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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Actually DM, repeats that claim......same thing.

And all the DA has to do is prove George a liar to get a conviction.......which won`t be hard.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Actually DM, repeats that claim......same thing.

And all the DA has to do is prove George a liar to get a conviction.......which won`t be hard.

It'll be damned hard to do with no evidence.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Actually DM, repeats that claim......same thing.

And all the DA has to do is prove George a liar to get a conviction.......which won`t be hard.

It'll be damned hard to do with no evidence.

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You speak of illiteracy yet failed to understand the affidavit....

You know, the part where the investigator says he can disprove Zimmermans claims.

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. —

A Jacksonville has been ssentenced to 20 years in prison in a controversial self-defense case that has once again shoved Florida's Stand Your Ground statute into the public spotlight.

Marisa Alexander was sentenced to 20 years this morning in Duval County Court . She was convicted on three counts of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for an August 2010 incident in which she fired a gun into the ceiling of her home in front of her husband and his two children after she alleges he was beating her severely.

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To bring this back to the original topic...

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. —

A Jacksonville has been ssentenced to 20 years in prison in a controversial self-defense case that has once again shoved Florida's Stand Your Ground statute into the public spotlight.

Marisa Alexander was sentenced to 20 years this morning in Duval County Court . She was convicted on three counts of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for an August 2010 incident in which she fired a gun into the ceiling of her home in front of her husband and his two children after she alleges he was beating her severely.

http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/marisa-alexander-gets-20-years/nN39b/

Apparently there's more to this story, like Marissa leaving the house, going to her car and retrieving the gun, going back into the house, and confronting her ex.

The Prosecutor successfully proved that Marisa wasn't "trapped" in the garage like she claimed, that she did go to the garage to fetch her gun, and did fire at her Husband, endangering him and her two sons, whom she then let leave with the guy even though he was supposedly threatening them.

So again, this isn't a SYG fail, it's a case of assault with a deadly weapon, and Alexander was sentenced to 20 years for her crime.

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You speak of illiteracy yet failed to understand the affidavit....

You know, the part where the investigator says he can disprove Zimmermans claims.

I understand the law. "Saying" you can disprove something is a far cry from actually being able to do it beyond a reasonable doubt.

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That maybe true, Martin used his fist Zimmerman used his gun.  I read many years ago a Northeastern study 1995 on the subject of those defending themselves with a firearm, in some 48% of the cases, the so called attacker was unarmed.  I am not aware any recent study but it would be interesting. It is my understanding Zimmerman wanted to become a police officer,  if he ever does, he better get use to being punched, and the rules on the use of deadly force, i.e. shooting an armed anybody are alot more strictive.

Maybe you should look up what protocol is when some is bashing your head against the pavement and then goes for your gun.

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Well the DA on discovery released alot of evidence to O'Mara including some 64 CD and about 100 statement of witnesses.  So there is something, some will be presented in court, some will be released by the news.

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As then medical report stated there were two abarsions on Zimmerman head, no fratures or concessions..hardly what I would call "basing", none of Zimmerman wound were anywhere near fatal.  Zimmerman weapon was concealed, so how would Martin know where Zimmerman weapon was?

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Zimmerman weapon was concealed, so how would Martin know where Zimmerman weapon was?

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Well the DA on discovery released alot of evidence to O'Mara including some 64 CD and about 100 statement of witnesses.  So there is something, some will be presented in court, some will be released by the news.

And so far, the more evidence that comes to light, the more it support Zimmerman's claims.

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The guy has a history of violence, including sending Marisa to the hospial three weeks before this incident.  He beat her so badly the Doctors had to induc labor.  He also told the police, etc that if it she didn't have the gun he was going to kill her.

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Well the DA on discovery released alot of evidence to O'Mara including some 64 CD and about 100 statement of witnesses.  So there is something, some will be presented in court, some will be released by the news.

And so far, the more evidence that comes to light, the more it support Zimmerman's claims.

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The guy has a history of violence, including sending Marisa to the hospial three weeks before this incident.  He beat her so badly the Doctors had to induc labor.  He also told the police, etc that if it she didn't have the gun he was going to kill her.

Again, if she was so in fear for her life, why did she go to the garage, retrieve her gun, shoot the wall, then calmly let the guy and her sons to leave, while still holding her gun?

His past doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is, she had the gun, she fired the shot, and if she was so afraid of him, she should have shot him dead, that way the cops would only have HER side of the story... ALA Zimmerman.

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As then medical report stated there were two abarsions on Zimmerman head, no fratures or concessions..hardly what I would call "basing", none of Zimmerman wound were anywhere near fatal.  Zimmerman weapon was concealed, so how would Martin know where Zimmerman weapon was?

Really? Because what I've seen of the report shows cuts to the back of his head bruises and a fracture to his face/nose and a laceration to Martin's knuckles.

Sure sounds like he was getting bashed to me.

Zimmerman had a broken nose, he was also to have two black eyes, looking at the pictures, the circles under my eyes are darker.  I have had and seen worst black eyes.  None of Zimmerman injuries were life threaten and he repeatedly refused further medical treatment, the bleeding was minor and stopped after treatment from the paramedic on the scene.  I have seen worse.  As to Martin there was one small cut on the knuckle of his left ring finger, interesting since Martin was right handed, the only other injury to Martin was a fatal gun wound.

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Zimmerman weapon was concealed, so how would Martin know where Zimmerman weapon was?

Concealed doesn't mean locked up in a secret compartment. I'd think if one guy straddled another and was involved in a physical confrontation, it'd be pretty easy for the gun to become un-concealed.

tr.v. con·cealed, con·ceal·ing, con·ceals
To keep from being seen, found, observed, or discovered; hide.
I am sure that Martin search Zimmerman for his weapon.  He did not know Zimmerman was armed.  All this while he is bashing Zimmerman as you say..right.

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His past doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is, she had the gun, she fired the shot, and if she was so afraid of him, she should have shot him dead, that way the cops would only have HER side of the story... ALA Zimmerman.

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Well the DA on discovery released alot of evidence to O'Mara including some 64 CD and about 100 statement of witnesses.  So there is something, some will be presented in court, some will be released by the news.

And so far, the more evidence that comes to light, the more it support Zimmerman's claims.

I just find it telling that all the "new" evidence that comes to light is in oppostion to the 1st evidence that shows he didnt have hardly any damage to him at all.... videos with no blood... pics of his face with no broken nose. (and I know what a broken nose looks like since I personally have had 6 of them) and so on.... all this I feel to avoid a trial...because theres one point he cant avoid being asked......

WHY AFTER u WERE TOLD NOT TO GO AFTER THE SUSPECT... WHY DID U DO THAT ANYWAY?? To Me, all this other stuff is just telling how a grown man who wasnt police material got his ass kicked by a teenager while thinking if he caught a "suspect" he might be taken seriously as a rent-a-cop.... And rather than lose and be the allready embarrassed son of a judge even more he shot the teen.

BTW.... what muder trial anywhere releases evidence that could influence a POSSIBLE jury?? Other than maybe somebody doesnt want a credible or unbiased jury?? setting him up for an appeal for a retrial if convicted?


SIR

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Actually DM, repeats that claim......same thing.

And all the DA has to do is prove George a liar to get a conviction.......which won`t be hard.

It'll be damned hard to do with no evidence.