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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 12:50:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

I guess what I'm saying is that I couldn't change for someone who didn't love me before I changed. If me loosing weight, or growing my hair out, or wearing colored contacts is a -criteria- of loving me, and being with me, then I wouldn't want to be with that person. As I say about belonging to my Owner, he doesn't need to respect me now that I belong to him, but I needed him to respect me so that I could give myself to him. He can change me however he sees fit, because he loves me -without- changes.

Very well put. I seek that as well, in myself, and in another.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 1:32:02 AM

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After reading your profile Stoney, I see exactly where you are coming from.

I am only interested in female slaves.If there is any thing eles you need to know ask , you might get a answer .
I LIKE MY SLAVE TO JUST OBEY AND NOT GIVE ME ANY SHIT. Thats the way a slave should be at all times .

It's heartwarming to read your thoughts on your slave Rose : a fat, lazy whore who can't even raise her own children properly. And yes, you did call her a whore! Of course to you, publicaly berating her most likely feeds your ego.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 3:19:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot
I am only interested in female slaves.If there is any thing eles you need to know ask , you might get a answer .
I LIKE MY SLAVE TO JUST OBEY AND NOT GIVE ME ANY SHIT. Thats the way a slave should be at all times .

It's heartwarming to read your thoughts on your slave Rose : a fat, lazy whore who can't even raise her own children properly. And yes, you did call her a whore! Of course to you, publicaly berating her most likely feeds your ego.
mbmbn

It's horrific isn't it? So much for his concern with her health and well being. M

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 3:41:48 AM

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I'm surprised you could understand what he was saying...I sure couldn't!

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 4:15:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

American are fat because they have a poor relationship to food and simply do not exercise enough. They eat very few things (finicky!) and do not often prepare their meals for themselves. Store bought prepared food, fast food, and even most higher quality restaurant food are all basically crap. The overuse of sugar, salt, and fat; the use of fake garbage like corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated fat; and a whole host of deflavorizing and processing techniques have left our food in state where it must be re-"enriched" back again with its goodness with fake nutrition, fake flavors, and fake colors. Food is nature's way of saying "Eat me!" so you just have to get into it hardcore - nothing else will do. Count your calories and fat grams. Avoid too many carbs, but eat of everything in moderation. Vegetables and fruits you can very nearly go nuts on (go easier on the actual nuts). Walk 30 minutes several times a week and stretch out and you should be fine.

Don't allow food to become overloaded with other meanings. The only truly appropriate emotional response to any food should be as a response to its flavor - love it, like it, or hate it - but only for what it actually is as food. Avoid foods that you want to eat because you are sad. Don't eat "comfort food" - food is not your mom, it's nutrition. Anxiety is not the same as hunger. Eat when you are hungry. Make an effort to note your point of satiety and then eat no more.

Don't starve yourself either - beauty should be seen as a byproduct of good health and an overall sense of well-being. Furthermore, starving yourself tells your body there isn't enough food and warns it to start storing whatever calories it can spare as fat. You don't want that either.

Hydrate. Drink plenty of water throughout the whole day. Drink anything else sparingly.

Use one of those online weight calculators but don't be afraid if you are even 20 pounds overweight - statistically that's practically meaningless. If you feel good, eat good, and do some basic exercises - it's all going to be just fine. Good health can be forever; youthful beauty has a shelf life - start preparing now. Even so, I still think beauty comes in all shapes, sizes, colors, and ages.

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ORIGINAL: rose442
Well and because Master hates fat ppl.

Lovely. If this merely means he sexually prefers people with trimmer figures, I don't have a problem with that. If he actually disrespects people because of their appearance, ridicules them, etc - then he's an asshat.

Excellent post throughout, chaingang.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 4:22:49 AM

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I want to ask a question. This is going to be a touchy subject. I will say now that I mean absolutely no disrespect in anything I say or ask. I just want to understand. I am trying to figure out why so many sub's and slaves are overweight. I am a little bit, meaning like 35# overweight for me. But there are sooo many that I have met, and see on the computer that have serious weight issues. Master and I have worked out a routine for this girl to lose this weight because of my self esteem and health issues. Well and because Master hates fat ppl.

