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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/7/2011 11:09:43 AM   
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Funny thing for me. I had much less problem accepting my kinkiness, that yes, I definitely am a mean nasty bitch at times......than I did in the out of balance power exchange aspect.

I was raised in a passive aggressive female dominated, male dominant, environment. Basically, all mouths saying the men rule, but the reality as always was that the women really did. It just seemed to be the truth that dared not be spoken.

Yet, as a young adult I was 'taught' that relationships should be equal. That both partners should play an equal role in the relationship. It was all about things being fair and so forth.

That all being said, I had to give myself permission to have an 'unfair' relationship. While on one hand it feels so right, there are moments that I can have a few of those old guilt pangs. With Generic Dude I can occasionally push too far into my QueenoftheFuckingUniverse mindset. I have to remind myself that the relationship he and I have, while he is somewhat submissive, there is no real agreed upon power exchange, QueenoftheFuckingUniverse/slave, kinda dealio. I can spend a large part of a Saturday sitting on my ass while he cleans house but if I don't tidy up the kitchen and make a batch of his favourite banana bread or some chocolate chip cookies he can get a wee bit grumpy.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/7/2011 11:12:39 AM   
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Please ignore this.........apparently I did NOT leave my inner dumbass at home today..


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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/7/2011 12:09:31 PM   
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I need my partner to own his kink.




This. I wouldn't feel comfortable - or satisfied - submitting to someone who wasn't comfortable expecting my submission in all the ways I need him to.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/7/2011 12:28:43 PM   
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I've been conflicted about a lot of things in my life...But smacking around my bitches ain't one of them. nuff said

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 12:23:58 PM   
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..."hurting" me wasn't the same as harming me.



OOOOH... I really like that, and am soooooooooooo stealing it!!!  Yay you!!!



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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 1:12:43 PM   
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that's a great statement of the crux of the matter. i imagine if you are much stronger than your partner, and you're aware of that, it's also probably somewhat difficult to get comfortable with skirting the line -- how strong am i really? how far can i go? there's a lot involved there that i think we (as bottoms) don't always think about. 
personally, i know i'm turned on by a man who is strong enough to kill me but doesn't. =p but that's where it sorta ends for me, at least as a concept. i don't really know or live the other side of that.


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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 2:59:15 PM   
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  No, they're just weak and are attracted to the surface of dominance more than anything else.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 3:09:01 PM   
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care to elaborate, Awareness? 

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 3:19:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
No, they're just weak and are attracted to the surface of dominance more than anything else.


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

care to elaborate, Awareness? 



He's saying they are insecure, and project an image of dominance because it affords them a level of security in thier self image. It allows them to vicariously appear dominant to everyone around them, while not really being dominant. The thrill of the attention.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 3:23:35 PM   
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  Well, in the sense that they have desires but not the inner strength.  They're attracted to the surface attributes, the accoutrements, the idea of blowjobs on command but feel guilty about such.  That suggests men who are conflicted between those desires and the social programming that says we're an egalitarian society and that everyone is the same.

I have no such notions.  I fully understand that we term 'rights' are those things which the strong allow the weak to possess, despite the various posturings by special interest groups who have every reason to convince us otherwise.  Consequently, I feel no conflict when dominating a woman.

It's impossible to be dominant and fail to take responsibility for your actions.  Without the latter, the former isn't dominance, it's just bullying.  Likewise, you can't dominate a woman and then feel guilty - that's playing a role, nothing more.


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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 3:25:06 PM   
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Ja, I feel guilty so I kick the dogshit out of her harder and make her beg me for it so I dont feel so bad.

LOL, but I get over it real easy.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/8/2011 3:39:22 PM   
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you're talking about the "being in charge" business right? do you have the same lack of reservation about sadism and i guess "physical domination"?
i think being okay with being in charge is different than being okay with whacking on your girl, but i do think at times we've sorta blended them together in this conversation.


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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/9/2011 12:20:16 AM   
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I just wanna point out that it took years of conflict for this boy to become so unconflicted.



Quality. <tips hat>

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/9/2011 11:32:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

I just wanna point out that it took years of conflict for this boy to become so unconflicted.



So how did you do it then?

  This is one of those short questions with no simple answers. It essentially asks me to tell my life story. Start with this, then follow the bullets. 

-I grew up in a house with a single mom, and sisters, all of whom are strong vibrant independent, free thinking women whom I admire, love and respect greatly.  

