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akisha -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 8:51:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Whew! I thought I smelled smoke. For a minute there I thought France was burning again.

It's prolly been done but I will toss out the thyroid and other health complications that cause obesity.  


Add to that the people that eat healthy, work out regulary and still do not fit the "perfect scale"

Some of us will just never be a size 6.




MasterStoney442 -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 8:52:23 PM)

Reflective , I did not any where say my slave was fat . I have not said any thing demeaning about her . Where you got that from I do not know .  If all I have done is make things easyer on her . But you nor any one eles lives in our house , so you can not say what goes on here . You can however state your opinion , that is your right . As well as it is mine . So be it .
 
 
Life will go on




mistoferin -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 8:57:28 PM)

Well you are just a charming treasure aren't you? Is this going to become a habit, Rose will come on and post something that gets her in over her head and then you will ride in like the cavalry and tell everyone they are giving the wrong responses to it? I think that I hear an echo of the "breaking" post from last week. No offense but, her post was pretty detailed and thought out, I would think she is capable of thinking for herself and answering her own posts. Or are those things that you just "do" for her too?




Wulfchyld -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 9:01:04 PM)

mist, do you serve white or red wine with roast Dom? *evil grin*




mistoferin -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 9:06:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

mist, do you serve white or red wine with roast Dom? *evil grin*


why red of course....white only goes well with sweet, tender white meat dishes....not tough old red meat[;)]




Reflectivesoul -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 9:08:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442

Fro all you people out there . Don't beat up my slave due to something I said . Yes I have told her that I do not like fat people . But its due to The vast magority of them are to Damn lazy to do any thing about it . I am not talking of the ones that may have a medecal contition that prevents them from doing any thing about it .But again it is not my slave rose that said the fat part . She is just telling what is on her mind .
 
We have talked about her wieght for a long time . She sined the contract knowing all that was and is involved it . And yes she is lazy in that part . But it is me that takes care of that . I am her Master .
 
She my slave is trying ti understand things that I like or do not like . Yes she does have a heard time with a lot of things I do and say , but I am her Master .
 
She my slave rose has 4 kids . How did she get these kids ? Well the answer is simple . She laid down and did what most people do . Does this mean she has to be over wieght ? Does this mean she has to be leazy in that department? I think not . I have taken control of the kids . The men that are there fathers are worthless and do not care for them or about them . Wait I will say one of the men do not . But through all of this ,does this give her the right to be lazy in this department ? NO. As she told me her Master , she never had a problem getting what she wanted . Well I will say this , She is right as are most women , If they are willing to lay down they get what they want . I know this sounds harsh but it is true .
As her Master I* want things my way and will get them . as My slave Tis her job to do the things that make me happy . I also make things easy on her . She does not have to deal with her unruly kids . I do that for her . She does not have to do house work , her kids do that , she does not have to do dishes ,her kids do that . She does not have to worry about paying the bills on time ,I do that . But enuf of that .
 
My slave is 5'7" tall and wieghs 175 or so . I want her down to 143.  All she has to do is diet and exsize. Sorry about the spelling .  And I do some of that with her . I want my slave to look and feel the best that she can . Whats wrong with that ?



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  Reflective , I did not any where say my slave was fat . I have not said any thing demeaning about her . Where you got that from I do not know .  If all I have done is make things easyer on her . But you nor any one eles lives in our house , so you can not say what goes on here . You can however state your opinion , that is your right . As well as it is mine . So be it .


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Master and I have worked out a routine for this girl to lose this weight because of my self esteem and health issues. Well and because Master hates fat ppl.

Master and I just discussed this issue and He says I am doing it for me. And I know I am not.  

 
Where I get my ideas from..... see highlighted QUOTES from you and her... Do you really think throwing her personal business out in front of a whole community of people, isnt demeaning to her? Do you really think throwing it at her helps her self esteem? ( and dont sit there and pull the I dont say that to her bullshit either, because if you say it to everyone here you damn well say it to her too.... )
 
~RS~




Wulfchyld -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 9:10:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

why red of course....white only goes well with sweet, tender white meat dishes....not tough old red meat[;)]


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FelinePersuasion -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 10:17:15 PM)

Implying that women will get what they want only if they open their legs for it is also a crock of shit. I'm getting what I want right now in my life, I'm sending in volunteer applications to work with children who need me, no sex fucking or laying down involved at all.

