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DesFIP -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 8:40:42 AM)
Does anyone else find a 'master' talking in third person about himself hysterical? And of course, his views are idiotic. I'm fourth generation mood disorder. It has nothing to do with it raining. Not to mention that referring to Seasonal Affectiveness Disorder in that term is just plain silly. And what the hell is this pronouncement that all bipolars are raging sluts? Because the ones I know are too concerned trying to be stable to think about going out trolling for sex. Dude, what you have experience in hasn't been stated to any of us. It certainly isn't in neuropsychology or neurobiology though.

Kaliko -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 8:42:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Does anyone else find a 'master' talking in third person about himself hysterical? Sort of. It's not my thing, but I've seen at least one submissive woman do that here and I don't remember anyone caring much. Or perhaps I didn't notice if she got chided for it. I will admit, it's like nails on a chalkboard and it makes me not want to read the posts. Likely not the most effective method for participation on a discussion board.

JanahX -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 11:06:38 AM)
quote: Does anyone else find a 'master' talking in third person about himself hysterical? Not really. Ive been dealing with bouts of depression lately due to my fibromyalgia. Ive been agitated lately which has been triggering my fibro which in turn has triggered depression. I went to my fibro doctor a few weeks ago - she prescribed ABILIFY, I started taking it, and it made me want to eat uncontrollably. I quit taking it. I think gaining 30 lbs in a month would do more harm than anything. Im hoping the weather here clears up some = The sun and getting exercise seem to curb the depression some. When Im depressed - the last thing on my mind is kink and wanting to comply to people. I get really moody and cranky.

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 2:35:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt First, I want to thank JstAnotherSub for the CrazyMeds site. Thank you ! You are welcome. I ran across it accidentally, and it has given me much info and giggles.

CaptJosh -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 3:18:15 PM)
I find myself recently starting to come out of a bout of depression, and let me tell you, it messed with me badly. Instead of being the big strong caring Daddy Dom type for my babygirl, I was just sort of letting things happen and withdrawing more and more. Yikes but what a mess I've made of things. My babygirl feels like she has had to do everything lately, and she's right. I haven't been holding up my end of things, including being little to no help on our wedding plans. Depression sucks, and not in the wonderful way my babygirl does. I don't want to go through it again if at all possible.

LadyPact -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 8:16:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Does anyone else find a 'master' talking in third person about himself hysterical? Yes, but I also realize that for some, this is the only outlet. It isn't always a particular person's fault. This might be the only avenue for personal expression that they have. I try to be empathetic because of this. As to the uneducated posts based on ignorance, it's time that certain people read more studies. One of the greatest leaps forward is understanding vitamin D deficiency, at least in females. Perhaps it would be interesting to read and learn.

erieangel -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/12/2012 11:44:10 PM)
quote: On occassions, you would thus suffer delusions and hallucinations Excuse me, but I have never suffered delusions or hallucinations. You are confusing bipolar disorder with schizophrenia; though there are are some people who have what is known as schizo-affective disorder, which is a combination of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. My mother's sister has that. As many have said, mental illness tend to run in families. The problem I have with you stating that you "take care" of your depressed slaves on your own is that even healthy people with no family history of mental illness can sometimes become depressed and only a qualified professional should be determining the cause. You, being a lay person, might think it is hormonal because the depression seems to lift after menstruation. But a severe iron deficiency can cause similar symptoms. So can problems with the thyroid gland. Seasonal affective disorder will have people getting the "blues" when its cloudy and rainy and in the winter. You know what, I'm not going to even try to explain all the varied causes of depression to a pompous ass. I'll just pray nobody dies while in your care.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 12:16:25 AM)
erie, this is nothing more than the prime example of a dominant thinking he has the ability and knowledge to "fix" s-types. Dominants who do that are, as you said, nothing more than pompous asses. Adding to the the confusion between third person speak, the inability to follow proper tenses, and trying to sound more like Shakespeare, and what else could you expect. The only positive thing I can say about the guy is I absolutely love the boots (although I do think they are pretty girly for a guy to be wearing).

