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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/6/2006 1:18:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: Calandra

In my opinion, you make choices for you, I make choices for me.

If you put information about yourself in a place where others can find it, be prepared for those others to make that information public. If you can't have your lifestyle discovered, don't tell anyone...

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i once found a picture of me on an advertisement for an erotica site. It did not show my face, but was obviously me. i took a picture of it and showed it to my husband. Neither of us could be angry.

I am the one who was on cam in a provocative way. I knew the technology was available to unscrupulous hijackers. Everyone thought i should be outraged. However, i had the knowledge. I was/am the one responsible for my behavior. If i cared who viewed it, or used it, i should not have put it in a public forum where "just anyone" could get there paws on it. Too many put their trust in virtual strangers, much too easily.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/6/2006 1:19:31 PM

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I see a lot of recently created screennames that I pretty much discount the opinions of. As far as Slaverosebeauty, I think she didn't mean to cause the trouble she did. She implied on her blog that she is manic depressive and maybe that is the case. I'm willing to give her a break on that basis alone, although the whole thing was fucked up. I mean she posted the email of many well known posters here who had written her.

Like I said, who the hell knows, I could have emailed her (thank goodness I didn't) in some misguided attempt that she could have taken completely wrong. One thing I do notice is the posters she outed have disappeared from posting and that represents the effects of what things like this do. Fucked up...and peace.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/6/2006 6:26:37 PM

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Shame on whom, exactly? Hmmmm... remind me, who used the word 'shame' in the beginning? Such an outdated thing to say: this is a valid discussion, I think, and I see nothing wrong in debating the subject.

I, for one, feel no shame whatsoever.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/6/2006 6:59:28 PM

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i once found a picture of me on an advertisement for an erotica site. It did not show my face, but was obviously me. i took a picture of it and showed it to my husband. Neither of us could be angry.

That is exactly why i left the two cam sites i used to play on.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/6/2006 7:22:52 PM

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Yup, it has been suggested that the person in question might be a smelly, pot-bellied old fart who does this for kicks...

HEY!!!
Some of us smelly, pot-bellied old farts are rather nice you know!

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/9/2006 5:34:58 PM

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Ha. DreamMistress IS SlaveRoseBeauty. An alternate nic she uses when people block her so she can have the last word.

Oh, I'm sorry...did I just Out her?

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/9/2006 9:33:06 PM

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Drew, thank you so much for the information. Now I understand.

You outed nobody, just made something clear.

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 8:22:26 PM

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A couple of random thoughts that ran through my mind as I read the latter posts in this thread:

1. The venom and anger the BOS owner directed toward posters in the thread is more than a little ironic. It reads a lot like, "I will post what I want/choose about anyone, make whatever nasty comments about anyone I feel like making, but don't you dare do the same to me...because it's slander!" See point 2.

2. Serving on jury duty, reading an assortment of law journals (large or small), and 'hanging around lawyers' does not a lawyer make. Nor does it qualify one to make absolute statements regarding legal issues--especially since internet law is an enourmous grey area in itself. That aside, you might want to consider cracking those law texts again. Here's a head start for ya.

"Slander is a form of defamation that is made by spoken words or gestures that don't exist in permanent form. To prove slander, witnesses must be provided to suggest that the defamation actually occurred and the statement must be proven to be slanderous - to have caused actual financial or material loss."

"Libel is a derogatory or defamatory statement that is permanent because it's in writing, on film, or in a picture. This includes all print products, radio and TV programmes and even stage plays. To prove libel, you must prove that the publication of this defamatory statement has caused actual financial or material loss to the person involved."

At least get the terminology correct. And yep, that's UK law.

3. I keep seeing 'people really ENJOYED reading the BOS' as if it's some sort of justification. History lesson: People also ENJOYED watching horrific and bloody massacres in the Roman Coliseum; it didn't make it a good thing. They also enjoy brutal dog fights, blood sports, Jerry Springer-type talk shows, and rubber-necking at the sight of a twisted car wreck. Food for thought.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 8:25:11 PM

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Speaking of a thread that should die........

