crazyml
Posts: 5568
Joined: 7/3/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: strongbottom88
quote:
ORIGINAL: crazyml
quote:
ORIGINAL: Arpig
quote:
"how do you handle being sexually used in that way, IF you are straight'? Being anally penetrated has about as much to do with being heterosexual as does eating mashed potatoes.
I think this is a bit of an over statement. While I agree that for many men the connection between anal penetration and homosexuality is pretty slim, it's very disingenuous to claim there is no connection at all.
Of course there's an association! A man who takes it up the bum? Come on!
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your statment. I am more curious about what you base the association with being gay on. Is it a sort of pornogrpahic or visual thing where the image of a woman penetrating a man just appears associated with being gay to you? Is is the entire concept of a man being sexually submissive to a woman that you associate with the term gay? Is it just a man allowing the specific act of penetration from a woman in his submission? Obviously, for purposes of this site, you have to pick an orientation and I picked straight because every person I have ever been physically or emotionally attracted to in vanilla or bdsm terms has been female. (Hey if that changes tomorrow I will have a whole lot more potential play partners - just not seeing it in the cards at this point in my life) If someone wants to respectfully give me another label because I am submissive to some women sexually or in bdsm terms or because I have allowed myself to be anally penetrated by some dominant women or female tops I do not have a real issue with that. I'm into what I'm into and beyond that it is all basically semantics.
First, let me make it clear - I wouldn't, not for a second, make the assumption that a guy who enjoyed being fucked with a strap-on must be gay, or even that he might have some gay tendencies (See my conversation with Heather after the post you've replied to).
I think the association comes from a number of things...
In our, still unevolved, culture there is still a presumption that "penetration" is a man's thing. Now trust me, I've signed up to the 21st century, and I think this presumption is silly. Down with the patriarchy, say I! If you accept that this presumption (no matter how silly it is) still exists then there's an association that could be drawn (not "a definite association" not a "rational association", just one that could be drawn) with being penetrated in the ass by a dildo and being penetrated in the ass by a big ole cock.
This thesis is supported by the fact that many dildos are designed to look exactly like cocks. Although, as we've learned from the wonderful Heather and LadyHib, the real dildo connoisseurs eschew the cock facsimile for something much more fit for purpose ("Lavendar" is a wonderful colour).
I think for some men, the connection between penetration with a dildo and a man's cock is part of the enjoyment - they (being victims of an outmoded patriarchal view of society) - find the association humiliating and erotic. I don't think these men are either gay or bi either - it's the humiliation they (wrongly in my view) perceive that's the turn-on.
So I made this (utterly unsubstantiated) claim...
quote:
I don't think the association is valid or rational, but I'd bet if you asked a bunch of regular dudes whether taking it up the ass with a strap-on was a little bit gay a majority would say yes.
Heather took up the challenge and conducted some research that seems to indicate that my wild stab wasn't too far off.
To be clear - I don't think that enjoying being penetrated with a cock-shaped object makes a man remotely gay. but I can see how some might make an association (and I'd feel bound to point out to them that it's silly but...).
As it happens, I don't think that enjoying being feminised necessarily a dude gay or bi, and I really do believe that there are cases where men that enjoy forced bi aren't the least bit bi - I think for some men the humiliation is the driver not the idea of chowing on a fellow's cock.
And (and I'd hope that the people who know me on the board would know this goes without saying)... who gives a shit anyway, if you're gay, bi or straight, it so doesn't matter to me. A person's gender, sexual orientation, or preference for dominance or submission has no bearing whatsoever their value as a person.
Although, in my experience, if you want your house redecorated, you get your gay male friends to choose the colour scheme, but leave it to your lesbian friends to do the actual painting. Never the other way around.
_____________________________
Remember.... There's always somewhere on the planet where it's jackass o'clock.
|
RE: A very Awkward question... - 
Profile
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread