sub got upset cutting clothes off

sub got upset cutting clothes off (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Master

Message

artglfr -> sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 4:10:52 PM)
Last night I was being very kind to My sub by keeping her in Bondage and flogging her while she still had her clothes on to start with. As she was in sub space so totally I decided to use the knife I was using on her to cut her blouse off which I enjoyed doing very much. Apparently she didn't at all. after I saw she was out of sub space I asked her what was up and she said "we never negotiated that...You cutting my clothes off!" We actually had and I had mentioned I was going to one day but she wasn't real happy. I untied her and gave her a cookie and sent her outside to cool off. Sometimes it's not so easy is it?

proudsub -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 4:26:56 PM)
quote: We actually had and I had mentioned I was going to one day but she wasn't real happy. And did she agree to it? I would be upset too if it weren't prearranged. Maybe it would help if you offer to replace her blouse with a new one.

sublizzie -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 4:33:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: proudsub And did she agree to it? I would be upset too if it weren't prearranged. Maybe it would help if you offer to replace her blouse with a new one. Particularly if it was expensive!

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 4:41:41 PM)
quote: Sometimes it's not so easy is it? Nope, sometimes it's not.

CollaredProperty -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:10:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: artglfr Last night I was being very kind to My sub by keeping her in Bondage and flogging her while she still had her clothes on to start with. As she was in sub space so totally I decided to use the knife I was using on her to cut her blouse off which I enjoyed doing very much. Apparently she didn't at all. after I saw she was out of sub space I asked her what was up and she said "we never negotiated that...You cutting my clothes off!" We actually had and I had mentioned I was going to one day but she wasn't real happy. I untied her and gave her a cookie and sent her outside to cool off. Sometimes it's not so easy is it? Knowing how expensive women's clothing is especially fettish wear, You should have negotiated ahead of time. I have done lot's of scenes where clothes were cut off, but they were not my best clothes, but clothes I actually did not mind to sacrafice. Buy her a new complete outfit .....with an appology ......I bet it will do the trick or at least make up for the situation. slave susan

KnightofMists -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:15:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: artglfr Sometimes it's not so easy is it? This is the inherent risk of consent.... it can be revoked at any moment. I suppose that is why in my primary relationships I restrict it to a M/s structure. In that revoking of consent means ending the relationship. I don't negotiate with my girls. I did a similar scene with alandra a couple years ago. She was told to dress up in a very classy and elegant outfit. I think her expectation was that I was going to take her out for a nice supper etc. Instead, I took her a dungeon of someone I knew. I tied her arms up to the hooks above and then proceeded to rip her clothes off. Myself and the person I knew then proceed to use her in a variety of ways for many hours. At any moment alandra could of revoked consent, or become very pissy afterwards and allowed alot of negative behaviors to project her feelings at me for what I had done with her. However, alandra has understood the authority with the relationship for a very long time an also understands the consequence of removing consent. She is able to walk the talk because it is an intrinsic part of who she is within our relationship. She doesn't need to seek to give consent... She gave it. She seeks to demonstrate her consent constantly by obeying my will. She hold on to one external fact. She holds On that I will do my will with her but I shall not harm her. She understands that she is a part of my existence like my arm or hearts is apart of me. She understands that I could no more cut off my arm or rip my heart out than I could desire to harm her. To harm her or my lovely kyra equates to self-abuse to me. It has been my focus to make my girls a part of who I am. In some ways they are the very part of who i am, alot of ways actually.

Wulfchyld -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:15:52 PM)
As a general rule if you come to Lokiwood wear some of your favorite goodwill clothing and I will personally auction the rags off as souvenirs.

Sinergy -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:17:01 PM)
Hello A/all, If I plan to destroy somebodies clothing, I am going to be damn sure to pay to replace it. Or just give her one of my old business shirts to wear and cut that off her. Which gives me weird feelings similar to the site of a bound submissive in a cheerleader outfit does. But thats just me, as usual, and Im probably incorrect. Sinergy

CollaredProperty -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:18:35 PM)
Loki, sounds wonderfull and you look hot in Your Leather. slave susan

CollaredProperty -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy Hello A/all, If I plan to destroy somebodies clothing, I am going to be damn sure to pay to replace it. Or just give her one of my old business shirts to wear and cut that off her. Which gives me weird feelings similar to the site of a bound submissive in a cheerleader outfit does. But thats just me, as usual, and Im probably incorrect. Sinergy I think a Gentleman would do such things. slave susan

Wulfchyld -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:24:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty Loki, sounds wonderfull and you look hot in Your Leather. slave susan Thank ya luv, but if you come to Lokiwood you should have your mail forwarded. I would most likely keep you.