I'll also be working down at the SPCA to help the little animals, I didn't have to lay down either,

I got the bf I wanted and I didn't have to fuck him to get him either, Infact we were friends for a year in a half before anything remotely sexual happend, and to be exact it was almost a year and four months before sex stuff.




Chaingang -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:01:11 PM)

American are fat because they have a poor relationship to food and simply do not exercise enough. They eat very few things (finicky!) and do not often prepare their meals for themselves. Store bought prepared food, fast food, and even most higher quality restaurant food are all basically crap. The overuse of sugar, salt, and fat; the use of fake garbage like corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated fat; and a whole host of deflavorizing and processing techniques have left our food in state where it must be re-"enriched" back again with its goodness with fake nutrition, fake flavors, and fake colors. Food is nature's way of saying "Eat me!" so you just have to get into it hardcore - nothing else will do. Count your calories and fat grams. Avoid too many carbs, but eat of everything in moderation. Vegetables and fruits you can very nearly go nuts on (go easier on the actual nuts). Walk 30 minutes several times a week and stretch out and you should be fine.

Don't allow food to become overloaded with other meanings. The only truly appropriate emotional response to any food should be as a response to its flavor - love it, like it, or hate it - but only for what it actually is as food. Avoid foods that you want to eat because you are sad. Don't eat "comfort food" - food is not your mom, it's nutrition. Anxiety is not the same as hunger. Eat when you are hungry. Make an effort to note your point of satiety and then eat no more.

Don't starve yourself either - beauty should be seen as a byproduct of good health and an overall sense of well-being. Furthermore, starving yourself tells your body there isn't enough food and warns it to start storing whatever calories it can spare as fat. You don't want that either.

Hydrate. Drink plenty of water throughout the whole day. Drink anything else sparingly.

Use one of those online weight calculators but don't be afraid if you are even 20 pounds overweight - statistically that's practically meaningless. If you feel good, eat good, and do some basic exercises - it's all going to be just fine. Good health can be forever; youthful beauty has a shelf life - start preparing now. Even so, I still think beauty comes in all shapes, sizes, colors, and ages.

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ORIGINAL: rose442
Well and because Master hates fat ppl.


Lovely. If this merely means he sexually prefers people with trimmer figures, I don't have a problem with that. If he actually disrespects people because of their appearance, ridicules them, etc - then he's an asshat.




Reflectivesoul -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:04:45 PM)

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Lovely. If this merely means he sexually prefers people with trimmer figures, I don't have a problem with that. If he actually disrespects people because of their appearance, ridicules them, etc - then he's an asshat.


see above posts .... nods




Lordandmaster -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:09:51 PM)

That's all good advice.  I'd add a few comments.  Don't feel you can eat any and all fruits and vegetables without limits.  You'll turn orange if you eat too many carrots, for example.  But few Americans are anywhere near the point of consuming too much in the way of fruits and vegetables.

Some nuts are much better than others.  Walnuts are good, cashews not so good.

A recent study has challenged this, but it's still likely that moderate drinking is good for your health.  MODERATE.  That means one or at most two glasses a day.  Red wine is best.

Oh, and eat fish.




Wulfchyld -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:14:36 PM)

Well you know why fish are thin don't you?




ownedgirlie -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:25:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442
All she has to do is diet and exsize. Sorry about the spelling .  And I do some of that with her . I want my slave to look and feel the best that she can . Whats wrong with that ?


I have read through this entire thread, not sure why, and all I can come up with is...damnation toward "lazy" people, coming from one too "lazy" to look up how to spell exercise...

Odd...very odd.  Perhaps it is my mood on this late night.





Reflectivesoul -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:29:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442
All she has to do is diet and exsize. Sorry about the spelling .  And I do some of that with her . I want my slave to look and feel the best that she can . Whats wrong with that ?


I have read through this entire thread, not sure why, and all I can come up with is...damnation toward "lazy" people, coming from one too "lazy" to look up how to spell exercise...

Odd...very odd.  Perhaps it is my mood on this late night.




and a lot of other words too.....