-I love women, always have. I value them, enjoy their divergent perspectives, they way they tend to think more with the heart than with the head, which I think speaks well of them as people. There’s no misogyny here. I think women are far and away the greatest thing on earth. I adore em. Hell, I have a granddaddy from the deep deep south who was a Southern Baptist preacher so I was taught the old Southern code.  I was raised to be a gentleman. I know the proper way to act, hold doors open, carry groceries, pull chairs out, stand when she does. Not only that, but I like it. I like politeness. I like manners. I like class. I like making pretty gals smile.
And that’s good, because it was expected in my house and failure to act appropriately wasn’t acceptable.  

-Underneath my calloused exterior, I am, like all cynics, a romantic idealist, an armor plated teddy bear. This includes a certain perspective of myself as acting/being, for lack of a better word, chivalrous. Not just that, but I’m pretty empathic, sensitive to injustice and others pain. I try real hard to be a good moral person. 

-And I’ve always been attracted to violent sex. Like always. I don’t remember not liking the idea of sex. I knew what girls were for when I was a little kid, French kissed one before elementary school. My first sexual memory came watching a TV movie when I was a little kid-they had a scene where one of those 70’s California big hair blondes was forced to walk the plank, hands bound, half naked, helpless. God, that scene just lodged like a splinter in the back of my brain. I remember the little woodie I got to this day.  

-Teen age fantasies revolved around helpless girls, spankings, sodomy. And I felt guilty as shit about them. Guilty as in WTF is wrong with me guilty. Guilty as in shame, as in I have secrets I can’t show, secrets people will judge me by, including those sisters and mother I discussed. And that’s an awful way to go through life. So you bet I suffered conflicts, part of which were that I could never tell a girl what I thought/liked/wanted because no rational woman would ever want anything to do with me (Looking back, it’s almost funny. My fantasies at this time were pretty freaking innocent. I’ve done far worse stuff since then, and my fantasies/plans now-wheeeeeew.Course that rational person fear probably should still hold true today-thank god for fucked up wimmins!)  

-All of which leads to epiphany number one. One day when I was around 14 or 15,I was poking round the psychology section of the library and ran across a book by called my Secret Garden, by a female shrink named Nancy Friday. The book consisted of real interviews with live (as in live, not my pubescent fantasy porn chicks) women openly discussing their sexual fantasies. It read like steamy stuff, so I stole the book and read it when I got home and found there was a whole chapter devoted to bondage, and that slavery/domination/service/pain/control also figured across many other fantasies. This blew my mind. As in seriously peeled me open, made me realize that not only was I not a freak for thinking the way I did, but opened the very real possibility that not only wouldn’t all women judge me for what I craved, but that some of them thought the same way, wanted it, or at least fantasized about it too.
And that only changed everything.  

-At 18 I dated an older gal. One day I noticed she had ping pong paddles, but no table. Bright boy that I am, I inquired. One thing led to another and it came out that she had been a lesbian (I knew that) and served for 3 years a slave to a mistress (I had had no clue). The paddles got used that day, and then next, and the next. The day after that I came home with a cane and things evolved from there. It was mostly heavy play, not serious BDSM/ hardcore ownership, but she taught me a lot (Clubs, the scene, how to use whips, canes, etc...but most of all to get in her head, to let me wander in her darkness and that the head and heart are where real submission lies), as in everything, and I’m forever grateful to her.  

-The next big change came a bit later. I was doing a first sets of plays with a gal and we were on day two. First day had been light stuff, violent sex, some breath play, obscene penetrations, face slapping, hair yanking type of stuff.
Day two the hard stuff came out, canes, whips, those spiked ten pound clamps I love so much. And it started good, but, how to put this, slowly felt like it was disintegrating, that the scene was slipping out of my control, out of my hands. And she wasn’t reacting well. Not grooving into what I was doing, not falling into the rhythm of the play. Instead she was fighting (Or at least it looked/felt that way) even though she denied it, one of those her mouth says yes but body says no moments. I was young, and didn’t know better. Now I’d pause, slow down, get in her head, find out what’s up. Then, I just blasted through, took her at her word.
And she lost it. I mean completely lost it. Flailing, kicking, bawling. And I did what I had been taught. Ground the scene to an immediate stop. Yanked the dildos and plug out, took her down from the hook.
And did the right thing, held her till she came back. 
A few hours later, at a diner we were talking bout what happened ( She was doing that ”Its all my fault” slave thing and I was resisting, cuz it quite clearly was not) and she laid another epiphany on me (out of the mouth of babes and all). I asked what the hell happened, and she said that she couldn’t go through the wall easily, that she went kicking, screaming and crying, but she needed that release to break through to the other side, to find the calm flying beyond.
Yeah, that also changed lots.  

