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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 1:00:55 PM   
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You climb poles and do tranformers and sub stations and distribute power to the individual dwellings and commercial buildings and whatnot?

Unless you live in North Umbria, it might be different there.



No, I have worked on all of the above, except for the pole climbing. Mainly electrical installations on large construction sites such as hospitals.

Everything from the temporary electrics for the tower crane and electrical plant, to an industrial or household installation, including fire alarm systems.

Mostly anything from 415v downwards but some stuff above 415v. Transformers, motors, earthing, lighting, power outlets the lot. right down to 12v emergency lighting systems. Both AC and DC supplies.

I havent done anything above 1,000 v on a regular basis.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 1:07:44 PM   
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But yeah, same same.  Might just get by with 'construction electrician' here, you know how we love to abuse and murk the English tongue this side of the pond.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 1:28:48 PM   
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So, what does all this talk of electric wires and circuits have to do with gas prices?

How do you determine what is a "high" gas price? Is it an absolute number or a trend?


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 2:52:42 PM   
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well its well over 4 bucks per again and went over 5 bucks per, dont you wish wall street would manipulate wage prices the same way they do everything else?

If you can simply receive your electricity via an antenna for your house and car you can rip out most of the wires strung all over the place.

they are talking about it because he is trying to justify his mistake.

typical blue collar.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 3:20:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You climb poles and do tranformers and sub stations and distribute power to the individual dwellings and commercial buildings and whatnot?

Unless you live in North Umbria, it might be different there.



No, I have worked on all of the above, except for the pole climbing. Mainly electrical installations on large construction sites such as hospitals.

Everything from the temporary electrics for the tower crane and electrical plant, to an industrial or household installation, including fire alarm systems.

Mostly anything from 415v downwards but some stuff above 415v. Transformers, motors, earthing, lighting, power outlets the lot. right down to 12v emergency lighting systems. Both AC and DC supplies.

I havent done anything above 1,000 v on a regular basis.




look there is no such thing as an absolute "infinite" in the real world any more than there is such a thing as a total short in the real world. they are constructs in math to represent really big or really small, or for easily demonstratable blackboard calculations as a teaching aid LOL

I dont give a shit if one terminal is on the moon and the other is on the earth there is a point where when the resistance breaks down and a break over will occur. Its not even an argument.

as I demonstrated a very high resistance to the tune of 15x10^12 ohms per mm but not infinite by any stretch of the imagination and when once breakover occurs there will be a steady arc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPpcfzsjQ8c


If it truly were infinite no arc could ever occur under any conditions



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 4:01:55 PM   
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So, what does all this talk of electric wires and circuits have to do with gas prices?

How do you determine what is a "high" gas price? Is it an absolute number or a trend?




Sidetracked onto alternate energy sources Fluffy.

Watch gas prices go sky high if Syria doesnt get sorted soon or Israel carries out a pre-emptive strike on Iran.

It will be shades of `73 and fuel coupons all over again.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 4:11:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You climb poles and do tranformers and sub stations and distribute power to the individual dwellings and commercial buildings and whatnot?

Unless you live in North Umbria, it might be different there.



No, I have worked on all of the above, except for the pole climbing. Mainly electrical installations on large construction sites such as hospitals.

Everything from the temporary electrics for the tower crane and electrical plant, to an industrial or household installation, including fire alarm systems.

Mostly anything from 415v downwards but some stuff above 415v. Transformers, motors, earthing, lighting, power outlets the lot. right down to 12v emergency lighting systems. Both AC and DC supplies.

I havent done anything above 1,000 v on a regular basis.




look there is no such thing as an absolute "infinite" in the real world any more than there is such a thing as a total short in the real world. they are constructs in math to represent really big or really small, or for easily demonstratable blackboard calculations as a teaching aid LOL

I dont give a shit if one terminal is on the moon and the other is on the earth there is a point where when the resistance breaks down and a break over will occur. Its not even an argument.

as I demonstrated a very high resistance to the tune of 15x10^12 ohms per mm but not infinite by any stretch of the imagination and when once breakover occurs there will be a steady arc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPpcfzsjQ8c


If it truly were infinite no arc could ever occur under any conditions




Anyone with half a brain knows you can have a situation where you force a spark. The fact remains, on an open circuit there is no resistance since there is no voltage. There may well be a steady arc but that is only because you are moving the two electrodes closer, as a welder you should know that.

You didnt demonstrate anything either, just come out with some more bullshit. Anyhow I am done taking this topic off track.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 4:45:55 PM   
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I = V/R

lets see....

lets set I to 0.

0 = V/R  simple, V MUST be 0.  (R is undefined and not 0)

lets set R to 0.

0 =  V/I   simple, V Must be 0. (I is undefined not infinite and not 0)

lets set V to 0.