erieangel -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 4:21:10 AM)
Ha!! Based on the boots, I actually thought it was a woman posting and then I read the post!! LOL

lizi -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 8:22:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: misterraymond Liza , You have an opinioin, this Master has experience. Everyone suffers at some stage depression, everyone who suffers depression needs help, the depressions that this Master helps with are quite real, and involve those he cares for or loves, you get to the root of someones depression, and indeed control it, and evaporate it, and Liza being rude demonstrates your educated level. Liza this Master doubts you swim, or have ever had any martial arts training or engaged in those disciplines. MR I realize to reply to this as conversation is pointless as you seem to wish to remain ignorant, but on the off chance someone else may benefit I wished to expend the effort. I do not have an opinion, I have experience in both situational and clinical depression. You however do not seem to have had any experience with clinical depression, and worse than that, seem to believe you are educated on the matter. It bothers me that you color many posts that you make with absolutes - you state that everyone suffers from depression, that everyone needs help with depression. Anytime you state something for the entire human race you are bound to be wrong. Strange with your ego that you don't see how ridiculous this type of statement is, and that you would take such a definite chance on being wrong. If you were so correct all of the time no doubt world leaders would be beating a path to your door to solve problems, as it is you are spouting pompous nonsense on a BDSM message board by writing in the third person with the ridiculous impression that it somehow lends you an air of distinction. Another perfect example of your tendency to assume is calling me uneducated because you think I was rude. You'd have to admit you actually don't have a clue as to how many degrees I possess, or what my education level is. I have several degrees and specialized training in many different areas. I have also received training less than two years old in psychological illness, plus my life experience in both types of depression, which means you are wrong, once again, in your assumptions. There seems to be a trend here in your being wrong in a rather consistent manner. Let's be clear, what you seem to be talking about is a temporary issue with mood, or motivation. I wouldn't doubt that this type of occurrence happens with most of us here and there, although there will be someone somewhere who may have never know what it feels like to become depressed. Getting to the root of an emotional disturbance is not "controlling it and evaporating it", it is understanding it and helping the troubling episode be put to rest for the individual. This method will also most assuredly not work on chronic, major, or clinical depression. You are doing yourself, and the general public a huge disservice by continuing to treat all depressive incidents as the same type of thing- they are not. Depression, the illness, is a biological illness that manifests itself emotionally. People have historically thought that it was a problem with mood, not knowing the chemical factors at the base of the illness. Sad that you seem to hold this antiquated and as we know now, untrue, version of depression. Just an FYI, I do swim, regularly. I am currently training in aquatic physical therapy techniques as a specialization in my field, and have swum recreationally all my life. I also do have martial arts training, tae kwon do to be specific. Alas, I do not have a black belt, yet, but my two sons do and I will have mine someday. Once again your presumptions have failed miserably and although you do not know me personally to vouch for these things, several people on these boards do. I have a lot of other training and interests in life as well, how they would impact the matter of treating depression is nonexistent since I am not qualified to do so outside of recognizing a type of illness and recommending another professional - neither are you in any significant manner other than lending an ear for a fleeting moment and helping to find that person a professional that can and will help them.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 8:26:55 AM)
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JanahX -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 8:28:17 AM)
Nice Post Lizi

angelikaJ -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 9:44:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: misterraymond quote: It might be nice if this master educated himself as to what the hell he was talking about. Saying you can control "depressions" and evaporate them is incredibly ignorant. Liza , You have an opinioin, this Master has experience. Everyone suffers at some stage depression, everyone who suffers depression needs help, the depressions that this Master helps with are quite real, and involve those he cares for or loves, you get to the root of someones depression, and indeed control it, and evaporate it, and Liza being rude demonstrates your educated level. Liza this Master doubts you swim, or have ever had any martial arts training or engaged in those disciplines. MR Lizi already replied to this post and it is not necessary to defend her. However, to not see the obvious and to say that everyone suffers from depression is incorrect. There is a big difference between sadness, situational depression and depression that comes from unbalanced neuro-chemistry. There are some people who are not prone to depression. And misterraymond, to be dismissive the way you have been and to post negative conclusions about other posters that you have no personal knowledge of- the way you have, is very rude in and of itself.

angelikaJ -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 9:54:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: misterraymond quote: I have bipolar disorder and was in remission for over 3 years but recently (this month) had to go back on medication. I am also a mental health service provider. Right now I am certified peer specialist, but I am studying to take my test to become a certified psychiatric rehabilitation practitioner. My boss is really is pushing for me to take the test in a few months, but I'm not sure I'm ready for it, mostly because of my relapse. Eirreangel, this Master understands this awful problem you suffer, these are moods swings, truly awful, you have your good days, even fantastic days, and your mood swings the opposite direction, between mania and depression, and the change can happen so quickly. This illness, and it is an illnes, as you more than no, used to be called in England "manic depressive disorder, in England this was psychiatric diagnosis that descibed a variety of catorgories of mood disorders, this was believed related to energy levels. On occassions, you would thus suffer delusions and hallucinations, Elevated moods mania, milder moods hypomania, you know well these moods, this Master can go on, but this audiance is so hostile, Master choses not to, however back to this Masters comments, that many think quite wrong, these references are made about the depressions that are common day to day in healthy people not suffering as you do, this no way resembles Bipolar, if you thought Master was making such a reference you are very wrong indeed. Master hope you handle this problem, and wishes to say no more other than, he has just a little understanding of your pain, and can only wish you well. MR Instead of jumping to conclusions and declaring her experience for her, I recommend asking next time. Bi-polar is not a one size-fits-all illness. People's symptoms and manifestations can vary widely. I can see that you were trying to exhibit compassion here but again, as before, limited experience and your tendency to (over)generalise got in the way of communication. Next time, ask someone how something affects them instead of assuming you know. And by the way, when someone says you are ignorant, it really isn't the insult you think it is: it just means you don't know. It only becomes insulting in context when you choose not to learn.