-And then I got into a serious TPE relationship. And I learned something critical, maybe The Critical Thing (Trademark pending at the One Twue Dom TM site).
See, I want to be a nice guy. I want to be seen as a decent guy. I want to see myself as a decent guy.
And that can be tough in two ways.
1-It’s hard to reconcile beating the woman you love to shit with being a decent man. In fact, it’s damn tough. I like brutal sex and real hard sessions and it can be difficulty looking yourself in the mirror while the girl who loves you sobs uncontrollably, her entire body covered with cane welts, tongue clipped and tits skewered, looking like a series of class A felonies. I used to crash real hard post play, emotional as well as mental crashes, much of which was rooted in the inherent conflict between caring and torture.
2-Being a good guy is averse to enforcing discipline. And this is huge. As in mammoth. When she fucked up, I wanted to cut her a break, and often did, because I wanted her to like me. And this was a major fuck up, and it’s one a lot of news guys do, especially because there’s a fear that if I act like an ass, she’ll leave and I hadn’t yet realized that I could always find another freaky chick to fuck. But that’s not cool, and this was, and still is, continually reinforced, not just in my relationship, but in talks I had, and have, with other female subs. The main reason for this is that, as crazy as it sounds, when I was trying to be nice, to be a good guy and not enforcing rules/discipline, I was in actuality hurting her in myriad ways.
First, by not enforcing the rules, or worse, enforcing them according to mood and whim, I was making her feel uncertain of the ground she stood on, of her role in the relationship, and more importantly, my role. Thus, it eroded the trust inherent, and with trust's loss, respect as well. In addition, by not enforcing the rules, by not holding her (And myself) to the standards I set, I was in effect and action, lying to her. She had come to me expecting a certain thing, a level of control and ownership that I had implied and stated I could give. By failing to create that structure, and then regularly maintain it, I was failing to live up to the contract between us.
And this is a complaint I heard again and again from women. “He won’t take control. I want him to do this, but he won’t. Or if he does, he’s tentative about it. Worst of all, he asks me if he can, or if I mind.” And I learned that some women wanted to give over, that they needed to, that they found sanctuary and identity in doing so.
And that they were going to serve someone.
So why not me?
I’m a decent guy (Not a nice guy, a decent one. I tend to speak my mind too much, to shoot from the hip w/o regards for others feelings to be anything but an asshole. Plus I mock the world. To it’s face. And that’s pretty much dickish shit). I’m not going to rape her. I’m not going to do ridiculous unsafe shit with her. I’m going to treat her with dignity, class and respect…and own every inch of the cunt.
Once I realized that, things flipped.
That lil tidbit meant that I could ethically do whatever I wanted and live with it…provided I was completely upfront about who and what I am going in.
And I am.
Anyone who reads my posts knows exactly what kind of stuff I like. There are no surprises here. When a girl serves/plays with me, she knows going in what hellish shit I am gonna rain down on her.
There are no fallbacks.
There are no you didn’t tell me’s
(Course I use that to my advantage, constantly reminding her while she makes those wonderful mewling noises that she signed up willingly, that she was such a slut that shedidshedid so WTF does that make her—mmmuuuaaaaaaaaaahhhhh)
When I meet a gal with intent she, by showing up, is admitting by implication that she wants me to do the things I do to her.
Which makes her a wonderfully worthless piece of fuckslutmeat. One that I treat accordingly. And that is a joyous thing.  

That’s half the game.

The other half is simply growing up, getting rid of the insecurities I had as a child. I’ve gone through the school of hard knocks and then some, broken over 50 bones, been homeless, stabbed, shot at, gone through windshields, had the paddles slapped on my chest, taken the $5,000 shock trauma helicopter ride. I’ve slept on streets, watched my best friend die, twice. I’ve been strung out, run down, ignited, addicted, inflicted, rejected and neglected. I’ve witnessed someone shot so close the wound smoked from the speed of the bullet hitting the skull. I’ve seen heinous shit.

I’ve achieved a few goals, run a company or two, hired and fired, been rich, been broke. I’ve lived with a prostitute (Not dated, just lived with) and dated escorts, porn chicks and an NFL cheerleader. I’ve fallen in love again and again and had my heart broken until I hurt like I didn’t know a person could be hurt. I’ve danced on the razors edge my entire life, chasing.
And I’ve survived.
And after a while those little fears slip away as I realized how small and futile most of them were.
And that simplified things.  

