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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 10:57:02 AM

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I am in a very fullfilling relationship. Thank God my Master doesnt put me down or make me feel inadequate. My condolences to your slave. Maybe you need to read what she wrote. You obviously make her feel inadequate.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 11:08:53 AM

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Proprietrix and all the others that have asked that Question ( do I hate my slaverose442) NO I do not . And she knows this all to well.

I know all you that have replied to this post must be in a perfect relasionship . It seems that way to me . Oh but wait I must be reading the wrong post LOL. I should have read all the ones that are of Perfect relasionships .Then just mybe I would know how to do this LOL .

Hell I do not like Bush and he's the Pres. Oh damn shoot me .

Perfect.... no.... but I guarantee the majority here would rather be alone than to put up with some jackass putting us down all the damn time. If someone EVER came to me about my sons dad or how they had to take care of my unrly child, he'd find a foot planted up his ass. How arrogant and how dare you say something about her children and their fathers, that is NOT your place. Who the hell do you think you are? What you think you have some right to brow beat her and her children under the guise of being a master? You talk about her as if she's trash and certainly her children are included in that as well. Maybe the reason you chose her is because she didnt have the best self image and she didnt feel like she could do better..... I mean an almost 30 year gap in age.... what the matter couldnt find a woman your age that would take you cause you're an oppinionated jackass? You're more overweight than she is. You should count your blessings that she even hangs around. She is a beautiful woman... I took the time to go look at her profile and there are probably a LOT of men that would be honored to have 5 minutes of her time. Instead she's stuck with you that degrades her.... poor woman, I just hope that when she comes to her senses and walks out on you that it hasnt caused her and her kids so much emotional damage that they cant see past your narrowminded views.... and you call yourself a Master, you should be ashamed of yourself.... oh wait better yet maybe you should hit the gym... work some of your fat off your ass..... oh but wait I forgot you're perfect huh and " only making life easier for her"......

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 11:18:19 AM

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Hey, that made me think of a new tag line for you...lol.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 11:41:32 AM

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*Gathers up all the uncollard sub/slaves and marches them off to his PHAT farm*

Ahhhhh..... the good life.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 12:10:07 PM

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<<< can't help but compare the profiles. Rose says: No Poly ever. Doesn't want another woman in that house to love Master ever.

Stoney is actively seeking submissive woman and online romance, and he is only intersested in female slaves.

Rose: His weight obsession with you is not the only problem you and your children have. I wish you well, and hope that in the near future you come to respect yourself more than your
" master" respects you and your children.
I took no offense to your OP, but I certainly sat with my mouth wide open when I read the insensitive, offensive post that your " master" first posted and each subsequent post.

There is another thread here about Doms/Gentleman. Perhaps he might like to take a peek at it.
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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 12:41:19 PM

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This topic is really interesting. Here is just a little thing that i have learned from experiences in the past. People can't be analyzed just by their weight alone, because of body composition. I am 220 pounds and technically a BMI (body mass index) chart they say i am overweight. When electrodes were hooked up to my body to measure my body fat percentage was only 8 percent. Muscle mass is much heavier as most people know. Weight is definitely not a major deal unless it is clinically dangerous. People can look good being overweight. On the contrary, severely underweight people look way worse in my opinion that overweight people. There are always 2 sides to everything on this website.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 12:55:11 PM

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i don't understand the animosity throughout this thread....perhaps rose struck a nerve?

Anytime you look at people and say hey you don't measure up, especially based on your own internal conflicts being projected in an unkind way, you will likely invite some unkind words.

If Rose had indeed approached with "how is it you people who aren't model size learn to love the skin your in?" she might have gotten the group hug she desperately needs, and maybe helpful advice to leave her fat jerky master who denigrates her as a person and a monther in public... Let me tell yah something: one would get away with a lot of things with me, but calling me a bad mother are fightin' words, lol.

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i have also noticed that there are many overweight submissives, a greater percentage than throughout the general population i would guess....i don't know why that is
Why don't you grow the nerve to walk up to people at a munch or lifestyle event and ask them why it is they allowed themselves to get fat, and whether that is the reason they got into the lifestyle, their unacceptability within vanilla circles. I believe you will either understand better or learn that you will live a life that is a lot longer and healthier by minding your own business.

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BUT, the majority of the population agrees with rose's Master's and "hates fat people"....i recently read a survey in which most high school students would rather lose an arm than be overweight....what does that tell you?
The majority of the population is fickle, elected our current president, and would probably sell all their limbs for $100,000. The students that would prefer to lose a limb than be overweight are simply a reflection of how dumb and incredibly shallow the high schoolers are at least in that test group.

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weight is a painful issue, which may be why many people get so defensive...

Weight isn't a painful issue for me; it is for some people, but as painful issues go, weight certainly hasn't cornered the market. In my opinion, you have bigger issues when your priorities are so backwards that you start to believe the numbers on the scale are the most important issues going on the world.

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i don't think that's any reason to jump all over rose and her Master, especially in regards to judging their relationship...perhaps we could just discuss the topic?

