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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 7:58:36 AM   
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exactly, Core..

many prayers and warm thoughts to you, your friend, and all who love her...

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:00:53 AM   
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Now, I would like an answer a question I have repeatedly asked on this thread.

Would this be an acceptable practice in the workplace?

I mean that IS what college is for, getting people ready for the work place, right?


As a manager of a company, where I am the only woman employee at the moment, I can quite clearly say NO, it would not be tolerated here. If anything even close happened, in this company, we would have a lawsuit that would very likely be the demise of the company. I am quite certain it would fall under the 'sexual harassment' category.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:01:12 AM   
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thank you very much

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:02:28 AM   
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(using the statistics that roughly one in four women who've been raped according to interviewers, think that they've been raped by their own definition)


You misread the stats and when I get over this cold I'll tell you how if you haven't figured it out by then.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:02:30 AM   
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Whether the rapes are on campus or off (in the case of UVM, there's not much on campus housing) doesn't really matter. I'm looking for the smoking gun- the claim that we have 50 rapes per year (using the statistics that roughly one in four women who've been raped according to interviewers, think that they've been raped by their own definition) to deal with- documented by police reports or by some source that show that there is in fact, some objective reality behind these wild statistical claims and not just estimates.

And if we buy that serial campus rapists commit half a dozen rapes per year- that's still 32 rapists wandering around- plus the 20 or so non-serial rapists. If rape is such a traumatic event (and I think it is!) then are women going to forget about it because it happened last week?

At what point does this all become a house of cards? I think we're long past it....

Sam


I never said they committed 6 rapes a year: they commit 6 rapes before getting caught on average.


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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:04:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CoreFocus

Since yesterday I think differently..about everything that is discussed here.
A good friend is raped by her "friend". Right now..perhaps emotional...I am even disgusted by jokes about rape.
That is not fair perhaps, I know....but neither is the rape.
What I do know is that when some one close rapes you..it will is very hard for the person to report. Somehow they still think/worry about "the family"or "friend circle".


Core, my thoughts are with you and your friend.

I think you have brought up the very core of this particular issue. The rapes that happen, that are not reported. Many men tend to fall on the side of the fence that it is not a 'real' rape. After all, the woman was not accosted and beaten in a dark alley by the nefarious evil faceless stranger! They just do not get this issue at all. Sad, but evident.


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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:14:17 AM   
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I think you have brought up the very core of this particular issue. The rapes that happen, that are not reported. Many men tend to fall on the side of the fence that it is not a 'real' rape. After all, the woman was not accosted and beaten in a dark alley by the nefarious evil faceless stranger! They just do not get this issue at all. Sad, but evident.

At one time my garage was broken into but nothing of value was taken (I think they heard someone and fled before they could steal anything).. I didnt report the burglary to the police.. that didnt mean that it didnt happen, just that i didnt see the point in reporting a crime when i didnt think anything would come from it... Rape is the same way... I wonder,.. today, how many women on this forum would report it if that happened to them.. I am not sure what I would do..

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:18:45 AM   
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I cannot say for certain what I would do. But I do know that none of the women I know, that have been, reported it. Not one.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:21:08 AM   
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We had a talk about reporting. She will think about it.
Hopefully she will go monday. Don't want to push to much.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:31:20 AM   
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The university is home to 10,459 undergraduates, 1,540 graduate students, 449 medical students and 1,471 full- and part-time faculty.

Student Life

Total enrollment: 13,488
Undergraduate students: 10,459
Graduate students: 1,540
Medical students: 449
Post-baccalaureate certificate students: 17
Non-degree (CE) students: 1,023

http://www.uvm.edu/about_uvm/?Page=facts.html

How many live on campus?

How many are married and living off campus?

How many commute from their homes?

Joseph Shapiro of NPR reports: “[Lisak] found them by, over a 20-year period, asking some 2,000 men in college questions like this: “Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone, even though they did not want to, because they were too intoxicated [on alcohol or drugs] to resist your sexual advances?” Or: “Have you ever had sexual intercourse with an adult when they didn’t want to because you used physical force [twisting their arm, holding them down, etc.] if they didn’t cooperate?”

About 1 in 16 men answered “yes” to these or similar questions. That’s just over 6 percent. That means a staggering amount of undocumented sexual assault on college campuses. And we’re not talking mistakes or misconstrued intentions, we’re talking about deliberate sexual assault. Pretty terrifying, right?

It gets scarier. Lisak says that it was actually pretty easy to get these men to talk, even though they’re admitting to having committed egregious crimes. “They are very forthcoming,” he says. “In fact, they are eager to talk about their experiences. They’re quite narcissistic as a group — the offenders — and they view this as an opportunity, essentially, to brag.”