0 = I * R  (take your pick one is 0)

are we clear here? 






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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 4:58:04 PM   
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no, when you deal with charge or voltage for that matter you are dealing with a "potential difference" between two points. Anytime you have a potential difference there is an attraction and the ONLY thing that restricts flow is resistance. Granted if the flow is restricted to the point of 1 pico amp per hour because your switch is open it is not enough to run the circuit and typically would be referred to as simply leakage and disregarded as an open circuit. Its not however. Low voltage no need for concern, high voltage especially impulses at several times the input from a coil lots of reasons for concern.

Oh and by the way, if there is an open circuit there is voltage, whatever the line would be. There would be no "practical" current flow. In the vulgar, open circuit stops current flow, and does nothing to the voltage provided it is a constant voltage source. So you got that bassackwards too. So stop trying to pull the lineman gig, it aint you, this is the second time you proved it.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 5:02:00 PM   
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If it truly were infinite no arc could ever occur under any conditions.  Who came up with the infinite statement other than you? 

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 5:49:47 PM   
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The fact remains, on an open circuit there is no resistance since there is no voltage.


How would you define an open circuit?

Also there is voltage since the switch, is the switch. To make it so there's no voltage you'd have to put another switch before the switch, or turn the power supply off altogether.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 5:50:57 PM   
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I = V/R

lets see....

lets set I to 0.

0 = V/R  simple, V MUST be 0.  (R is undefined and not 0)

lets set R to 0.

0 =  V/I   simple, V Must be 0. (I is undefined not infinite and not 0)

lets set V to 0.

0 = I * R  (take your pick one is 0)

are we clear here?


R of what?


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 6:33:08 PM   
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quote:

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I = V/R

lets see....

lets set I to 0.

0 = V/R  simple, V MUST be 0.  (R is undefined and not 0)

lets set R to 0.

0 =  V/I   simple, V Must be 0. (I is undefined not infinite and not 0)

lets set V to 0.

0 = I * R  (take your pick one is 0)

are we clear here? 








this is vastly over-simplified but from what I have seen from you guys so far you will be lucky if you get it much less take farther.


for a switch with a 1 mm gap its:


i=v/15x10^12

so at 1 hundred volts

thats

100 volts
-----------------------------
15,000,000,000,000 ohms

= .000,000,000,000,006.666666666667 amps

v is volts
r is ohms
i is amps

so there is going to be a test at the end so what is the current for a switch with 100 volts potential and a 1 mm gap when the contacts are open? (hint "i")

hope that helps?






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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 7:53:20 PM   
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Who came up with the infinite statement other than you? 


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I sugest you read about "infinity" first, because thats what you get on an open circuit.




try and keep up


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 8:30:04 PM   
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I found a dollard video and about the 57 mark he is transmitting through the ground and from the power levels he describes one woud think it should not work, however it works very well. I noticed that his receiver is under the bluff. nice.

http://vimeo.com/11917342

another interesting observation is that there does not appear to be a "carrier". so it appears he is transmitting the signal carrierless.


That's an excellent video demonstrating some of the things Tesla was talking about, the only person to actually show some effects other than lightning bolts


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/23/2012 9:22:21 PM   
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http://www.google.com/patents/US454622?printsec=drawing#v=onepage&q&f=false

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US PATENT 454,622 SYSTEM OF ELECTRIC LIGHTING.
SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 454,622, dated June 23, 1891. Application filed April 25, 1891. Serial No. 390,414. (No model.)
To all whom it may concern: Be it known that I, NIKOLA TESLA, a subject of the Emperor of Austria-Hungary, from Smiljan, Lika, border country of Austria-Hungary, and a resident of New York, in the county and State of New York, have invented certain new and useful Improvements in Methods of and Apparatus for Electric Lighting, of which the following is a specification, reference being had to the drawings accompanying and forming a part of the same.

This invention consists in a novel method of and apparatus for producing light by means of electricity.

For a better understanding of the invention it may be stated, first, that heretofore I have produced and employed currents for very high frequency for operating translating devices, such as electric lamps, and, second, that currents of high potential have also been produced and employed for obtaining luminous effects, and this, in a broad sense, may be regarded for purposes of this case as the prior state of the art; but I have discovered that results of the most useful character may be secured under entirely practicable conditions by means of electric currents in which both the above-described conditions of high frequency and great difference of potential are present. In other words, I have made the discovery that an electrical current of an excessively small period and very high potential may be utilized economically and practicably to great advantage for the production of light.