Sinergy -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:27:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty I think a Gentleman would do such things. slave susan Thank you very much, susan. It is somewhat in keeping with my ideal about being a Dominant. I am a firm believer in the code of chivalry. Just me, etc. Sinergy

zumala -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:35:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld quote: ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty Loki, sounds wonderfull and you look hot in Your Leather. slave susan Thank ya luv, but if you come to Lokiwood you should have your mail forwarded. I would most likely keep you. chuckles One of these days I'll probably ask more about Lokiwood, but given that I'm not up for grabs, I doubt I'd be invited. I don't have CP's looks, either. [;)] zuma

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:37:56 PM)
Let's also remember that a person isn't at their most rational and calm and logical when coming out of subspace. An irrational immediate reaction wouldn't be surprising. And yes, she may have consented to it "at some point in the future" but I gotta tell you that if someone cut off my grandmothers favorite shirt that's kinda irreplaceable, I'd prefer they let me know ahead of time. Lilely this situation wasn't as severe as that, but it's usually good practice to let someone know, unless you KNOW the clothing isn't important ot expensive, that they should wear something disposable.

artglfr -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:39:55 PM)
The subs say "buy her a new outfit", cool,! I wonder where she got that outfit in the first place? We had negotiated !she knew We were going to play in fact she asked Me if I would play with her. I had told her I was going to cut her clothes off but I did not say when. The day I have to ask her permission is the day I say "goodbye" to her. I hope this does not happen I care for her and protect her so I was surprised when she said this. I had always felt she knew she was safe and cared for but now I am having to talk to her about this. She said she grew up poor and didn't have nice clothes then, I told her those days were over and now she does as well as a nice place to stay. I was knocked for a loop because I saw her drop from sub space which of course triggered a dom drop for me. I had her sit by me after she came back in and talked to her about it. Now EVERY time We go into "space" she is aware there is the possibility I will cut all of her clothes off. As many have mentioned I guess I hadn't negotiated as well as I thought I had with her. Now she knows and is ok so I guess it is all good. Thanks for the replies.

ownedgirlie -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:42:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists I did a similar scene with alandra a couple years ago. She was told to dress up in a very classy and elegant outfit. I think her expectation was that I was going to take her out for a nice supper etc. Instead, I took her a dungeon of someone I knew. I tied her arms up to the hooks above and then proceeded to rip her clothes off. Myself and the person I knew then proceed to use her in a variety of ways for many hours. That sounds wild and amazing. Master owns me, therefore he owns my clothes. What are clothes but material objects? Personally I would be more happy that Master even wanted to use me in such a way to entertain himself than upset that I am out a piece of nice clothing. Then again, I am in an M/s dynamic and negotiations are not part of what we have. He does what he wants. It's what I signed up for, and what I need. And I am grateful for it. Now, if he did this every time we were together, I might express concern about my diminishing wardrobe...lol.

Wulfchyld -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:42:38 PM)
Everyone is invited. As it stands Lokiwood will be the first solid weekend of OCT. the 7th I think. I will make a website for everyone to join and will send out maps and invitations to all who sign up. It is a privet party, as per OK law, so you have to have your invite to get in. twicehappy and her house are helping with the details and such.

Wulfchyld -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:45:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: artglfr I had told her I was going to cut her clothes off but I did not say when. The day I have to ask her permission is the day I say "goodbye" to her. So is it fair that she said she would be faithful and you get some "Creepy crawely nasty" and she says she didnt say when; you would be okay with that?

MasterR001 -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:47:51 PM)
When I want to rip or cut a subs clothes off, I buy the outfit for the scene. It saves a lot of trouble in the long run.

MistressDeAnnya -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 5:48:56 PM)
I learned the hard way about cutting and ripping someones clothes off (which I love doing) Once I ripped a guys shirt off at a bar and instead of him being turned on he was upset and said "Hey thats my new shirt!" Now I pass out the old tshirts and other clothes I have saved for the occasion, and they love having them ripped off. (since thier not thier good clothes) Mistress DeAnnya

Page: [1] 2 3 4 5 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

9.179688E-02