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If you truly love this country, why wouldn't you vigorously defend the rights that are reserved only to citizens of it? Surely, you don't want foreign nationals deciding how our government is to run? If you do, I would posit that if you love those foreign nationals so much, perhaps you should go to their country to live. That way, you can convince that country that you should have a say in their government and you can leave American citizens to decide how to govern themselves.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ja, I don't know how many times I have thought just that --- all them goddamn finlanders voting in a strictly norwo-american election.

When teabaggers are interested in saving this country and defending our rights by damning the corporations are people, quit the borrow and spend, quit bloating and servile appeasement and capitulation to  the military industrial complex, quit making war on our middle class, lower class and women; minorities, then maybe we will entertain some of the sky is falling sky is falling bullshit, to humor us and you.

No, Ron. It's not the Finlanders and you know damned well it isn't. It's the illegal aliens. It's the 9 people in Florida, arrested for voter fraud in 2010(Collecting absentee ballots for people and filling them out for them, etc.) for a fucking school board election.

It's "get out the vote" drives that register anyone and everyone so that they have lots of extra names on the rolls to fake more ballots.

I had a couple of these people come to my door, once and I decided to fuck with them. I didn't need any ID. I didn't need anything at all except to open my door and tell them my name. Now, while that may not exactly be agregious, it's a little too "willy-nilly" for my tastes.

No, I think voting rights should be almost as regulated as gun ownership. I'm not talking about excluding convicted felons or psychiatric patients (as gun laws do) but, I think we should know that the person coming to cast a ballot is really that person, not someone who is paid by one of the political parties to drive to different districts and use different names to "punch up the numbers".

I'm really a bit surprised that you're so willing to just let any ol' Tom, Dick or Harry that may not be allowed to vote break the law. After all, weren't you making a lot of noise about the FDLE not following the law. I guess it's a fluid thing?

Peace and comfort,


Michael

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ORIGINAL: SoftBonds
Michael, you are aware that all those voter ID drives and petition signers get checked against records, and a lot of names get thrown out, right? Yes, ACORN has paid folks to fill out a voter ID for mickey mouse, among other names, but mickey didn't get to vote, and the guy who faked the form got fired.
It is not the willy-nilly process you think it is. The secretaries of state have an important job to do, and by and large they do it. Of course, it is "the government," doing it, so some folks are going to be suspicious.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I think what may be happening is that one party encourages voter fraud, actually.

I'm reminded of President Carter, fast-tracking citizenship procedings for the Cuban crime lift so that those people would "thank" him by voting for him in 1980.

While, technically, not fraud per se, it certainly had a pretty foul stench of electioneering.

I think the PPLs are afraid that their turnout will go down if we start paying attention to who should and shouldn't be voting.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38
But there almost zero case of voter fraud. That is what the title of the thread refers to, the lack of a problem. Republicans trying to commit fraud to get on TV does not count as a real problem except for them.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ja, I don't know how many times I have thought just that --- all them goddamn finlanders voting in a strictly norwo-american election.

When teabaggers are interested in saving this country and defending our rights by damning the corporations are people, quit the borrow and spend, quit bloating and servile appeasement and capitulation to  the military industrial complex, quit making war on our middle class, lower class and women; minorities, then maybe we will entertain some of the sky is falling sky is falling bullshit, to humor us and you.

No, Ron. It's not the Finlanders and you know damned well it isn't. It's the illegal aliens. It's the 9 people in Florida, arrested for voter fraud in 2010(Collecting absentee ballots for people and filling them out for them, etc.) for a fucking school board election.

It's "get out the vote" drives that register anyone and everyone so that they have lots of extra names on the rolls to fake more ballots.

I had a couple of these people come to my door, once and I decided to fuck with them. I didn't need any ID. I didn't need anything at all except to open my door and tell them my name. Now, while that may not exactly be agregious, it's a little too "willy-nilly" for my tastes.

No, I think voting rights should be almost as regulated as gun ownership. I'm not talking about excluding convicted felons or psychiatric patients (as gun laws do) but, I think we should know that the person coming to cast a ballot is really that person, not someone who is paid by one of the political parties to drive to different districts and use different names to "punch up the numbers".

I'm really a bit surprised that you're so willing to just let any ol' Tom, Dick or Harry that may not be allowed to vote break the law. After all, weren't you making a lot of noise about the FDLE not following the law. I guess it's a fluid thing?



Peace and comfort,



Michael\

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I don't do peoples' research for them, anymore. I gave two examples a few posts back (one involved 9 people in Florida in 2010 in an election where one person got 72% absentee ballots).

I know what I have said is right. If I'm "talking out my ass" (not very Carnegie-esque there, buddy), prove me wrong.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38
So you played with them. Another right-wing prankster. Maybe there is a problem.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Ney......he`s a rightie.

The libertarian thing is a ploy many cons use b/c they don`t want to be known as a rightie......

But if text is the proof,he`s a proven rightie......

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

I think what may be happening is that one party encourages voter fraud, actually.

I'm reminded of President Carter, fast-tracking citizenship procedings for the Cuban crime lift so that those people would "thank" him by voting for him in 1980.

While, technically, not fraud per se, it certainly had a pretty foul stench of electioneering.

I think the PPLs are afraid that their turnout will go down if we start paying attention to who should and shouldn't be voting.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38
But there almost zero case of voter fraud. That is what the title of the thread refers to, the lack of a problem. Republicans trying to commit fraud to get on TV does not count as a real problem except for them.

The title of the thread was "tongue-in-cheek" but, thanks for stopping by. It's apparent that you didn't even look at the first two minutes of the supporting video.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

yeh but someone has to be literally in a political coma to say something liek that in the first place LOL


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/08/ohio-voting-machines-contained.html


So far 2010 has been a banner year for ACORN voter fraud prosecutions.

In Milwaukee, former ACORN worker Maria L. Miles, who worked with Clancy, pleaded guilty to “falsely procuring voter registration.” She will be sentenced next month.

In Washington state, ex-ACORN canvasser Kendra Lynn Thill was convicted of voter registration fraud and given a 12-month deferred sentence.

In Pennsylvania, former ACORN workers Alexis Givner, Mario Grisom, and Eric L. Jones, were convicted of voter registration fraud-related offenses. All three were sentenced to two years probation

The trial of ACORN for conspiracy to commit felony voter registration fraud was scheduled to begin Nov. 29, but ACORN lawyer Lisa Rasmussen had a scheduling conflict and the proceeding has been postponed. The trial will likely proceed in 2011. Hafen won’t be heading the prosecution’s team because he was recently elected a justice of the peace.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/the-voter-fraud-hall-of-shame-milwaukee-voter-fraud-conviction-makes-acorn%e2%80%99s-2010-total-at-least-15/#ixzz1rbb6WCg6

Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control
Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated

http://www.salon.com/2011/09/27/votinghack/

oh wait that cant be right, conspiracies never happen in america! LOL