I feel good and confident with clothes on (most of the time). But when I have no clothes on and look in the mirror, I hate the way I look. And that was the 1st reason for me to lose the weight. But now, per Doctors orders. I must lose the weight.

Can I ask how any sub / slave can look in the mirror and be pleased with themselves being that way?
How do the Dom's/Domme's feel about there overweight sub/slaves?
Or how do You feel seeing other ones like that?
Isn't health issues a major concern?
It is for me and I use to think that I was fine. I was just a little overweight. And I am, and it is still a problem for me.
Like I said, I am not trying to disrespect anyone. I am overweight too and talking about myself. But I am not letting my issue go and letting myself get beyond overweight. I don't want to be insecure about myself and ppl not see the sexy side of me because I am fat. And I am very down on myself for the weight. So I don't understand how anyone can be proud of being fat. And want to stay that way. Or want There subs or slaves that way.
I see so many overweight subs and slaves in the lifestyle and I would like to understand why there are so many.
Is it because of the weight?
Is it because of insecurities?
I have been to a couple BDSM events and I was in the minority. I was one of the skinniest people there. I was shocked to see this.
I guess my real reason for this post is to find out what brings people or draws people to this lifestyle that are overweight.
Do the subs and slaves that are overweight feel they can please there Dom in ALL ways being overweight.
I don't, that is MY reason for losing it. Master and I just discussed this issue and He says I am doing it for me. And I know I am not. And that is why I fail at diets and don't stick to exercising for very long. Yes I want to look good. But I want to be samantha on bewitched and twitch my nose and it be done. Not have to work at it. I am lazy. And I know it. That is why I gained the weight to begin with. And with 4 kids and active with them, how I am overweight, I may never know. That was contradicting, smiles. Ok other than my kids and being with them I don't want to do anything else.

Thank you for reading, and I hope to get some POSITIVE responses. I just want to understand.

rose442

Liking your body shape, size etc, doesn't always have much to do with having the *perfect* body. There are lots of people who have wonderful toned bodies, but detest their ears, for example, or their noses, or wrinkles..etc etc.

I'm pretty slim and in the minority at any BDSM event or social I've ever attended but you can feel insecure about pretty much any facet of yourself. It depends what's important to you.

I'm not comfortable with someone stating they don't like *fat people* , though that wasn't your comment. Maybe your Master prefers a specific body type (thats ok)..I just think it is an unfortunate way of expressing it.

agirl

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 6:40:31 AM

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Thank you to all who have replyed. All were pretty much sticking to my post and doing good. Then it took a wicked turn. I just want to understand the mindset of overweight people. Male, female, sub, slave, Dom, Master, or Mistress. I was not bashing anyone. I was as respectful and calm as possible, so I did not offend anyone. Why did this post have to turn into bashing Master or myself? Wwe are all adults here, why can’t there be open honest discussions on this without being mean or hateful? I would have posted to some of these threads b4 now but I was at work and could not do that. So I am doing it now. I have pasted a few quotes to reply to and my reply’s will be in bold print due to the fact that I don’t know how to do quotes through the forums.

bandit25

You want to lose the weight for you...you go girl. You want to do it cuz "Master hates fat ppl" well, what the hell are you going to do if you gain it back? Stay with someone who hates you? Start hating yourself? Doesn't make any sense to me.
Yes I want to lose the weight for me. I have expressed this to Master over the course of our entire relationship. (3 years) I might add. But yes I also stated I am lazy. I don’t want to lose the weight for that reason only. And that is why Master pushes this issue as much as He does. When I don’t like some new rule or some change, I buck up. I am the one who makes this harder than it should be. Master does not hate me. And yes I see where the statements I have made about how my appearance is and how Master feels does confuse things a bit. And honestly I am confused about it too. But Wwe are working on it. I will never hate myself. And Master doesn’t hate me either.

sleazybutterfly

i am sorry to see that you feel that bad about yourself.. that has to make life very hard for you. We all go thru those moments when we don't feel at our best.. it is sad..but as women.. be us slave or not.. we feel we have to live up to something that is unreachable.
I don’t feel bad about myself in all ways. But I do not like my appearance. I have customers asking me at work “when the baby is due”. I am not pregnant. And cant ever be again. Thank the one above for small favors. Lol. I will mention to friends that I am trying to diet, and they say “ why, you look good.” An I tell them it is with clothes on I look good. And that is the way I feel. And I want that to change. FOR ME. And me losing weight is not unreachable. It is very possible. But I have to work at it. And I am doing that now.