DesFIP -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 12:01:21 PM)
And not everyone suffers from depression, only one in four will suffer a true depressive episode in their life. Although Lady Pact is correct about the importance of Vitamin D III. Not just in females but males also. Human beings developed in the savanna with a great many hours of sunlight a day. The further you are from the equator, the greater the risk of S.A.D. Which can be treated with light boxes as well as DIII. The physicians I've discussed this with recommend 5,000 IU a day. Janah, all of the atypical antipsychotics, which Abilify is one of, will cause weight gain. Some do better on Seroquel, some on Risperdal. But there's no way to tell which will cause you to gain without trying them. My daughter takes Seroquel XR for her bipolar type II, and it doesn't cause her nearly as many side effects as the others. But the regular Seroquel wasn't nearly as helpful for her.

LadyPact -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 4:57:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP And not everyone suffers from depression, only one in four will suffer a true depressive episode in their life. Although Lady Pact is correct about the importance of Vitamin D III. Not just in females but males also. Human beings developed in the savanna with a great many hours of sunlight a day. The further you are from the equator, the greater the risk of S.A.D. Which can be treated with light boxes as well as DIII. The physicians I've discussed this with recommend 5,000 IU a day. <snip> In regard to the above, I just want folks to know how important this really is, especially when it comes to females. Vitamin D deficiency in women can have similar side effects as a hormone deficiency. That means not just depression, but it has the potential to mess with your mind and your body in various ways. Moving to AK taught Me this lesson in a big way and I honestly don't want people to go through what I went through.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 7:10:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: misterraymond quote: "Master" does some serious damage to someone. Littlewonder, so misguided, this Master does not know you, or you him, you read dialogue genertaed by him,on this forum that this Master thinks is appropriate, that is just one opiniion, this Master opinion. To shout someone down, you do not agree with, you behave in a rude way, fortunately such behaviour goes over this Masters head. What master is enjoying is how misguided so many of you truly are, and are prepared to shout people down who you do not share an opinion with. MR Dude, you sound simply pompous and irritating. As for depression, you wouldn't be able to tell us your medical degrees, or do you evaporate it with your ray gun and stomp it with a high heeled boot? Anybody who has any experience with treating or dealing with depression knows that some kinds need to be medically treated, some of them are genetic, others are side effects of medication and and and... To let somebody who obviously doesn't know anything about depression (or grammar) mess with the depression of another person is close to criminally insane. Maybe you should seek treatment yourself.

DesFIP -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 10:10:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact In regard to the above, I just want folks to know how important this really is, especially when it comes to females. Vitamin D deficiency in women can have similar side effects as a hormone deficiency. That means not just depression, but it has the potential to mess with your mind and your body in various ways. Moving to AK taught Me this lesson in a big way and I honestly don't want people to go through what I went through. [/color] I can't imagine living there in winter. Don't you have a light box as well? On the flip side, do you find that summer, with those long days of all daylight, is a time when you're filled with energy?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 10:42:50 PM)
I recall a discussion I had with LP ages ago and I think she must have thought I wanted to sell her a light box, those things are fantastic, when I moved to the North of the UK, it was a life safer for me.

LadyPact -> RE: Depression and BDSM (5/13/2012 10:50:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact In regard to the above, I just want folks to know how important this really is, especially when it comes to females. Vitamin D deficiency in women can have similar side effects as a hormone deficiency. That means not just depression, but it has the potential to mess with your mind and your body in various ways. Moving to AK taught Me this lesson in a big way and I honestly don't want people to go through what I went through. I can't imagine living there in winter. Don't you have a light box as well? On the flip side, do you find that summer, with those long days of all daylight, is a time when you're filled with energy? Oh, yes, Des. I most certainly do. I'm actually a night person by nature, so to have sun at 11:00 PM was like espresso intensified.

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