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Wulfchyld -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:14:43 PM)

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Vendaval -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:23:58 PM)

Hello benji.  (Pulls out riding crop and paddle)
Just a bit harder, yes....
 
Vendaval


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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

hey, I like the newspaper, just a bit harder.

Yours,


benji



gooddogbenji -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:27:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Hello benji.  (Pulls out riding crop and paddle)
Just a bit harder, yes....
 
Vendaval



Only a crop, ya pansy?  LOL!!!!

And before anyone comments, no, I don't have the huevos to say that in real life, although I have thought it often.

Yours,


benji



desertdancer -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:29:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: artglfr

.  I had told her I was going to cut her clothes off but I did not say when. The day I have to ask her permission is the day I say "goodbye" to her.





I'm a little worried about this, I hope you mean this only in the clothing context.. I know slaves give concent once and mostly only once, but it sounds more like this lass is a sub to you, so her permission for everything should be first and formost in your mind, not a reason to say goodbye...

..that said, I have some very nice clothing, some I've saved up for, others I just adore, but they are just items, I think I could easily let them go, be ripped or torn to please the one I am with, yes it would be nice, to know ahead of time, so that I wouldnt throw on my favorite blose, but it wouldnt be a break it for me if my favorite blose got ruined,

Most clothing items can be replaced in one form or another, my Master is unreplacable to me


yours, dancer



Vendaval -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:38:25 PM)

You are in for it now, doggy boy.
(Pulls out the 3 foot club and the steel paddle)
 
Stay on all fours and keep your head down.
If you scream too much then you get the ball
gag along with the butt plug and the Depends again.
 
Vendaval
 


quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Only a crop, ya pansy?  LOL!!!!

And before anyone comments, no, I don't have the huevos to say that in real life, although I have thought it often.

Yours,


benji



gooddogbenji -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:47:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

You are in for it now, doggy boy.
(Pulls out the 3 foot club and the steel paddle)
 
Stay on all fours and keep your head down.
If you scream too much then you get the ball
gag along with the butt plug and the Depends again.
 
Vendaval
 


Don't worry about keeping my head down.  Just wake me whe it's over.  If I sleep too much during the day, I'll never get to sleep tonight.

Yours,


benji



Vendaval -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 7:59:09 PM)

Mouthing little SAM, are you? 
(Pulls out the tens unit, violent wand, heavy floggers, bull-whips)
 
Or are you still playing macho-pup?

Vendaval


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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji



Don't worry about keeping my head down.  Just wake me whe it's over.  If I sleep too much during the day, I'll never get to sleep tonight.

Yours,


benji



CrappyDom -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 8:42:36 PM)

You guys would really negotiate that level of detail?  Sheesh.  I remember finding a woman laying naked except for a nice thong and not sure of what exactly to do with her, but of course wanting to make a good impression, I flicked open my switchblade beside her ear and sliced off the two strings.  She had the most beautiful pair of labias I have ever seen....

Of course I took her to VS the next day and spent a small fortune but god she looked good in every piece.  I don't recall her mentioning anything about my cutting her underwear off so she mustn't of cared.



Lashra -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 9:09:19 PM)

Yep next time prearrange it sounds like she didnt want those clothes cut off. I've cut clothes off my sub but I tell him wear something you dont mind being torn or cut off. he does and theres no problem.

~Lashra



artglfr -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 9:16:23 PM)

Thanks, I have discussed it with her and she now is aware that every time We play there is the possibility of clothing being cut so she may now wear appropriate clothing. At Large play parties she may wear her dressy Kink clothing and then change to destroyable clothing before We play.

I would never cut her good clothing off, after all she cooks my food.



ownedgirlie -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 9:52:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

But just like I wouldn't expect a master to tell me to burn my nephews baby pictures just so he could get a sadistic thrill from it, I wouldn't expect him to destroy a deeply sentimental piece of clothing.



I think this crystalizes the argument into its pure form - the Master should know whether clothing has a bigger meaning to the slave, and if so, which pieces could be ripped/cut and which ones not.

I have a lot of nice, new, expensive (kinda) shirts, which if they were destroyed during play, I would only care to the extent of "How the hell am I gonna get home????"

I have a few shirts, invariably old and ratty (how else would they gain meaning?), that I LOVE!  If someone decided to cut them off without considering their value to me, I would be upset.

Yours,


benji


Great post, benji, and I agree wholeheartedly.  I can understand LA's point about sentimental clothes.  I don't hold the same value to clothes, but I understand others do.  I also agree that a Master would (or should) know what she holds as sentimental and would take that into consideration.

Well, wait.  Master gave me a shirt of his.  If he cut if off of me, I would pout, and beg him for another.  Then again, the odds of me wearing it while with him are slim to none. :)



LordDominik -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/4/2006 10:02:41 PM)

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I untied her and gave her a cookie and sent her outside to cool off.

Sometimes it's not so easy is it?


Now just wait a second here???  You gave her a cookie, and sent her outside, and now all is ok?!?
 
