he just can't put any collars or leashes on me for medical reasons, no tight restraints either.
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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 3:06:19 PM

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well my limits stay the same top or not. and any thing i can or would dish out i can take as esaly. though my partners limits are not always as broad as my own especaly when it comes to pain. not so far anyway.. so what i dish out in that respect is actuly below what i myself chose to take when im sub. though that may change since were possabely getting a new pet in the near future. shold be intersting to see how it varies with another partner in how i top.. i find it varies widely by partner and mood realy .

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 3:31:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

Ok, this is just a "for fun" question. As a Switch do you enjoy the same kinds of activities, whether top or bottom, or do you find that what you can take as a bottom is very different than what you like to dish out as a Top? Do you have limits as a bottom that you love to engage in as a top?

Curious

Well most of the things that I enjoy weather I am being top or bottom. The only exception are doggie role-play, feminization or sissyboy, CBT, and forced CD(for obvious reasons), and canning on rare occassions.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 5:59:06 PM

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Generally speaking the ones that can dish but not take are called Doms/Dommes/Tops lol.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 9:23:47 PM

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Actually, i thought those were abusers... the ones that dish it out and have no desire to take it, even if they can, are the dom/tops... *impish grin*

I love splitting hairs... and I'm just razzin ya a lil...

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 9:51:10 PM

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I haven't had much experience yet topping. So far, I've never dished out anything close to what I've happily taken. This will be changing somewhat this Saturday when I do a strappado scene. The submissive I'll be playing with is very flexible. I'm not, there's no way I could endure strappado. But, I'd say with one addition, my basic limits when topping are the same as they are when I'm the bottom. They are: Hospitals, jails, morgues and anything likely to put me (or the bottom) into one of them. The addition, of course, is anything she says is a limit.

When topping, I find my motivation is the same as when I'm submitting. I want her to enjoy it.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/18/2006 10:46:24 PM

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Well, with the exception of gender specifics, I haven't done anything to anyone that I'm not willing to have done on myself if the Top has the expertise to do it. I do advanced needle play and I haven't found anyone that's willing or able to do some of the things to me that I've done to others.. ::like a scalp crown:: but I'd certainly be willing to try it.. except for that shaving the head thing.. Himself just won't let me go there with that. ;) I have shaved heads but it's a limit for Master to have a bald female slave.. at least for now. In general, my favorite activities are the same whether on top or bottom or close enough not to make a diffence.. needle play and mind fucks are the top two for either side.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 1:30:24 AM

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Well, I enjoy rape scenes as a bottom. . . but have never done so as a top.

As far as pain goes. . . sure, either way.

And then there are more gender specific things.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 1:33:53 AM

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quote:

Don't fuck with a menopausal sadist!

Pretty much. . . 'nough said.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 4:44:46 AM

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I know that while preferring being a submissive I have been known to swing a mean flogger and the head space is very different... but I tend to stay closer to the things I enjoy too... which can be very frustrating for a maso... I just have never needed to go there and don't understand it... so I don't take a bottom there.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 6:58:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

Ok, this is just a "for fun" question. As a Switch do you enjoy the same kinds of activities, whether top or bottom, or do you find that what you can take as a bottom is very different than what you like to dish out as a Top? Do you have limits as a bottom that you love to engage in as a top?

Nope.

My last play partner was much more advanced than I. So he could take a lot more than I could, and sometimes it was a challege to dish it out even to a level that could affect him.

I'd need a lot more experience being sub before I could be as able to take what he can.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 8:29:01 AM

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Thanks for the responses. I'm finding my dominant side emerging and it's bringing up a lot of questions for me. I don't feel I can call myself a switch yet because I've ZERO experience as a Top, but the impulses are there....

But the things I find I'm most interested in doing as a Top are the very things I was most reluctant to engage in as a sub. So I have been having a bit of a moral dilemma. (not losing sleep over it, but I have been questioning things) So I just wondered what others experienced.

Also, most of the answers seemed most focused on S&M play, but what of the other aspects such as humiliation, objectification, bondage, and power play? Are there large areas you find fulfilling in one role, but not the other?

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 8:35:51 AM

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When I first began switching I had that same dilema expecially when the slave in my collar enjoyed the crop and I personally can not have one used on me.

It took awhile for me to get passed that but now it really doesn't affect me other than in this case I am still very cautious.

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RE: Can you take what you dish out? - 5/19/2006 4:40:41 PM

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I can only dish it out.....but I do respect all of you!

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