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If CA tried to do what going in WI, then CA would have the second worst jobs rate in the country because WI has the worst.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Actually California's finances are reflective of libertarian tax policy, especially prop 13, mixing with a state where it is politically impossible to cut government services to a level equal to that of 1925.

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LOS ANGELES — The state budget shortfall in California has increased dramatically in the last six months, forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs already battered by nearly five years of budget retrenchment, state officials announced on Saturday.

“We are now facing a $16 billion hole, not the $9 billion we thought in January,” Mr. Brown said. “This means we will have to go much further and make cuts far greater than I asked for at the beginning of the year.”

[...] he aggressively accounted for the steps he said he had taken to try to scale back a $26 billion deficit he found upon taking office. And he urged viewers to back an initiative he is putting on the November ballot that would increase sales taxes by 0.25 percent and impose an income tax surcharge on wealthy Californians to try to stave off more cuts.

So Cali has an increasing shortfall. Gotta pay for it. But just what is being paid for in the first place? Why, those very things that created the shortfall. So just how does one go about paying for it? Why, the same way its been paid for for years. Problem is, people will only go so far till they vote with their feet. For those who cannot, enjoy the sales tax increase and cuts to the trough.

In the short run Cali can do what it says it needs to do and therefore project a savings against the shortfall. Problem solved. At least on paper. But, why isn't it the $9b thought in January? Why doesn't what's on paper equal reality?

Here's a bit of reality for Cali. I foresee rising shoe sales. That should help a little, or not.

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California finances look like typical American left wing case to me: expansion of the government, high taxes, ever expanding regulations, corruption in public sector destroying the prosperity. Perhaps most agree potentially California could be the most prosperous and fiscally sound state with agriculture, aerospace industry, high-tech and entertainment.

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California has 12% of the US population, and a third of the nation's welfare caseload. Our state university system has more full-time administrators than it has full-time teachers. Special interests dominate Sacramento. Brown's idea of a "budget cut" is to move the billing from the state, to the local jurisdictions, by way of unfunded mandates.

"It's the bureaucracy, stupid," to paraphrase Carville.

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Well remember we voted in Jerry Brown, he screwed up last time and now he doing it again.  The he can't even get support from his own party.

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To get that mess straightened out, CA will have to do what Wisconsin is doing. I'm guessing it won't happen.

How would giving tax payer money to croneys and shilling for campaign funds help California?

I believe he's talking about forcing public unions to pay a miniscule portion of their over inflated salaries for benefits... But you knew that, and as long as Cali is burdened with public union pensions, they'll never get above water.

Cali's budgetary problem has nothing to do with referendums, it's all on the Dem's and the unions they supported, much to the determent of the non union citizens.

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Cali's budgetary problem has nothing to do with referendums, it's all on the Dem's and the unions they supported, much to the determent of the non union citizens.

Would you have any sort of validation for the bullshit in this moronic post?

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They also have a long, complicated, and hugely expensive problem with illegals.

It has already been explained to you how to solve that problem so your post is quite disingenuous.

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You know, this isn't like me; but, sometimes I feel sorry for Jerry, and even Arnold.
Who in the world would want the job of Gov of Cal?

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Actually California's finances are reflective of libertarian tax policy, especially prop 13, mixing with a state where it is politically impossible to cut government services to a level equal to that of 1925.

prop 13? dont worry yer purdy head about that, the cities and counties make up for it since they charge to the max when it comes to new homes.. in Inland Empire you will pay about $50,000 in impact and 2-3 pages of other fees before you can get a building permit.. Riverside county you even get charge a fee/tax to save the rats.. i kid you not..

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This from an alleged cop who belongs to a cop union.
How bout your state removes your union and cuts your pay in half.
That seems to be what you are asking for.

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Essentially, Right to Work outlaws mandatory union membership. Employers cannot make joining a union or paying dues to one conditional to employment at their company, which is a common arrangement between employers and unions in non-Right-to-Work states.

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Any governor can do nothing without a majority in the state house to back him up. CA ihas been run by liberal democrats for a very long time. That 16 billion deficiet they now have is just part of their problems.

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This from an alleged cop who belongs to a cop union.
How bout your state removes your union and cuts your pay in half.
That seems to be what you are asking for.

I am NOT IN A UNION, Indiana is a RIGHT TO WORK STATE

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Essentially, Right to Work outlaws mandatory union membership. Employers cannot make joining a union or paying dues to one conditional to employment at their company, which is a common arrangement between employers and unions in non-Right-to-Work states.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/02/02/why-is-indianas-right-to-work-law-such-a-big-deal/#ixzz1utfiXjMe

I don't know how many times I have to tell you, for an alleged intelligent man, ignorance must be bliss.

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Actually California's finances are reflective of libertarian tax policy, especially prop 13, mixing with a state where it is politically impossible to cut government services to a level equal to that of 1925.

prop 13? dont worry yer purdy head about that, the cities and counties make up for it since they charge to the max when it comes to new homes.. in Inland Empire you will pay about $50,000 in impact and 2-3 pages of other fees before you can get a building permit.. Riverside county you even get charge a fee/tax to save the rats.. i kid you not..

Could you tell us what kind of rat and why?
If you can't then perhaps you should put your brain in gear before engaging your mouth.

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The unemployment rate in WI is 6.8 % which is certainly not the worst in the country. The 3.3 billion dollar deficiet this state had just a year ago is gone. A surplus is projected for the coming year. Scott Walker and the republicans went through hell and back last year but they had the stones to do what needed to be done.

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You have about as many post claiming to be a cop as denying it. Would you like me to post them up for you to deny?