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 8:36:59 PM

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Heh, just noticed the last post date was 19 days ago...my bad.

What can I say? It took me that long to read through the entire thread.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 9:08:37 PM

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You know..... this is going to sound really simplistic, but there is never a good reason to do the wrong thing out of spite.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 9:50:44 PM

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To do such a thing would be, in my humble opinion, shameful. Then again, I work in a world where client confidentiality is demanded by law, so I just cannot fathom someone breaching another person's privacy (in whatever little way it may be to be tucked away under the big CollarMe umbrella).

People who would do such a thing would probably dispose of unwanted pets/animals along the highway. Deplorable in every sense of the word...

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/28/2006 10:10:16 PM

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Ethical noooo way in hell....but is it Ethical to decieve?
Outing.....well as a kid I learnd shame and lieing are best friends if you need to hide something you can bet somebody will use it against you.......so disarm them and stop hiding.....then outing becomes a joke. And tada there is ethics nobody can fault!

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 1:56:24 AM

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No. I feel it is nobody's privilege to "out" someone else. That prerogative belongs only to them (doesn't mean it might not happen, though). Actually, if someone was "outed" and there was a lot of "fallout" such as they lost their job, their family, etc. - they might be able to sue - maybe not win (but maybe they would). It would be an ugly battle if they did sue, I pretty am sure, though. -Susan

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 5:21:47 AM

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Man this dog had been sleeping so well. Someone HAD to go and wake it up.

edited for word choice and to add *fast reply*

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 9:10:25 AM

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What differences does it make,you are who you are.Get out there and make it happen.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 1:26:59 PM

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No way to say it better than it has already been said. Though I would also feel a sort of betrayal of trust. Besides What honorable pupose could such actions have?

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 1:43:48 PM

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hmmm not sure what you are asking-do you mean it is ok to copy emails from one site to a journal on another site---for thats the only way one can see things "publically"---well I'd say no, however, this IS the internet, kind of like mooning in a public park---one can do a ton of things that aren't ethical, however, those of Us that are ethical would NOT even think of doing that---the "nannienannie boo boo" concept doesn't float with most of us. If I cannot trust a spouse or a mate, well shame on Me and if they appear conversing about Me elsewhere--well its the last conversation they will ever have---about Me.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 6/29/2006 2:11:23 PM

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~quicky~

Karma is a vicious thing. Consider how it would feel to be outed in your community. It may have no relevance to you but it could effect your family, unmentionables, and your friends.

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RE: Outing Collarme members on vanilla websites...? - 7/3/2006 9:33:51 AM

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Maybe i do not quite get the question as asked, yet i feel my opinion here might help...
i do link this profile to other profiles i have on both BDSM sites and 'nilla sites. Even in r/t i am very open about who/what i am and where my interest lie. With this " helpfull information" on my many profiles, i have brought more than O/one newbie to T/their first r/t munch. T/they contact me, W/we chat, i share links and information with them.... Next thing i know a newbie at a munch/slosh walkes up, introduces themself and thanks me for getting them there.... Even though i did not take them there, it was not my decision for T/them to go, T/they feel without O/one being willing to share info, T/they never would have taken that step to find this lifestyle in R/T.
knowledge kept is knowledge lost as knowledge shared is knowledge retained.
i liken this to many time is R/T events when i have woken to find my picture plasterd in the papers unknowingly, being out in a public place is all the reason one needs to take ones picture and post it in the papers... Even though often it is rather derogitory statments attached to those images, they are simply ones opinion, thus, public place = public pictures, freedom of speach... its all leagal.. here, O/one is in a public forum..... 'nilla's may well stragle in from anothers profile link, serch, or whatever, yet that person did not out Y/you. Y/you outed yourself as Y/you posted to a "public" chat venue....
T/those W/whom truely worry about being outed, in my opinion, have no buisness posting T/their pics here.... Would it not be better to privately email O/ones pictures upon request? Or is it more that O/one wishes the attentions a pic might get verses the privacy T/those without pics enjoy??
naomi

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