It is difficult for me to define the exact limits of frequency and potential within which my discovery is comprised, for the results obtained are due to both conjointly; but I would make it clear that as to the inferior limits of both, the lowest frequency and potential that I contemplate using are far above what have heretofore been regarded as practicable. As an instance of what I regard as the lowest practicable limits I would state that I have obtained fairly good results by a frequency as low as fifteen thousand to twenty thousand per second and a potential of about twenty thousand volts. Both frequency and potential may be enormously increased above these figures, the practical limits being determined by the character of the apparatus and its capability of standing the strain. I do not mean by the term “excessively small period” and similar expressions herein to imply that I contemplate any number of pulsations or vibrations per second approximating to the number of light-waves, and this will more fully appear from the description of the nature of the invention which is hereinafter contained.

The carrying out of this invention and the full realization of the conditions necessary to the attainment of the desired results involve first, a novel method of and apparatus for producing the currents or electrical effects of the character described; second, a novel method of utilizing and applying the same for the production of light, and, third, a new form of translating device or light-giving appliance. These I shall now describe.

To produce a current of very high frequency and very high potential, certain well-known devices may be employed. For instance, as the primary source of current or electrical energy a continuous-current generator may be used, the circuit of which may be interrupted with extreme rapidity by mechanical devices, or a magneto-electric machine specially constructed to yield alternating currents of very small period may be used, and in either case, should the potential be too low, an induction-coil may be employed to raise it; or, finally, in order to overcome the mechanical difficulties, which in such cases become practically insuperable before the best results are reached, the principle of the disruptive discharge may be utilized. By means of this latter plan I produce a much greater rate of change in the current than by the other means suggested, and in illustration of my invention I shall confine the description of the means or apparatus for producing the current to this plan, although I would not be understood as limiting myself to its use. The current of high frequency, therefore, that is necessary to the successful working of my invention I produce by the disruptive discharge of the accumulated energy of a condenser maintained by charging said condenser from a suitable source and discharging it into or through a circuit under proper relations of self-induction, capacity, resistance, and period in well-understood ways. Such a discharge is known to be, under proper conditions, intermittent or oscillating in character, and in this way a current varying in strength at an enormously rapid rate may be produced. Having produced in the above manner a current of excessive frequency, I obtain from it by means of an induction-coil enormously high potentials—that is to say, in the circuit through which or into which the disruptive discharge of the condenser takes place I include the primary of a suitable induction-coil, and by a secondary coil of much longer and finer wire I convert to currents of extremely high potential. The differences in the length of the primary and secondary coils in connection with the enormously rapid rate of change in the primary current yield a secondary of enormous frequency and excessively high potential. Such currents are not, so far as I am aware, available for use in the usual ways; but I have discovered that if I connect to either of the terminals of the secondary coil or source of current of high potential the leading-in wires of such a device, for example, as an ordinary incandescent lamp, the carbon may be brought to and maintained at incandescence, or, in general, that any body capable of conducting the high-tension current described and properly enclosed in a rarefied or exhausted receiver may be rendered luminous or incandescent, either when connected directly with one terminal of the secondary source of energy or placed in the vicinity of such terminals so as to be acted upon inductively.

Without attempting a detailed explanation of the causes to which this phenomenon may be ascribed, I deem it sufficient to state that, assuming the now generally accepted theories of scientists to be correct, the effects thus produced are attributable to molecular bombardment, condenser action, and electric or etheric disturbances. Whatever part each of any of these causes may play in producing the effects noted, it is, however, a fact that a strip of carbon or a mass of any other shape, either of carbon or any more or less conducting substance in a rarefied or exhausted receiver and connected directly or inductively to a source of electrical energy such as I have described, may be maintained at incandescence if the frequency and potential of the current be sufficiently high.

I would here state that by the terms “currents of high frequency and high potential” and similar expressions which I have used in this description I do not mean, necessarily, currents in the usual acceptance of the term but, generally speaking, electrical disturbances or effects such as would be produced in the secondary source by the action of the primary disturbance or electrical effect.

It is necessary to observe in carrying out this invention that care must be taken to reduce to a minimum the opportunity for dissipation of the energy from the conductors intermediate to the source of current and the light-giving body. For this purpose the conductors should be free from projections and points and well covered or coated with a good insulator.

The body to be rendered incandescent should be selected with a view to its capability of withstanding the action to which it is exposed without being rapidly destroyed, for some conductors will be much more speedily consumed than others.

I now refer to the accompanying drawings, in which—

Figure 1 is a diagram of one of the special arrangements that I have employed in carrying out my discovery, and Figs. 2 and 3 are vertical sectional views of modified forms of light-giving devices that I have devised for use with the system.

I would state that as all of the apparatus herein shown, with the exception of certain special forms of lamp invented by me, is or may be of well-known construction and in common use for other purposes, I have indicated such well-known parts therefor by conventional representations.

