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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:12:39 PM   
HeatherMcLeather


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My answer to all the questions (including the supplemental) is YES

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:17:18 PM   
Marisol


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Status: offline 		1. Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?

Yeah.

2. Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?

Yessums.

3. Do you masturbate in front of your partner? And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual? Is it meaningful when you do?

Not really.

4. Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person?

Yes, I have phone sex. And yes, I consider it sexual. I don't masturbate in person.

5. Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others? Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?

No, I not get off on watching my partner do that, and I won't ever. Nope, if I did. I'd consider it an involuntary orgasm.

6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?

I might be willing to do it, but I usually just like masturbating by myself. I like to focus and relax. I feel like if there is someone else there I have to put on a show. I love watching others masturbate though.

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:21:44 PM   
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1.  Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?

Absolutely! But, it doesn't all have the same meaning. Sometimes the meaning is in the fun right then and then the memories later on. Sometimes it is just beautiful.

2.  Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?

Yes.

3.  Do you masturbate in front of your partner?  And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual?  Is it meaningful when you do?

Have done, yes. Would I, again? Depends on the partner. If I had ended up with the man I fell in love with, that probably would have been the majority of our sex life, since he is crippled. So, is it sexual? YES! Meaningful? Oh yes!

4.  Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person? 

Again, have done. It was sweet. In some ways, it is better, as there is no way it is about him getting an eyeful. It is about him hearing your pleasure, and, being very vocal about his desires. Men being vocal can be a very, very good thing.

5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?

No, I do not.

6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?

Yes, and, the thought is "Eww!" When I'm with someone, not only do other people not turn me on, in that way, but, they actively turn me off. Why? Because, they are not him and nothing they say or do will make them interesting enough to waste my time on them, when it is him I want.

I've always been that way.


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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:37:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tonight i had coffee and donuts with friends. Meaningful. The cashier at Walgreens always laughs and kids me about buying so much Red Bull. Meaningful. i took a walk in the park today. Meaningful. When you think about it, there's little that's NOT meaningful.

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:44:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		1.  Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?

A resounding yes!

2.  Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?

Yes

3.  Do you masturbate in front of your partner?  And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual?  Is it meaningful when you do?

Only if he orders me to. Masturbation does not and  have never gotten me off. For me it's like trying to tickle yourself. Yes. Only in the sense that I am doing as I'm told.

4.  Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person? 

No. We've never done phone/cybersex. It does nothing at all for either of us. Yes. Same answer as above if he ever did order it.

5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?

No. Thankfully it's been a non-issue for us but if it did happen I don't think I could handle it emotionally. If I was turned on sexually or getting off  from it then I would yes.

6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?

Whatever turns people on. Like I said, it does zilch for me.



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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 10:56:41 PM   
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OK my mind is having fun running with thoughts from another thread in General Discussions.  So here's some questions to throw out there, to see what people think:

1.  Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?

Yes...I produced two beautiful daughters with my ex from that.

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2.  Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?

No

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3.  Do you masturbate in front of your partner?  And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual?  Is it meaningful when you do?

We don't. If we're together, we ain't masturbating.

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4.  Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person? 

Nope, we don't masturbate over the phone.

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5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?
We're monogamous. Either one of us having sex with another would end the relationship.

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6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?

The only time we cum is when we're together and it's not from masturbation.



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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 11:14:26 PM   
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Although, even without an orgasm, I still see it as having a physical component since there is obviously physical stimulation going on - unless a person is masturbating purely by thought alone. Apparently achievable, although I've never done it myself. ;)



You know, if I could masturbate and orgasm by thought alone, that would sure make my work days a lot more tolerable!!



*LOL* I"m afraid I wouldn't get any work done if I could orgasm by thought alone. Not that I'd spend all day doing it, just that I'm kinda brainless afterwards. :D

I saw this chicka on TLC's Strange Sex and I was thinking about her when I made the comment. But I couldn't remember what show I had seen her on.

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/30/2011 11:17:40 PM   
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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 12:03:13 AM   
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1.  Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?

Absolutely. I don't fuck around, so the sex I have with people is always meaningful.

2.  Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?

Yes. For me it's sex, but without a cock.

3.  Do you masturbate in front of your partner?  And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual?  Is it meaningful when you do?

Sometimes he tells me to - it's not something I'd initiate. It's very sexual, very hot and is also a nice demonstration of my submission.

4.  Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person? 

If I did, I'd consider it sexual. However it's not something that's part of our relationship.

5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?

I would hate to see Master having sex with others. Not only would it be the world's biggest turn-off for me, it would be the end of our relationship.

6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?

I don't get to masturbate without Master's permission. He loves to control my orgasms, and I love that he does it. When he tells me I can cum it's always very intense and as well as physical release it also gives me a lovely, calming feeling of surrender to his will.



Going back to the question about him having sex with others - I would extend that to include masturbating with others. A scenario might be: we're at a private dungeon. He plays with another sub (I'm ok with that) and becomes turned on (which usually happens). He chooses to masturbate rather than have sex with her or me. If it was just the two of us together, I'd be ok with that. If she was present too, that would be totally unacceptable to me.

