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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 5:56:29 PM

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I should have said that they are now confused and questioning their sexual orientation; that is what prompted the question.
I like getting a strap-on up my pussy, I guess by their reasoning that would mean I am really straight. Perhaps ask them this question <gotta love that Socratic method!!>:

If a woman likes having a man go down on her does that make her a lesbian?

After all, lesbians spend an inordinate amount of their sexual play time eating pussy, the four of us have devoted most of the last 8 hours to doing just that, so getting your pussy eaten is obviously a "Lesbian" thing.

^ This is how I tried to explain it to someone. I like a man doing it, have had a woman do it, still like a man doing it better. Someone once told me it made me gay just because I let a woman do it. I couldn't seem to get it through his head that it was the action not the gender, and I still like it more when a man does it. I have a pet that very much likes anal(getting and giving) He also likes chicks with dicks, but has not attraction to anyone that actually looks or acts like the average male. He is stragight. When he came to me he told me other "dommes" had told him he was gay. I told him they are wrong. Homosexual is definded as being attracted to the same gender(as per the normal of what that gender seems to be) So he is straight.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 5:57:32 PM

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 6:22:32 PM

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I don't consider myself Gay or Bi. I'd like to think that I've at least put thought into exploring my own sexual orientation, but I haven't experimented with the same gender either. I don't find men attractive, they don't light any fires in me or drawn my attention. I also generally find penis's(?) boring... except perhaps my own when ma'am has been out of town for to long, but I digress. All of that aside I really enjoy it when ma'am penetrates me. I enjoy feelings of degradation and humiliation that it brings up in me. Similar to what Peon said... it's "supposed" to be so wrong for a guy that it makes it a lot of fun. I know ma'am enjoys it and she often gets carried away, which is even more exciting for me because when she gets carried away I know it's all about her pleasure because she go until she is satisfied. Now that's a lot of enjoyment and action on our parts, but that doesn't mean I'm gay it just means we enjoy an anal aspect of our relationship.

So I guess I consider myself pretty strait despite the anal penetration, strap-on fellatio, and feminization scenes ma'am and I both enjoy... mostly because of what I opened my post with. Men just don't light any fires for me and neither do their appendages. Women on the other hand. they almost all light my fire.. especially when they are in charge of something.

Not sure if my point of view is any help, but it seemed like an interesting question and you certainly seemed interested in feedback.

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Edit - Spelling & Grammar (btw what is the plural for penis? O.o )

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 7:30:35 PM

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I like getting a strap-on up my pussy, I guess by their reasoning that would mean I am really straight. Perhaps ask them this question <gotta love that Socratic method!!>:

If a woman likes having a man go down on her does that make her a lesbian?

No.

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so getting your pussy eaten is obviously a "Lesbian" thing.

The correlative to that is having my dick sucked makes me gay. Oh well...We're all a little gay.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 8:04:33 PM

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This question reminds me a debate many, many years ago that was taking place in the pages of lesbian 'zines. That's right, those things made of paper and you actually turned the pages..... I digress....

anyway, there was much debate about anal sex when a lesbian wrote a letter to one of the advice columnists, concerned that because she liked anal sex, that it didn't make it lesbian sex she was having. A good friend of mine was the columnist, and responded (this is paraphrased--I don't have the 'zine anymore):

paraphrased: Sister, you have this thing called a butthole. It's on your body and you're a lesbian. You got this girlfriend who's sticking things in your butthole. Trust me, it's lesbian sex.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 8:15:31 PM

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I just came back to say I'm sorry for all the typos in my last post. I have no idea why my keyboard hates me, or why I didn't reread it. But lord was my typing off. Sorry.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 8:23:23 PM

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 8:45:38 PM

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All I know is, my sub and I are both curious about strap-on play. I've spent weeks trying to decide which one to get, I finally ordered a set and an "Everything You Need to Know" about it book, and we're both looking forward to trying it out. I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting for that package. lol

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 9:13:03 PM

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I can't believe I am asking this; and I hope, I sincerely hope, that no one takes offense at the question that I am going to ask. My curiosity is killing me though.