We jumped on her a little and on him a lot because they are sanctimonious, hypocritical, judgemental shallow, and not incredibly bright given their presentation of their own issues on a public forum. M

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 12:59:03 PM

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Any way the cookie crumbles people are people, height, weight, race, hair color, eye color.... untill people stop with racism against all of it there are going to be assholes that feel it is appropriate to degrade people for their differences

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 1:18:19 PM

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These people are airing their dirty laundry here and that's pretty bad form. If it's all going to be laid out for all to see they'd better have skins thick enough for some light-hearted jabs.

I was not originally starting this post to "air dirty laundry". As another poster put it this is why I posted this question....

agirl wrote:

If I'm correct in my assumption, you were trying to gain an insight into how other's feel about being overweight and if that is a draw to being interested in BDSM/D/s M/s etc? It can be tricky wording things so that people don't take offence.

That is the reason I posted this question.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 1:24:05 PM

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baby blues,

Master and I want to thank you so much for being open minded and understanding the true reason I posted. I wish more people were like you.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 1:55:45 PM

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baby blues,

Master and I want to thank you so much for being open minded and understanding the true reason I posted. I wish more people were like you.

rose442

Well this makes sense.....when 99% of the people are telling you the same thing, go with the 1% that doesn't require you to really take a look at your situation or make any effort on your part to effect a positive change. Hope you're not a gambling kind of gal cause I don't think those odds work in your favor.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 2:08:31 PM

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As you can tell I am going through the posts now that I am out of bed.
And the responses now are more positive and getting more honest as this thread goes on. Thank you. But a few more questions and statements if I may. Master did not tell me to post this post. I wanted to understand how people can feel good about themselves looking different as they do. (in a way MOST of us can control). Maybe it is because I am insecure about the way I look. Maybe that is why I started this. But I did not do this post because I was prompted. And I DON’T feel like Master does about overweight people. My family is overweight. And I love them anyway. I am concerned for there health but I still love them for who they are, or are not. I was not trying to offend anyone. That was not my intentions at all. I just wanted to understand.

He called you a whore as well.

I don’t understand this part. Master has not called me a whore on this thread. And several have commented on this. Yes Master does call me a whore. But not in public. But that is none of your business. He calls me a bitch 24/7. A slut when He wants, cunt, whatever He wants when He wants. But that is our house He can do this if He wants. BUT he has not said I was a whore on this thread.

How arrogant and how dare you say something about her children and their fathers, that is NOT your place. Who the hell do you think you are? What you think you have some right to brow beat her and her children under the guise of being a master? You talk about her as if she's trash and certainly her children are included in that as well. Maybe the reason you chose her is because she didnt have the best self image and she didnt feel like she could do better..... I mean an almost 30 year gap in age.... what the matter couldnt find a woman your age that would take you cause you're an oppinionated jackass? You're more overweight than she is. You should count your blessings that she even hangs around. She is a beautiful woman... I took the time to go look at her profile and there are probably a LOT of men that would be honored to have 5 minutes of her time. Instead she's stuck with you that degrades her.... poor woman, I just hope that when she comes to her senses and walks out on you that it hasnt caused her and her kids so much emotional damage that they cant see past your narrowminded views.... and you call yourself a Master, you should be ashamed of yourself.... oh wait better yet maybe you should hit the gym... work some of your fat off your ass..... oh but wait I forgot you're perfect huh and " only making life easier for her"......

This is a lot to comment on. And I have no clue where to begin. Or if I even should begin. Master is point blank. And sometimes He words things in my opinion that are to outspoken. But that is because I don’t do it, or feel comfortable doing it. And I never will. And there is 32 years between us in age btw. But the part about my kids… How arrogant and how dare you say something about her children and their fathers, that is NOT your place. He has a right to say something I think about the father or fathers in this case. Master is the only one providing for my kids. So until the dads take there responsibility. Master has a right to talk about them.
Thank you again to the ones who did not take offense to my post. I did not intend for it to make people put there guard up, although I knew they would because of the topic. And I just wanted it to be an open helpful discusion.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 2:34:09 PM

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Hmmm...... that was rather spiteful. I can't find a single thing this girl has written that warranted that.

A) I don't claim to be the nicest person here. In fact, far from it.
B) At least I credit her with enough intelligence to eventually want the tattoo removed - it's more of a slam against her master, but I guess she might not be the brightest penny either. I don't care how devoted you are, having someone's name tattooed on you is probably excessive. But hey, to each their own. I just hope her next lover likes to tap that ass staring down at the freshly inked name of "Master Stoney."
C) These people are airing their dirty laundry here and that's pretty bad form. If it's all going to be laid out for all to see they'd better have skins thick enough for some light-hearted jabs. Sheeesh.

What I get from this thread is something like this: I have a weight issue. My Master is a bit of dick. Master enters in and amply displays the aforementioned behavior. Fuck, what's left but to laugh or cry?

These people aren't my friends - from what I can tell here they absolutely aren't my kind of people either. So whatever...

I didn't comment on what you are like, I just thought it was a petty action and said so.

