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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 9:22:47 AM

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Seriously, though... this kind of thing won't fly for the would be sub males. They'll only do for certain women, under certain circumstances.

I have happily cooked and cleaned for other people when instructed to do so by former D's. I didn't insist on the recipients being garbed a certain way, either

Of course, I also spent many years practicing Karma Yoga, or Selfless Service (which I would argue was not in fact selfless, as I did receive a benefit.)

Perhaps a good question for Dommes of potentials who "just want to serve" is to inquire about their volunteer experience.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 10:15:58 AM

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You need to add a webcam option. Nothing sexy or overt. (ok, with you, it will be sexy, but not overt anyway, ok?) We've always considered it for pet-sitting, why not for house-cleaning by your under paid house slave?

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 10:57:28 AM

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Seriously, though... this kind of thing won't fly for the would be sub males. They'll only do for certain women, under certain circumstances. As an example: a friend in the area is in bad shape, healthwise. I asked the guys who were all, ooohhh mistressssss let me serrrrve youuuuuu to meet me so we could trot on over to Ms B's. Heavens no!! They wanted to serve MEEEEEEE not my friend! Um. Okay. If you want to be my servant, your job is to OBEY me and please me. How better to show that than by helping my longtime friend, a woman who NEEDS HELP.

Charity is so unsexy.

Charity isn't always unsexy, but it certainly can be. Vanillas seldom go for partners on the basis of charity - because they feel sorry for them - Gawd, most would be horrified at the idea.

Of course they'll only do it for certain women and under certain circumstances. The woman's going to have to give the submale the buzz - they have to click in a D/s way. That's why the employer has to be carefully chosen.

Or, more correctly, you at least have one employer who clicks for you in that way. What I'm thinking about isn't just about pleasure, it's business too. Assume a bloke who's unemployed. He takes various cleaning jobs (which, here, can get quite a good packet *so long as you're self-employed* and *do not* go with a cleaning company). He gets a hint of the right vibe with certain employer, he focuses his attention on the work he does for her, the way he treats her, and the rates he charges.

Hmmm, It could take some skill to pull it off. It's all about getting that radar working, reading signs, responding to signs. But it's also about getting used to working and getting some money for it. Counting on the fact that you're not always, all of the time, going to be getting a sub-buzz. For perhaps the bulk of the time, you're just working to make money.

I've often wondered if people who go into professional service, and make careers out of it, are put together in that way: that is, they blend sub orientation - and maybe the occasional sub-buzz - with a way to earn money.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 11:36:50 AM

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could I hire you primarily for intellectual discourse, with the cleaning stuff as an aside?

seriously?

while I freely admit I lust for your body, your brain is what TRULY grabs me...

I mean, if you were close enough to make that even an option... *sigh*

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 11:52:48 AM

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could I hire you primarily for intellectual discourse, with the cleaning stuff as an aside?

seriously?

while I freely admit I lust for your body, your brain is what TRULY grabs me...

I mean, if you were close enough to make that even an option... *sigh*

Aww Greedy. You flatter me so much I feel as flatter as a pancaker.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:03:38 PM

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I've often wondered if people who go into professional service, and make careers out of it, are put together in that way: that is, they blend sub orientation - and maybe the occasional sub-buzz - with a way to earn money.

I did get more job satisfaction as an underpaid assistant (Administrative Assistant/Executive Assistant/Research Assistant/Office Manager) than I do working in my fields.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:04:44 PM

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FINE suck up to Greedy! I'm the one with the PARROT!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:07:05 PM

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Yes!

Fight, fight, fight!! The winner, you or Greedy, can carry me off over her shoulder!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:11:10 PM

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When I was doing postgrad studies, I had a job as a cleaner. It was at a school sports hall, in the late evening. It was part of my job to clean the women's changing room after the female teachers had used it.

Fun! I cleaned it absolutely perfectly. OK, I stopped just this side of quite weird (flowers in a vase - um, no, a bit too much) . . . but, hell, I enjoyed that a lot for the time I was there . . . .

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:11:11 PM

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HAHHAHHAA!! I could snap Greedy like a TWIG!! But she is my heartsister, so we will SHARE.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:19:50 PM

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YAY FOR SHARING PEON!!!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:21:00 PM

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YAY FOR SHARING PEON!!!

Like you thought I wouldn't?

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 1:00:30 PM

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nah.. we'd already established THAt... I was just cheering about it!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 2:15:15 PM

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I agree with most of the comments in this thread. FWIW, I'm not a freeloader, and in previous live-in situations, I've paid my own way, as well as doing most of the housework and yardwork. In any case, if I was with someone I loved and cared about, the last thing I'd want to be is a financial burden (or a burden of any kind).

However, I can sort of understand the frustration in the context of a personals site where the participants are ostensibly looking for like-minded companions and friends for social contacts and possibly to pursue a relationship. (This is no reflection on the message board participants, as I realize the message board is different from the profile side. Right now, my profile says "under construction" because I'm not actually looking at the moment. But I still like the boards and like to lurk and post on occasion.)