Ok.

The question centers around submissive men; I am asking here because I figure that most submissive men read the Mistress forums, and because the Mistress's are just as knowledgeable in this area as the men would be.

Submissive men who are straight; and by straight I mean, totally straight, with no bi-sexual urges at all; that is who this aimed at mainly.

(Please forgive me if my knowledge in this is way off base; what's more, feel free to set me straight if I am way off base )

It's my understanding that many Dominant woman 'play' with their subs/slaves? Correct?
It is also my understanding that this play sometimes involves the use of dildo's or butt plugs? Correct?

Well, for a man who is submissve, but totally and completely straight, how does this integrate into your life with your partner/play partner, etc?

I guess what I am asking, to be blunt, is "how do you handle being sexually used in that way, IF you are straight'?

( And I know that many of the answers are going to be 'because my Mistress wishes me to do do these things" but, I am trying to get away from the standard answers like that. I am truly interested in how the men ACTUALLY feel about this part of their life, the feelings that accompany them, and how they handle them . If that makes any sense.)

Again, I am not trying to offend; just very curious.

I have read through a lot of the replies. Really do not see anything speaking about how pleasureable it can be yet does mean I have bi-sexual urges/

I am totally straight. Nothing wrong with the bi thing for those who enjoy it. So why do I enjoy butt plugs & strap-on play. Well the best reason is that is feels good. The anus is very erotic. The same muscles used in ejeculation also encompass the anus. Playing with those muscles is stimulation. Now I suspect the question you are getting is what is different between a strap-on/butt plug versus a guy? The answer to this is simple. The woman. When I am being "Dommed" much of the physical stimulation comes from the body, but the mental stimluation comes from the physical touch of the woman. The mental aspect of the scene is just as big as the physical aspect. I, in no way, take strap-on / butt plug play to be any type of homo-sexual play at all. The thoughts the go through my mind are more on the order of the Domme having total control and is free to do as she pleases. Not sure if that makes sense to you. I just do not equate it at all to being used by a man.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 9:17:04 PM

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I guess what I am asking, to be blunt, is "how do you handle being sexually used in that way, IF you are straight'?

I'll preface my answer by saying that I hate threads that basically ask "Does doing XYZ make me gay?"

IMO, "gayness" is not determined by physical activites. Rather, it is determined by one's mental state. I'm sure that some will immediately argue against that POV, but let me clarify what I mean.

I am completely straight. I have no interest in interacting with another male sexually. I feel no attraction towards men. I don't fantasize about men. In fact, every Domme that I've ever been with knows that male-on-male sex is a hard limit for me.

Despite that, if someone were to offer me $10,000,000 to suck a cock, I would probably suck it. I wouldn't enjoy the act. But to me, it would be a simple matter of cost versus benefit. The benefit in this instance is very clear. To me, the benefits outweigh the cost, so I would do it. But I wouldn't feel the least bit "gay", even though I had performed an act that some would say is "gay". As I mentioned earlier, IMO gayness is a mental state. And my mental state would not have changed. I would still be sexually attracted to women exclusively.

As far as the specific question in your OP, I don't feel homosexual if a woman takes me with a strap-on. The fact that it is a woman performing the act eliminates that train of thought (at least for me it does).

Frankly, I don't like the physical sensation of strap-on sex. Some people do. I don't. However, I do enjoy the feeling of submission that it gives me. IMO, there is something inherently dominant about f*cking someone else. When a man mounts a woman and f*cks her, it is a very dominant position. Similarly, if two lesbians are having strap-on sex, I would assume that the one wearing the strap-on feels more dominant, aggressive, and in control. The one receiving the strap-on probably feels like she's in a more submissive position, as well as the more passive role.

That's how it makes me feel. The idea that a woman is f*cking me makes me feel very submissive. She is doing something to me that is one of nature's clearest shows of dominance. Moreover, she is doing something that men are supposed to do to women, not vice versa. The mere fact that she is doing it to me serves as a mental and physical reminder of her dominant position in our relationship. I am hers to do with as she will. She can (and will) f*ck me anytime she wants to. The act has both literal and figurative meaning.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/5/2011 9:43:58 PM

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Well, I'll be damned. I ain't got ten mil.

How about I just grab you by the scruff of the neck and tell you to take it just 'cause it gets Me off?

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/6/2011 7:35:34 AM

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Well, I'll be damned. I ain't got ten mil.

How about I just grab you by the scruff of the neck and tell you to take it just 'cause it gets Me off?

For you, I'll discount it to only $9 million.

But seriously, I've publicly stated that if I had the right relationship with a Domme, I would probably suck a cock for her enjoyment. Once again, it wouldn't be an act of "gayness", it would be an act of submission.

That example always causes mixed reactions, so I decided to use my $10 million example instead. I thought that it was less likely to derail the thread. But yes, your example is a good one as well.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/6/2011 8:10:12 AM

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A slave is to do these things simply for having been instructed to do so. The sexual preferences of a slave are of no consequence.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/6/2011 10:48:22 AM

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It feels good to please someone you love. It's not that complicated.

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A slave is to do these things simply for having been instructed to do so. The sexual preferences of a slave are of no consequence.

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That's not entirely true except in a fantasy setting... but just like in any other relationship you should definitely take your partner into consideration.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/6/2011 11:39:29 AM

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I want to thank you all very much; not only was it imformative, but I found myself laughing along the way too.

The person with whom this discussion originally started, I had him come and read what was posted here. He told me that while the answers did not cover all his questions that he had, they did help him to understand a bit more. So for that, thank you all.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/6/2011 8:17:22 PM

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That's not entirely true except in a fantasy setting... but just like in any other relationship you should definitely take your partner into consideration.

Pst! It's not a fantasy setting to her, she has two slaves and those are the rules they live by.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/7/2011 6:17:00 AM

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Specific sexual acts don't necessarily make someone hetero or homo sexual.. or even bisexual for that matter...

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/7/2011 8:02:43 AM

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I am a very straight male and have been taken by a strap on several times by the women I have served. . It is not pleasurable for me in any way. It is not something that I have enjoyed in any way. Lady Pact is right. I endured it because I was told I would endure it.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/9/2011 6:35:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

I can't believe I am asking this; and I hope, I sincerely hope, that no one takes offense at the question that I am going to ask. My curiosity is killing me though.

Ok.

The question centers around submissive men; I am asking here because I figure that most submissive men read the Mistress forums, and because the Mistress's are just as knowledgeable in this area as the men would be.

Submissive men who are straight; and by straight I mean, totally straight, with no bi-sexual urges at all; that is who this aimed at mainly.

(Please forgive me if my knowledge in this is way off base; what's more, feel free to set me straight if I am way off base )

It's my understanding that many Dominant woman 'play' with their subs/slaves? Correct?
It is also my understanding that this play sometimes involves the use of dildo's or butt plugs? Correct?

Well, for a man who is submissve, but totally and completely straight, how does this integrate into your life with your partner/play partner, etc?

I guess what I am asking, to be blunt, is "how do you handle being sexually used in that way, IF you are straight'?

( And I know that many of the answers are going to be 'because my Mistress wishes me to do do these things" but, I am trying to get away from the standard answers like that. I am truly interested in how the men ACTUALLY feel about this part of their life, the feelings that accompany them, and how they handle them . If that makes any sense.)

Again, I am not trying to offend; just very curious.

Excellent questions.

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RE: A very Awkward question... - 9/9/2011 10:52:58 PM

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it just feels good, can be very humiliating, which is another turn on and it feels so special knowing She is getting enjoyment and my boundaries are being stretched...err as well as other parts of me.

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