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RE: And the hole gets deeper - 5/15/2012 6:24:19 PM   
tj444


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I believe this is the source which TJ used.

Source: OC PV Permit Fees

If you scroll down a bit and go right, you can see an article which mentions that Dana Point actually has the lowest such fees in the state. I believe TJ might have mistaken San Clemente for Dana point which 'at one time' did have a fee near that $14,000 mark.

"If you want to put a solar system on your house in dana point the city wants $14,000 for the permit to do just that.. " <-- that's just not true and I could find zero evidence dating back to 2007 that it ever was. The fee back then was a bit over $400. Not $14,000.

I 'want' $14,000 for you to put a solar system on your house, too.. but I ain't gonna get it, am I?

Personally, TJ has lost some credibility with me. Could just have easily included the entire doc, acknowledge that San Clemente was the city and Dana Point was an error then gone on to state that the fees had been deemed excessive (many of the notes which are included in the link which I provided go into finer detail for the various cities listed.. some are quite interesting) and were no longer applicable as they had been lowered. Fudging checkable details isn't wise in the debate arena.

No, that is not the source i used, and i didnt see that until you posted that. I was searching the oc register for the original article and only found an update.
the list i posted was from that and had been updated in 2011 some time.. as far as san clemente goes, the chart i used said it was reduced to $5,720 from $13,818.. but i wasnt looking at other cities as i was trying to find the original article and find out what the previous rates were for dana point .. It is possible that I mistook dana point for san clemente but until i can find the original article i dont know for sure. If i did then my bad,.. its not something i did deliberately. I wish i could find the original article cuz this is bugging me now..

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RE: And the hole gets deeper - 5/16/2012 8:14:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since it was your claim why is it my job to verify it?
What is the source of your list?
Your list does not indicate that dana point was ever $14,000
If you had access to this list why did you post that dana point was $14,000? Or did it occure to you to find out the truth after you had been shown you were mistaken?
I would be interested in finding out how long the fee was in place and who paid such a fee and how many did.
I would also be interested in finding out if any of those who voted for the $14,000 fee are still in office?
My personal feeling is that the permit for solar should be free to encourage rather than discourage a more sustainable eneergy production.



I believe this is the source which TJ used.

Source: OC PV Permit Fees

If you scroll down a bit and go right, you can see an article which mentions that Dana Point actually has the lowest such fees in the state. I believe TJ might have mistaken San Clemente for Dana point which 'at one time' did have a fee near that $14,000 mark.

"If you want to put a solar system on your house in dana point the city wants $14,000 for the permit to do just that.. " <-- that's just not true and I could find zero evidence dating back to 2007 that it ever was. The fee back then was a bit over $400. Not $14,000.

I 'want' $14,000 for you to put a solar system on your house, too.. but I ain't gonna get it, am I?

Personally, TJ has lost some credibility with me. Could just have easily included the entire doc, acknowledge that San Clemente was the city and Dana Point was an error then gone on to state that the fees had been deemed excessive (many of the notes which are included in the link which I provided go into finer detail for the various cities listed.. some are quite interesting) and were no longer applicable as they had been lowered. Fudging checkable details isn't wise in the debate arena.






Omg...the voice of reason...what the fuck are you doing here?

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RE: And the hole gets deeper - 5/16/2012 8:15:57 AM   
thompsonx


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that was a bs line you used on another thread.. you dont want to verify when you make claims but you want everyone else too..


Please show me where I have done that.

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