HoosierScorpio

What sounds like to me you have the wrong Master because he is making yourself feel bad about yourself and no Master should be doing that? They need to encourage and give you tasks you can do with out feel bad about yourself.
I realize this is your opinion. And I will be reas respectful with my answer to this as possible. But you have no right to tell me that I have the wrong Master. That is rude. And as of right now I don’t have much time to do tasks for myself that builds me up. But I will soon. And to the ones who have talked about Master taking all the responsibilities away from me at home. Yes He has. And yes sometimes I feel not worthy or needed at home. But it is because I gone from the house for work 12 hours a day 4 days a week, sleep 8 hours and only have time to cook dinner and get a shower and ready for work again. And start all over. I am not here to have much responsibility. But when I am here. I do take some responsibility. When I can. Master only took these chores away from me, so that I don’t go crazy and pull my hair out. I have a very busy life.

suggababy23

Honestly anyone who "hates" a general group of people would toss a red flag at me. If he said he hated black people or gays...would it be different? I don't think so. It's all discrimination. Perhaps you meant that in general he didn't find people who were overweight enjoyable to be around. What about overweight Doms? What does he think of them? What do you think of them?
I cannot answer these questions for Master, He will have to do that for Himself. I am not against fat people or overweight people as I perfer to say it that way. If I was, I would not have anything to do with most of my family. They mostly all are overweight. I don’t have a problem with Dom’s being overweight as long as they are safe. I am a worry wort. LOL. I tend to worry about everyone else as much as about myself. Another fault I have. I was just concerned with all the ppl I have come across and are in the lifestyle that are overweight. And I was surprised because I have a different mental image of how I think they should look. And I am sure that all get a mental picture about people they talk to and expect to see when they meet face to face.

Halcyone

Is it possible that when you lose the weight that's bothering you, you'll still be dissatisfied with yourself? Then perhaps it isn't really weight that's your problem.

Anything is possible, of course. But I remember the days when I was 140# and my confidence in myself was through the roof. I was not ashamed of myself or what I looked like. And I am now.

Also, why does the weight of others concern you?
Like I said earlier I am a worry wort, and I am nosey. I want to understand how others feel about themselves. No matter there weight.

If he hates fat, then why is he with you instead of being out there finding what he truly wants?
Master has to answer that question. I cannot do it for Him.

mistoferin

No offense but, her post was pretty detailed and thought out, I would think she is capable of thinking for herself and answering her own posts. Or are those things that you just "do" for her too?

This is part of the bashing thing I was talking about. Master helps me when ever He can. Like He and I both have stated. I was not here so He was trying to reply to you Aall so Yyou might understand more of what I was asking and the answers I was looking for to understand. And bashing was not what I was looking for. And to this one particular part I hope Master responds to this as well.

rose442

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 6:57:19 AM

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Hello rose,

I got the gist of your post, though the comment of your Master's, that you quoted, was bound to cause people's blood to boil as it was a rather bigoted comment.

If I'm correct in my assumption, you were trying to gain an insight into how other's feel about being overweight and if that is a draw to being interested in BDSM/D/s M/s etc? It can be tricky wording things so that people don't take offence.

I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to ponder... it's not unnoticable to me either.. I just don't care that much..lol

agirl

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:10:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: rose442
mistoferin

No offense but, her post was pretty detailed and thought out, I would think she is capable of thinking for herself and answering her own posts. Or are those things that you just "do" for her too?