I tend to agree regarding tattoos.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 3:41:59 PM

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now now wulf child don't be discriminatory, don't forget uncollared switches

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*Gathers up all the uncollard sub/slaves and marches them off to his PHAT farm*

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 3:54:54 PM

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Okay...so 35 pounds maybe a little overweight,but it is not obese and its not likely to be huge concern
health wise.The pressure to be perfect is a terrible trap....you in someones eye will never be perfect.
What matters is how you look in your eyes. Unhappy with what you see than fix it.
Just dont believe you are what he says you are.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 4:38:39 PM

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This topic is really interesting. Here is just a little thing that i have learned from experiences in the past. People can't be analyzed just by their weight alone, because of body composition. I am 220 pounds and technically a BMI (body mass index) chart they say i am overweight. When electrodes were hooked up to my body to measure my body fat percentage was only 8 percent. Muscle mass is much heavier as most people know. Weight is definitely not a major deal unless it is clinically dangerous. People can look good being overweight. On the contrary, severely underweight people look way worse in my opinion that overweight people. There are always 2 sides to everything on this website.

Good post and very accurate info. HAR! I'd like to get down to to 8 percent { Currently at 11} Anyways... good job.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 4:51:49 PM

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I don’t understand this part. Master has not called me a whore on this thread. And several have commented on this. Yes Master does call me a whore. But not in public. But that is none of your business. He calls me a bitch 24/7. A slut when He wants, cunt, whatever He wants when He wants. But that is our house He can do this if He wants. BUT he has not said I was a whore on this thread.

He said:

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As she told me her Master , she never had a problem getting what she wanted . Well I will say this , She is right as are most women , If they are willing to lay down they get what they want . I know this sounds harsh but it is true .

Can you see how many of here read this as his not only calling you a lazy whore, but the rest of us women, too? What an offensive statement to say that most women "lay down to get what they want".

I don't think anyone here had an issue with him wanting to help you lose weight, providing that's a goal you both want, and are willing to go about in a healthy way. But most of us here read both your posts as saying that he thinks poorly of you, as a woman who is lazy, fat (unnattractive to him), and someone who makes bad choices when it comes to men...

Well, sadly, by the sounds of his post, I actually have to agree with that last statement.

I wish you well, sweetheart. Your photos show a gorgeous, sexy woman, who deserves to be loved and wanted as she is. It's so sad that you feel bad about your body, and I'm willing to bet it's the men you've been involved with that have made you feel that way.

To be honest, I can't imagine that dieting is going to do you much good. It seldom works. perhaps the two of you should look at ways to get more exercise since his weight is by far a bigger health issue than yours at his age.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 5:27:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: MasterStoney442

Proprietrix and all the others that have asked that Question ( do I hate my slaverose442) NO I do not . And she knows this all to well.

I know all you that have replied to this post must be in a perfect relasionship . It seems that way to me . Oh but wait I must be reading the wrong post LOL. I should have read all the ones that are of Perfect relasionships .Then just mybe I would know how to do this LOL .

No, not a perfect realtionship, simply one in which my Owner has allowed me and helped me learn to love myself for who I am, not an idealized "what I could be." One in which I am molded to suit him, but not because I was unworthy of love before, nor because my previous state repulsed him.

We fight, we get confused about each other, we get angry with each other, but I -know- that he loves me for exactly who I am, and didnt' get into a relationship with me with the intent of changing me. The changes have been a natural outgrowth of our relationship together.

While I am not of the belief that people in relationshps should -never- change each other (I think that it's ok, and sometimes even good for one to change as a result of, or for, one's partner, especially if one belongs to one's partner) I -do- believe that there's a problem with someone getting into a relationship with someone in whom one isn't interested without change.

Other's have asked this, but it seems that you entered into a relationship with someone whose body/body type you were not attracted to. In fact, from your own words, you have a pretty negative opinion of overewight people. May I ask why you chose to be with someone who you thought so little of? That is, you've said that (most) fat people are lazy et al. What prompted you to enter a relationship with somone you considered lazy and everything else you've said?

I have no problem with Rose being called a whore or slut or anything else by her Owner becuase that's what pleases him to call her. The negative things you said about all women, and the way you said them do." Well I will say this , She is right as are most women , If they are willing to lay down they get what they want . I know this sounds harsh but it is true ."

I guess it's hard for me to understand being in a relationship with someone if that's what you think of them. It's not like calling someone a whore because it pleases you to call her a whore. It...I dunno...I can't explain, but it seems entirely different to me.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 5:51:15 PM

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11 percent...i am impressed. How long do you lift every day? I lift for 2 hours a day then I run 4 or 5 miles. The coolest thing about the 8 percent is that when I was a senior in high school playing football and basketball I had a 5 and a half percent. That has gone up with my workout for college football. I would like to hear about your workouts. Take care

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:00:57 PM

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But the part about my kids… How arrogant and how dare you say something about her children and their fathers, that is NOT your place. He has a right to say something I think about the father or fathers in this case. Master is the only one providing for my kids. So until the dads take there responsibility. Master has a right to talk about them.

*edited - post removed because I realized this is a waste of my time and people that allow their children to be talked to like shit, disgust me and I have nothing further to say to you..... other than.... if you have no respect for yourself or your children, what the hell kind of image are you setting in their heads..... *

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