I'd like to take a moment to share a story with all of you, about an experiance I had with something similar to this, from My early and less experienced years.  Personally, I always enjoyed ripping, as opposed to cutting clothes of the submissive partner.  Now I like to bring it up in the beginning so I can get a good reading of how they might react when it actually happens.  At one time, I was working with a woman who was formerly a Domme.  Now, she did the Domme thing as a Pro, but was a sub in her personal life, away from the Dungeon.  Fine, no problems here.  Whatever pays the bills, that's My philosophy. 
 
So anyway, we're doing this scene once, and I've got her hands behind her back handcuffed to a pipe, she's blindfolded, and I'm going crazy with Bom-pop I got off My firend eariler in the day that drives and ice cream truck.  So she's wiggiling and squirming, and she said not to put the Bom-pop on her shirt because it would stain, and she wouldn't be able to get the stain out.  Beings that she's a woman and knows about stuff like...a womans laundry, I took her word for it. 
 
So I asked her if she wanted Me to unbutton her shirt, or lift it up over her head, or what?  She said just go ahead and "rip it off".  Ok, so I did.  Now there was a time in My life where I thought I was very secure in My Dominance, and felt confident that no matter what happend, I could react calmly to any situation that might have arisen.  Let Me tell you, does nature ever have a way of proving us wrong.  Whatever God or Goddess there is that is kicking back in their recliner in whatever afterlife there is, it's a surefire bet they were falling out of the chair, laughing hysterically just before planning for My untimely arrival. 
 
As far as what happened after that...well, that's not part of the story I really like to tell as it contains more profanity that George Carlin telling Me what they can't say on TV.  Needless to say, I learned a very costly lesson that day.  If you cant afford to replace it, don't remove it in a non-customary method. 
 
If I would have given her a cookie and sent her outside to cool off, she would have fed me that cookie...in reverse digestive order. 
 
Just a personal little quip, to remind all of your, talk before you rip.
 
~ LD



Petruchio -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 1:56:46 AM)

Was it the blouse that upset her or the knife play?



feastie -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 5:35:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: artglfr

Last night I was being very kind to My sub by keeping her in Bondage and flogging her while she still had her clothes on to start with.

As she was in sub space so totally I decided to use the knife I was using on her to cut her blouse off which I enjoyed doing very much. Apparently she didn't at all. after I saw she was out of sub space I asked her what was up and she said "we never negotiated that...You cutting my clothes off!"  We actually had and I had mentioned I was going to one day but she wasn't real happy.

I untied her and gave her a cookie and sent her outside to cool off.

Sometimes it's not so easy is it?


Should have been better planning on your part.  You don't need to let her know in advance that you're going to cut her clothes off, but since you probably choose her clothes at times, you should have directed her what to wear at that time.  You, I'm certain, know her "good" clothes from her other clothes.  Provide her with clothes that you intend to cut off, for precisely that purpose. 



enigmabrat -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 5:44:26 AM)

wait did you actualy give her a cookie?



OhBeMyMind -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 5:51:51 AM)

LMAO!  I have been wondering the same thing, but was too chicken shit to ask!!

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

wait did you actualy give her a cookie?



enigmabrat -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 5:56:29 AM)

lol I want to know

if he had given me a cookie I would have shoved it up his......
ok ill be a good girl now



OhBeMyMind -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 6:55:49 AM)

LOL....that is a very funny story, thanks for sharing.....however....

Did it not occur to you to say "Darlin' you are concerned about a stain ruining your shirt, but not concerned with ripping and ruining your shirt?"  [sm=ofcourse.gif]

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ORIGINAL: LordDominik

 and she said not to put the Bom-pop on her shirt because it would stain, and she wouldn't be able to get the stain out.  Beings that she's a woman and knows about stuff like...a womans laundry, I took her word for it. 
 
So I asked her if she wanted Me to unbutton her shirt, or lift it up over her head, or what?  She said just go ahead and "rip it off".  Ok, so I did.   
~ LD



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 7:05:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat
lol I want to know

if he had given me a cookie I would have shoved it up his......
ok ill be a good girl now

Well I'm experienced and aware of myself to know that when I'm coming out of subspace is NOT the time to talk or question anything.  I'm simply on emotional react mode- and I've had some pretty irrational reactions at times (some good, some not so good).

In my case, the best thing to do IS shove a cookie (ok preferably a brownie) and some orange juice my way, wrap me up and let me sit down close to them and just be quiet until I calm down and fully come back to myself.

THEN we talk.

Reacting emotionally and irrationally really is NOT a good thing to do to your dom- I learned early that coming out of subspace is NOT an excuse to lash out inappropriately.



ownedgirlie -> RE: sub got upset cutting clothes off (6/5/2006 7:12:41 AM)

LA I so relate to what you have said.  Sometimes after an intense weekend, it will take days before I can think clearly and rationally.  I learned it is best to hold my emotions in check until I can chew on them awhile and understand if they are rational or not. 

And heck yes, sugar after intense usage?  I crave it.  A brownie & orange juice would go a long way!!



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