tj444
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ORIGINAL: tj444 Perhaps men and society that have trained some women to expect dinner, a nice house, vacations, $$, etc as payment for sex.. where else does it come from otherwise? Tj, As a woman who had all that, a husband, house with a white picket fence (literally) vacations, $ (not loads of it but we did ok) and children - I can tell you that I never once felt as if I had bought it all with sex. We worked hard for it, both of us. It was a mutual achievement not a transaction. I've only ever dated a couple times, so I can't speak toward that. I do recall the one guy that seemed angry when he dropped me off and I didn't invite him in. Maybe he felt he was 'owed' a little someth'n but so sad for him. To not allow someone to treat you special, because you are afraid of owing them something, seems a very sad state of mind to me. Does it work in reverse? If you pay for the meal, do you expect the men to put out? WinD did the husband have the house, vacations, $ etc before you were together or after? just curious.. I was referring to some women, btw, not all women. I was thinking more the Hefner girlfriend types actually.. I dont buy men dinner so no, it doesnt work in reverse. Its men i dont know that i dont want to go for dinner with, if someone wants to date me then we can do any number of other things.. that don't cost money (or do something and go dutch on the cost of it). The point is, i want to get to know the real man (warts and all), not the facade. I want to know that he wants to get to know me, not just after pussy.. If a girl has her own money and doesnt need to depend on a guy for that and he knows that, dont you think that changes the dyanmic a bit?
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