I’ll say this as a closing thought. I suspect most folks think I’m kinda extreme in my perspectives on BDSM, in how I live my life. And that’s cool. Whatever works for anyone is great with me. But what I think most folks may miss is that the reason I am extreme is that it makes things simple. I have no ambiguities in my relationships. There are no negotiations. There are no limits for me to remember or rules to have to follow. She never has to not know her place. I own. She serves. It’s that simple. And that makes it easier on both of us.
See how easy that was?

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/9/2011 11:41:51 AM   
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well that was a flipping awesome read =p

i want to quote stuff and ask questions, but i think i'll refrain for now.

actually, i am going to quote something, but i don't know if i'm going to ask anything about it, just quote it. 
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The main reason for this is that, as crazy as it sounds, when I was trying to be nice, to be a good guy and not enforcing rules/discipline, I was in actuality hurting her in myriad ways.
First, by not enforcing the rules, or worse, enforcing them according to mood and whim, I was making her feel uncertain of the ground she stood on, of her role in the relationship, and more importantly, my role. Thus, it eroded the trust inherent, and thus respect as well. In addition, by not enforcing the rules, by not holding her (And myself) to the standards I set, I was in effect and action, lying to her. She had come to me expecting a certain thing, a level of control and ownership that I had implied and stated I could give. By failing to create that structure, and then regularly maintain it, I was failing to live up to the contract between us.
And this is a complaint I heard again and again from women. “He won’t take control. I want him to do this, but he won’t. Or if he does, he’s tentative about it. Worst of all, he asks me if he can, or if I mind.” And I learned that some women wanted to give over, that they needed to, that they found sanctuary and identity in doing so.
And that they were going to serve someone.


the flip side of that is complicated, too -- being that girl with someone who can't or won't take control to the degree that you need. it can send you back to the pre-adolescent "what the hell is wrong with me?" thing. =p  i think that's what some people don't understand.
what is worse really -- being in a relationship that is fulfilling to no end, despite the fact that it looks horrible to someone who doesn't get it, or feeling that way?

okay that's all for now.

the cogs in my brain are drowning out everything else. haha

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/9/2011 12:00:47 PM   
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I was recently asked a question.

A woman keeps running across men who are uncomfortable with their Dom side.  As in, "I'm a good man, but I have a bad side, or underbelly." 

She's wondering if it's a safety issue as she explores her masochistic side.  I feel that this could actually be a positive as a sadist who feels conflicted will likely not go too far.

The other aspect is that outside of play, a conflicted Dom IMO may not be assertive enough for a sub.  Then again, we can't all be as unconflicted as Kana, for example.

Any thoughts?  Are you aware of any book, or site, that addresses the conflicted Dom? 


I doubt that could directly be a safety issue, I think I remember reading somewhere on here that it's fairly common among new doms (though I suppose that being a new dom could be a safety issue). For myself, when I was very young (as in the single digits) I remember being uncomfortable that my desires differed significantly from what society told me they should be. I'd resolved that well before girls became a hands on event but the issue came back up once love came into things.

The first few times my loved one started sobbing as she tried to thrash her way out of her restraints I definitely found myself having some conflicting feelings and it took a little while to work through that mentally. 

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/9/2011 12:01:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

well that was a flipping awesome read =p

i want to quote stuff and ask questions, but i think i'll refrain for now.

actually, i am going to quote something, but i don't know if i'm going to ask anything about it, just quote it. 
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The main reason for this is that, as crazy as it sounds, when I was trying to be nice, to be a good guy and not enforcing rules/discipline, I was in actuality hurting her in myriad ways.
First, by not enforcing the rules, or worse, enforcing them according to mood and whim, I was making her feel uncertain of the ground she stood on, of her role in the relationship, and more importantly, my role. Thus, it eroded the trust inherent, and thus respect as well. In addition, by not enforcing the rules, by not holding her (And myself) to the standards I set, I was in effect and action, lying to her. She had come to me expecting a certain thing, a level of control and ownership that I had implied and stated I could give. By failing to create that structure, and then regularly maintain it, I was failing to live up to the contract between us.
And this is a complaint I heard again and again from women. “He won’t take control. I want him to do this, but he won’t. Or if he does, he’s tentative about it. Worst of all, he asks me if he can, or if I mind.” And I learned that some women wanted to give over, that they needed to, that they found sanctuary and identity in doing so.
And that they were going to serve someone.