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:33:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LostSkittles
My response to this isn't going to be liked but i really don't care.
An ex i was with, wanted me to lose weight last year. I wanted to model and go back to professional dancing, he wanted a skinnier submissive.

so i lost 50 pounds doing a daily no carb/low carb diet..moderate exercise and just cut a ton of the sugar.

Him and i are no longer together.. But im still benefiting from the weight loss..so im all for owners helping their submissives lose weight and i think submissives should put an effort for it...for their health.

And to bring up the answer to the last questions..this lifestyle attracts what society didnt want sadly..alot of people are in it for the wrong reasons. and some of it does have to do alot with looks whether or not its conscious or not..however, you being an individual have a right to ignore anyone..and choose what you want.
I don't dislike your reply at all.
What I don't support is any sort of self hate or suggestion that people who are not slim should hate themselves and disappear.   What I hate even more is some girl with insecurity issues coming to try and tell me how I ought to live or what size I ought to be.   FYI:  I was recruited to be a model at this size a few years back;  I didn't go simply because that isn't my thing, and I have a job I find more dignified personally.

Perhaps you needed a master because you hated yourself and didn't feel you could diet and lose weight by yourself, but I certainly didn't come into this lifestyle because of my weight or because I lack men wanting to hit this any day of the week.  I don't do a lot of men because of personal choice, not lack of opportunity, lmao.   M




ownedgirlie -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:38:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442
All she has to do is diet and exsize. Sorry about the spelling .  And I do some of that with her . I want my slave to look and feel the best that she can . Whats wrong with that ?


I have read through this entire thread, not sure why, and all I can come up with is...damnation toward "lazy" people, coming from one too "lazy" to look up how to spell exercise...

Odd...very odd.  Perhaps it is my mood on this late night.




and a lot of other words too.....


I noticed the others but was too "lazy" to type them all out [:D]




UtopianRanger -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:41:19 PM)

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Some men like a little meat on the bone.  I am healthy; neither my doctor nor I am concerned about my weight. 


Yes we absolutely do -  I love women with little ''meat'' on them! And its great when you can take them out to a nice place and they don't eat like a bird. Oh yeah.... I like when they order dessert, too! HAR!!


 - R




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:42:03 PM)

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I noticed the others but was too "lazy" to type them all out [:D]
Is too lazy the problem or not knowing better?
I liked this best:
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She does work 40 hours a week on third shit
[sm=biggrin.gif]  M




UtopianRanger -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/22/2006 11:59:58 PM)

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I consider myself a bit overweight.  My view on this matter is more that I am so physically active doing various things, that any extra pounds I have on me (that is not muscle) is just making it more difficult to do what I do.  I was grumpy about weighing approximately 209# the last few times I measured my weight, but at 6'1 with a BMI of 27, I imagine I am being ridiculous about it.


 It's all about the shape and type of body one has. I've seen some women who look like dynamite at 5'8 210, while others look terrible as if they don't take care of themselves at all.

At 5'10 1/2 203 lbs, a 31-32 inch waist and 47 inch chest, with 17 1/4 inch arms - I think the OP has been smoking something funny or staying up way to late.


JMHO


 - R




ladyseekinglord -> RE: subs and slaves weight? (5/23/2006 12:07:34 AM)

I totally agree that learning to love yourself, as you are, is most important.  I am still working on that.  My childhood was kind of messed up, and it sort of dawned on me a couple of years ago, that no matter what weight I have been, I have felt hugely fat most of my life.  I believe that can be attributed to messages I received as a child.  Anyhow, I have never been skinny and probably never will be, but even when I was just a little overweight, my body image was the same as it was when I was very overweight.  I have worked through a lot of those issues though, and feel better about myself today than I ever have, and really, that has nothing to do with my weight. 

As far as the connection to submissives & slaves being overweight, who knows.  I know that many of us are probably care takers, and many with that personality type tend to focus on everyone else instead of taking care of themselves and many stuff emotional issues/pain by eating. 

Everyone is different, of course.  For me, I do not like being overweight.  At the same time, I want to be loved and accepted for who I am, just as I am.  I accept and love others as they are, flaws and all, and I deserve no less.  I think some flaws just bother us more in other people than other flaws do. 

Sorry for the incoherent rambling, but I just spent 4 hours working on a paper for school, and I'm near brain-dead.

lady





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