I guess it boils down to jealousy/insecurity - I want him to focus his sexual attention on me, not someone else. I guess that's why poly and "sharing" isn't part of my kink make-up

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 12:32:05 AM   
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5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?

Oh my yes!!!! No, I really wouldn't consider it masturbation if I wasn't physically touching myself. Again, hopefully not TMI, but one of my favorite fantasies is watching him with another woman and having to watch but not be allowed (at first...lol) to participate or masturbate. Yep, I'd love to be a cuckold (if that's the proper term for women).




Cuckquean. And I fucking love it.

(That's the term that's used, anyway, though technically, I believe it means a woman whose spouse is unfaithful without her knowledge. That's not really how it's used in terms of the fetish, but that's the proper definition, I think.)

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 3:52:38 AM   
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I usually try not to be snarky, but sorry, some of these are really pretty dumb and obvious questions.

My answer to all the questions (including the supplemental) is YES


The context you are missing is that the OP and Hannah were having a difference of opinion here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3789403/mpage_1/tm.htm

To sum it up, Hannah's position is that online-only is only masturbating, so here the OP is attempting to find meaning in masturbation, but (IMO), leaving out the critical question - what if solo masturbation is the sole form of physical sexual expression between the couple?

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:34:31 AM   
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The context you are missing is that the OP and Hannah were having a difference of opinion here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3789403/mpage_1/tm.htm

To sum it up, Hannah's position is that online-only is only masturbating, so here the OP is attempting to find meaning in masturbation, but (IMO), leaving out the critical question - what if solo masturbation is the sole form of physical sexual expression between the couple?


It was disingenuous to leave that out.

Jerking off to someone you've never met on the internet is as meaningful as jerking off to porn. (Unless, for some reason, you happen to be the porn star's girlfriend.) In other words, it is NOT an expression of a "relationship" between two people. It is an expression of the relationship between a person and their right hand.

pam

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:35:44 AM   
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The context you are missing is that the OP and Hannah were having a difference of opinion here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3789403/mpage_1/tm.htm

To sum it up, Hannah's position is that online-only is only masturbating, so here the OP is attempting to find meaning in masturbation, but (IMO), leaving out the critical question - what if solo masturbation is the sole form of physical sexual expression between the couple?


It was disingenuous to leave that out.

Jerking off to someone you've never met on the internet is as meaningful as jerking off to porn. (Unless, for some reason, you happen to be the porn star's girlfriend.) In other words, it is NOT an expression of a"relationship" between two people. It is an expression of the relationship between yourself and your right hand.

pam


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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:39:52 AM   
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What happens when you're a lefty? :D


You go to hell. For fuck's sake, learn to mastrubate with the correct hand.

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:44:05 AM   
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You go to hell. For fuck's sake, learn to mastrubate with the correct hand.

pam


It would feel wrong...as if someone else was doing it. Would that still count as masturbation?

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:48:45 AM   
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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:51:37 AM   
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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 4:51:52 AM   
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What happens when you're a lefty? :D


You go to hell. For fuck's sake, learn to mastrubate with the correct hand.

pam



But...but...I like to change it up every so often...ya know, so it feels different! :D

I gotta admit, I'm laughing out loud here. Good one! ;)


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You go to hell. For fuck's sake, learn to mastrubate with the correct hand.

pam


It would feel wrong...as if someone else was doing it. Would that still count as masturbation?


That's the whole point! To have it feel like someone else was doing it! :D


Edited to remove a double posting of quotes.

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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 5:07:39 AM   
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1.  Is sex with your partner (or past partner, or hypothetical partner) meaningful to you?     Absolutely

2.  Do you consider masturbation to be a sexual act?   Absolutely

3.  Do you masturbate in front of your partner?  And, if so, do you consider it to be sexual?  Is it meaningful when you do?    Yes, Yes, and Yes

4.  Do you masturbate over the phone with your partner? Do you consider this sexual? Does this have any less meaning than masturbating in person?  Yes, Yes, and Yes

5.  Do you get off watching your partner have sex with others?  Would you consider that masturbation, since you are not actually being touched?   Not with other men, but I do get aroused watching her with other women.  If I am permitted to get off, yes it is masturbation

6. Any other thoughts on couples (or relationship groups) masturbating within the relationship?  Its like kissing, hugging, spanking, etc.  all part of a normal relationship (or as normal as I get).   I take pride in being able to please my Miss a great many ways and bringing her to orgasm through her clothing is one of them, but I still consider it me masturbating her.



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RE: Is masturbation still sex, and other random questio... - 7/31/2011 5:25:33 AM   
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Cuckquean. And I fucking love it.

(That's the term that's used, anyway, though technically, I believe it means a woman whose spouse is unfaithful without her knowledge. That's not really how it's used in terms of the fetish, but that's the proper definition, I think.)

Thanks. I knew there had to be an official term I didn't know about As you said, I love it!
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