Lisak found that many students who commit rape are serial rapists. On college campuses, repeat predators account for 9 out of every 10 rapes. And they look for the most vulnerable women on campus – freshmen women. These men, Lisak says, don’t think of themselves as rapists. They don’t use the weapons usually associated with rape. Instead, they use alcohol.


Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/college-rapist.html#ixzz1i2CvNOtD

Public

University of Pittsburgh

Private

Carlow University
Carnegie Mellon University
Chatham University
Duquesne University
Point Park University
Robert Morris University

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_Pittsburgh

Some stay on campus.. many more stay off campus. Oakland housing is almost all university related.

Pitt University has, alone...

Students 28,823
Undergraduates 18,371
Postgraduates 10,452

The problem, Sam, with your math is that you are assuming all campus rapes are caused by student males... and that student males only rape campus women. Both of which are not the truth. So, when you do your math and you state that you just cant see how 264 rapists on campus can be factual, its rather easy to see how. Rapists do not limit themselves to just college women. Just like they dont limit themselves to college bars, college events, even college housing.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:33:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CoreFocus

Since yesterday I think differently..about everything that is discussed here.
A good friend is raped by her "friend". Right now..perhaps emotional...I am even disgusted by jokes about rape.
That is not fair perhaps, I know....but neither is the rape.
What I do know is that when some one close rapes you..it will is very hard for the person to report. Somehow they still think/worry about "the family"or "friend circle".


I am so sorry for your friend, Core.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:36:11 AM   
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And if we buy that serial campus rapists commit half a dozen rapes per year- that's still 32 rapists wandering around- plus the 20 or so non-serial rapists. If rape is such a traumatic event (and I think it is!) then are women going to forget about it because it happened last week?

At what point does this all become a house of cards? I think we're long past it....

Sam


Just because a woman does not report it doesnt mean it didnt happen, doesnt mean she forgets, doesnt mean it wasnt traumatic, doesnt mean we shouldnt give a damn.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:38:15 AM   
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As a manager of a company, where I am the only woman employee at the moment, I can quite clearly say NO, it would not be tolerated here. If anything even close happened, in this company, we would have a lawsuit that would very likely be the demise of the company. I am quite certain it would fall under the 'sexual harassment' category.


Thank you LaT. Its not surprising that Sam would not answer this question.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 8:53:27 AM   
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According to a national survey of college women, less than 5% of completed and attempted rapes were reported to the police. (Fisher, Cullen and Turner, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 2000)

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf

A very enlightening study.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 9:09:28 AM   
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I have been raped twice by individuals, twice gang raped.

I did not report any because first, I wasnt sure I could be SURE of the rapists identities, and also because of the fear of being discounted due to the situations.

well, I DID report one of them, but not to the police, I reported it to the folks I was hanging out with then. Resolved.



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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 9:12:14 AM   
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well, I DID report one of them, but not to the police, I reported it to the folks I was hanging out with then. Resolved.


I was sexually assaulted as a teen. I barely got out without being raped. I reported it to my brothers.

Resolved without a single official report.

Its hard to know these things happen, to have them happen to you personally, then have someone come along to tell you its a lie.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 9:18:48 AM   
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it's sad when the most effective method of resolution doesnt involve the law enforcement methods in place.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 9:20:00 AM   
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Indeed.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 9:31:26 AM   
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Who is unfamiliar with the concept that "Rape trials often turn against the victim, making it seem like they are The Accused," which came out about the time of the two rape on campus surveys (late 1980's.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Araujo

Cheryl Ann Araujo (1961–1986) was an American rape survivor whose case became national news, and was the basis of the 1988 film The Accused. Araujo was gang-raped in 1983 at age 21 by four men on a pool table in a tavern while other patrons watched but did not interfere. During the prosecution, the defendants' attorneys cross-examined Araujo to such an extent that the case became widely seen as a template for "blaming the victim" in rape cases. The case also raised tensions between the Portuguese-American community and other ethnic groups in New Bedford, as the defendants were Portuguese immigrants. Her case was widely known as the "Big Dan's rape" after the name of the bar in which the attack occurred.

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RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus - 12/30/2011 11:57:22 AM   
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So Sam, you are trying to say that you believe the statistics are vastly overstated?
I believe they are understated. I would bet you the farm that it's closer to one in three or perhaps even one in two American women who have been raped (or sexually assaulted) at some point in their life.
But even if it is one in four, or five or even six, the numbers are far too great.
And men who discount the numbers, discount the victims as well.

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