the flip side of that is complicated, too -- being that girl with someone who can't or won't take control to the degree that you need. it can send you back to the pre-adolescent "what the hell is wrong with me?" thing. =p  i think that's what some people don't understand.
what is worse really -- being in a relationship that is fulfilling to no end, despite the fact that it looks horrible to someone who doesn't get it, or feeling that way?

okay that's all for now.

the cogs in my brain are drowning out everything else. haha


That's pretty much the standard slave/sub reaction.
WTF am I doing wrong" What could I do better. And nothing, I mean nothing, makes most s/s types more uncomfortable than having to ask/show/tell him what they want.
Hell, that defies the purpose. They want him to take, to hit that spot where they feel (and if playing with me case, are) helpless, where they succumb. It's who they are. It's why they are there.
That's the heart of all the shit that we do right there.
And so many guys miss it cuz they're scared to take the reins.

And I'll tell ya what. I did it too.
Missed what could have been one of the best relationships of my life with an amazing, amazing woman because I just didn't know better, didn't know what I just wrote.
Hence my post.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/11/2011 1:23:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
If a guy with little or no experience isn't conflicted about this I'd advise her to not get involved. That screams sociopath to me.


I have to agree wholeheartedly with this.
I spent my entire youth - since elementary school - beating up bullies who derived satisfaction from hurting others; it was the only way to stop them. Such persons were always my sworn enemies. I did this all the way up into my 30's.
My moralities and ethics - since I can remember - prohibited me from deriving satisfaction from the hurting of others.
Yet here I am as a Dominant getting hard when I'm whipping a woman I love and care deeply about.

In my experience there is simply a sociopathic tendency which is able to find its very easy way into this lifestyle and should be avoided at all costs. I have personally known sociopaths who have entered the BDSM lifestyle - and that is frightening to me. You want someone who is or has been conflicted because that means they have a deeper respect for life and well-being. The worst nightmare is someone who is not conflicted and has no respect for life or well-being. Imagine being in that scenario with no-one to impose a morality or intervene; then we're talking about the very worst of sadistic criminals and a situation I would never wish to imagine.

I'm just learning to deal with my own sadism. I never expected this from myself. I'm caring and protective, and always have been. My enemy is the sociopath. The sociopath has zero conflict - and only the sociopath has zero conflict.
At some point I will come to terms with my sadistic self. But that self is very much different than those without conflict. After all is said and done, the difference between me and a sociopath is that conflict. This is the difference which keeps you safe or not.

I can't speak about what happens after I accept this sadistic part of me, but I will always know one thing; there is something of extreme importance which separates me from the sadistic criminal - and always will; and that is this exact conflict which I now deal with.
"Safe, Sane, and Consensual."
This 'mantra' is not for the average Dom, because the average Dom already knows this inherently as a Human Being. This mantra is for the sociopath who actually needs to be educated in this because they have no conflict. They actually need to have this trio of laws drilled into them because without it they will go beyond safe and sane and consensual.
This conflict is the only thing which separates Humans from sociopaths. I can't speak for those who have come to terms with this conflict; but that they had to come to terms with it makes all the difference in the world.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/11/2011 2:41:58 AM   
RichardAS


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
"hurting" me wasn't the same as harming me.

Thanks so much for that differentiation.
Amazing what the simplest of statements can make.

Now I have some matters to attend to.

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RE: A Dom who feels guilty about being one? - 11/13/2011 3:48:11 AM   
mons


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I had such a time with being a dominant woman, there is church and with black people anyone
whom does something different is label a freak!  Then I had the problem with my feeling of submissive nature!
It is known i do not trust anyone who has control over me!

I was beaten up for three or more years by someone whom out weight me by 150lbs, it was not just hitting it was choking ,
shoving through glass, rape, kicking all of the things someone can think of to harm a woman!  Whom is smaller and
can not fight back!  But I did he wears the "stab mark" i made just for him! 

I have learned i am a dominant, not a submissive but i am very happy that they can let go and trust,
it must be great then i also have a sadist side that i find thrilling!  I know me so I know i would never harm
someone! I learn to be a christain and still be a dominant woman!  The power i feel makes me strong , and
able to understand when someone is new they and i know everyone feels this way but they can trust me not
to bring harm to them, my submissive came over he was so nervous, oh no it is private!

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