This is part of the bashing thing I was talking about. Master helps me when ever He can. Like He and I both have stated. I was not here so He was trying to reply to you Aall so Yyou might understand more of what I was asking and the answers I was looking for to understand. And bashing was not what I was looking for. And to this one particular part I hope Master responds to this as well.

rose442

rose442,
I actually didn't have an issue with this thread. Ok, the comment about your Master hating fat people was offensive...but I knew that it was not YOUR comment. You snipped a part of my response(my only response on this thread actually up to that point) that was in reaction to your Master's post....you know the one where he came on here telling us how fat and lazy you are, how your children's fathers are worthless, how he has to do everything for you and how he didn't like the responses you were getting here. Where in my post was I bashing him? I asked him questions...sorry if either you or he perceive that as bashing. The fact is that he came storming on here like an out of control 12 year old. He went on to admit that indeed he does hate fat people and went on to explain the reason behind that is obviously their fault....because they are "too damn lazy".....much like what he repeatedly said about you. If that is your idea of a "Master" you have my condolences. I know you said you hope he responds to me....I do too

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:20:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
If that is your idea of a "Master" you have my condolences.

Save your condolences, she's going to need money for tattoo removal:

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:30:06 AM

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Hmmm...... that was rather spiteful. I can't find a single thing this girl has written that warranted that.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:33:53 AM

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I THINK IF U R A TRUE DOM, U WOULD EXCEPT UR SLAVE/SUB FOR THERE MINDSET, OFCOURSE U WANT TO BE PRESENTABLE WITHIN REASON, BUT A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A MASTER AND SLAVE/SUB IS UNCONDITIONAL..IN MY OPINION...LITTLEONE5

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:35:40 AM

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Maybe you think fat isnt pretty but my Master like my fat thighs, fat ass and big boobs. I think i am beautiful and sexy and so does my Master. His opinion is the only one that matters anyhow. BTW skinny white trash doesnt appeal to me either. I like fems and males big and beautiful as well.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:36:42 AM

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All of this too from a man that weighs 230lbs and for his height should weigh

Medical Recommendation:

This recommendation is based on a Body Mass Index (BMI) range of 19-25.

Hmmmm kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, dont ya think?

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:39:15 AM

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HMM, Y DID I GET VANILLA IM DEFINATELY NOT VANILLA, I AM A SLAVE TO THE COREWITHA MASTER I ADORE

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:44:16 AM

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HMM, Y DID I GET VANILLA IM DEFINATELY NOT VANILLA, I AM A SLAVE TO THE COREWITHA MASTER I ADORE

because you are new to the boards, the icon will change as you post more

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:47:22 AM

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The beautiful thing about this lifestyle is you can like fat or not, like pain or not. Everyone has their preferences and thats ok, but don't put someone down because of that.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 7:58:09 AM

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i don't think size matters. nor colour. nor nuffin really. i've been with allsorts, both in bdsm and vanilla. i think it's who you are inside wotz most important. just my opinion

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 8:05:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: agirl
Hmmm...... that was rather spiteful. I can't find a single thing this girl has written that warranted that.

A) I don't claim to be the nicest person here. In fact, far from it.
B) At least I credit her with enough intelligence to eventually want the tattoo removed - it's more of a slam against her master, but I guess she might not be the brightest penny either. I don't care how devoted you are, having someone's name tattooed on you is probably excessive. But hey, to each their own. I just hope her next lover likes to tap that ass staring down at the freshly inked name of "Master Stoney."
C) These people are airing their dirty laundry here and that's pretty bad form. If it's all going to be laid out for all to see they'd better have skins thick enough for some light-hearted jabs. Sheeesh.

What I get from this thread is something like this: I have a weight issue. My Master is a bit of dick. Master enters in and amply displays the aforementioned behavior. Fuck, what's left but to laugh or cry?

These people aren't my friends - from what I can tell here they absolutely aren't my kind of people either. So whatever...

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 5/23/2006 8:08:41 AM

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Hi every one i am an owned slave and i was a bit shocked at all the comments i read here, i would only like to state that i found that in this life choice that there are all body shapes colors some with scares and some without and whatever imperfections.

The first time i played in public i learned a very important lesson the people who understood only saw me the whole slave they did not look at my wieght or the surgery scares they were fears i had in my head but at no time did they make me feel anything but safe and cared for.

The comments that this woman made were not very helpful,, but i don't truely believe she meant any real harm, and some of what i read was getting to be a a little nasty. This should be a teaching moment don't you think.

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