But I can partially understand the OP's complaint, at least in noticing the same familiar pattern when one browses through the profiles. Obviously, money is a practical concern, and it's certainly going to come up at some point after one makes initial contact. But when it's brought up right off the bat in a personal ad, it might be considered analogous to a man posting an ad with pictures of his member. It seems unnecessarily crass.

One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

In my mind, what is personal should be separated from what is business, and it seems to me that allowing business ads in a free personals site kind of defeats the whole purpose. Especially since these business owners are getting free advertising. I would never judge what people do for a living or how they earn their daily bread, but business is business.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 2:46:32 PM

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I agree with most of the comments in this thread. FWIW, I'm not a freeloader, and in previous live-in situations, I've paid my own way, as well as doing most of the housework and yardwork. In any case, if I was with someone I loved and cared about, the last thing I'd want to be is a financial burden (or a burden of any kind).

However, I can sort of understand the frustration in the context of a personals site where the participants are ostensibly looking for like-minded companions and friends for social contacts and possibly to pursue a relationship. (This is no reflection on the message board participants, as I realize the message board is different from the profile side. Right now, my profile says "under construction" because I'm not actually looking at the moment. But I still like the boards and like to lurk and post on occasion.)

But I can partially understand the OP's complaint, at least in noticing the same familiar pattern when one browses through the profiles. Obviously, money is a practical concern, and it's certainly going to come up at some point after one makes initial contact. But when it's brought up right off the bat in a personal ad, it might be considered analogous to a man posting an ad with pictures of his member. It seems unnecessarily crass.

One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

In my mind, what is personal should be separated from what is business, and it seems to me that allowing business ads in a free personals site kind of defeats the whole purpose. Especially since these business owners are getting free advertising. I would never judge what people do for a living or how they earn their daily bread, but business is business.

You I like.

You aren't whining, you are just pointing out an issue with the fact that many proDommes are using this site, instead of Dommes who are looking for relationships. I can see how that is frustrating.

You get the big boy chair and a hug.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 3:05:51 PM

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I agree with most of the comments in this thread. FWIW, I'm not a freeloader, and in previous live-in situations, I've paid my own way, as well as doing most of the housework and yardwork. In any case, if I was with someone I loved and cared about, the last thing I'd want to be is a financial burden (or a burden of any kind).

However, I can sort of understand the frustration in the context of a personals site where the participants are ostensibly looking for like-minded companions and friends for social contacts and possibly to pursue a relationship. (This is no reflection on the message board participants, as I realize the message board is different from the profile side. Right now, my profile says "under construction" because I'm not actually looking at the moment. But I still like the boards and like to lurk and post on occasion.)

But I can partially understand the OP's complaint, at least in noticing the same familiar pattern when one browses through the profiles. Obviously, money is a practical concern, and it's certainly going to come up at some point after one makes initial contact. But when it's brought up right off the bat in a personal ad, it might be considered analogous to a man posting an ad with pictures of his member. It seems unnecessarily crass.

One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

In my mind, what is personal should be separated from what is business, and it seems to me that allowing business ads in a free personals site kind of defeats the whole purpose. Especially since these business owners are getting free advertising. I would never judge what people do for a living or how they earn their daily bread, but business is business.

You I like.

You aren't whining, you are just pointing out an issue with the fact that many proDommes are using this site, instead of Dommes who are looking for relationships. I can see how that is frustrating.

You get the big boy chair and a hug.

I agree. It's true, there are many scammers pretending to be prodommes. (I have no issue with professional dommes, they earn their money), to the point where now I think on this site, a prodomme is assumed to be a scammer. (Well, see above.)

But (no, I do not have a big butt), there are also many many porn addled male subs who think all fem dommes should be little more than fetish delivery devices. Weeding them out from the male subs who have managed to pull their heads out of their asses is not all that easy, either.

If you are looking for a male dom or a female sub or, whatever, having to weed out the wheat from the chaff is a struggle. You can whine about it, or realize, like I do, how wonderful it is that there are so many newbies w/o a clue. It means BDSM is moving more and more into the mainstream. Since I remember back in the day when you had to know the secret handshake to even talk about BDSM, I have to think it's an improvement.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 3:31:35 PM

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You I like.

You aren't whining, you are just pointing out an issue with the fact that many proDommes are using this site, instead of Dommes who are looking for relationships. I can see how that is frustrating.

You get the big boy chair and a hug.

Thanks.

There are some rare occasions where I might whine, but I usually prefer beer to whine.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 9:35:20 PM

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One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

I suggest that and a feature to sort out married/in a relationship.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 9:51:45 PM

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One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

Umm, the ads pay for part of the site, I think.

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I suggest that and a feature to sort out married/in a relationship.

But what if someone lies? Or are you perchance clairvoyant?

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 9:58:15 PM

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One possible solution to the problem might be to separate (or eliminate) any ads which indicate that they're strictly here for commercial purposes.

Umm, the ads pay for part of the site, I think.

He's talking about people who are using profiles as ads, not the side of the page ads. Those people aren't paying.

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