G is the primary source of current or electrical energy. I have explained above how various forms of generators might be used for this purpose; but in the present illustration I assume that G is an alternating-current generator of comparatively low electro-motive force. Under such circumstances I raise the potential of the current by means of an induction-coil having a primary P and a secondary S. Then by the current development in this secondary I charge a condenser C, and this condenser I discharge through or into a circuit A, having an air-gap a, or, in general, means for maintaining a disruptive discharge. By the means above described a current of enormous frequency is produced. My object is next to convert this into a working-circuit of very high potential, for which purpose I connect up in the circuit A the primary P' of an induction-coil having a long fine wire secondary S'. The current in the primary P' develops in the secondary S' a current or electrical effect of corresponding frequency, but of enormous difference of potential, and the secondary S' thus becomes the source of the energy to be applied to the purpose of producing light.

The light-giving devices may be connected to either terminal of the secondary S'. If desired, one terminal may be connected to a conducting-wall W of a room or space to be lighted and the other arranged for connection of the lamps therewith. In such case the walls should be coated with some metallic or conducting substance in order that they may have sufficient conductivity.

The lamps or light-giving devices may be an ordinary incandescent lamp; but I prefer to use specially-designed lamps, examples of which I have shown in detail in the drawings. This lamp consists of a rarefied or exhausted bulb or globe which encloses a refractory conducting body, as carbon, of comparatively small bulk and any desired shape. This body is to be connected to the secondary by one or more conductors sealed in the glass, as in ordinary lamps, or is arranged to be inductively connected thereto. For this last-named purpose the body is in electrical contact with a metallic sheet in the interior of the neck of the globe, and on the outside of said neck is a second sheet which is to be connected with the source of current. These two sheets form the armatures of a condenser, and by them the currents or potentials are developed in the light-giving body. As many lamps of this or other kinds may be connected to the terminal of S' as the energy supplied is capable of maintaining at incandescence.

In Fig. 3, b is a rarefied or exhausted glass globe or receiver, in which is a body of carbon or other suitable conductor e. To this body is connected a metallic conductor f, which passes through and is sealed in the glass wall of the globe, outside of which it is united to a copper or other wire g, by means of which it is to be electrically connected to one pole or terminal of the source of current. Outside of the globe the conducting-wires are protected by a coating of insulation h, of any suitable kind, and inside the globe the supporting-wire is enclosed in and insulated by a tube or coating k of a refractory insulating substance, such as pipe-clay or the like. A reflecting-plate l is shown applied to the outside of the globe b. This form of lamp is a type of those designed for direct electrical connection with one terminal of the source of current; but, as above stated, there need not be a direct connection, for the carbon or other illuminating body may be rendered luminous by inductive action of the current thereon, and this may be brought about in several ways. The preferred form of lamp for this purpose, however, is shown in Fig. 2. In this figure the globe b is formed with a cylindrical neck, within which is a tube or sheet m of conducting material on the side and over the end of a cylinder or plug n of any suitable insulating material. The lower edges of this tube are in electrical contact with a metallic plate o, secured to the cylinder n, all the exposed surfaces of such plate and of the other conductors being carefully coated and protected by insulation. The light-giving body e, in this case a straight stem of carbon, is electrically connected with the said plate by a wire or conductor similar to the wire f, Fig. 3, which is coated in like manner with a refractory insulating material k. The neck of the globe fits into a socket composed of an insulating tube or cylinder p, with a more or less complete metallic lining s, electrically connected by a metallic head or plate r with a conductor g, that is to be attached to one pole of the source of current. The metallic lining s and the sheet m thus compose the plates or armatures of a condenser.

This invention is not limited to the special means described for producing the results hereinabove set forth, for it will be seen that various plans and means of producing currents of very high frequency are known, and also means for producing very high potentials; but I have only described herein certain ways in which I have practically carried out the invention.

What I claim is—

1. The improvement in the art of electric lighting herein described, which consists in generating or producing for the operation of the lighting devices currents of enormous frequency and excessively high potential, substantially as herein described.

2. The method of producing an electric current for practical application, such as for electric lighting, which consists in generating or producing a current of enormous frequency and inducing by such current in a working circuit, or that to which the lighting devices are connected, a current of corresponding frequency and excessively high potential, as set forth.

3. The method of producing an electric current for practical application, such as for electric lighting, which consists in charging a condenser by a given current, maintaining an intermittent or oscillatory discharge of said condenser through or into a primary circuit, and producing thereby in a secondary working-circuit in inductive relation to the primary very high potentials, as set forth.

4. The method of producing electric light by incandescence by electrically or inductively connecting a conductor enclosed in a rarefied or exhausted receiver to one of the poles or terminals of a source of electric energy or current of a frequency and potential sufficiently high to render said body incandescent, as set forth.

5. A system of electric lighting, consisting in the combination, with a source of electric energy or current of enormous frequency and excessively high potential, of an incandescent lamp or lamps consisting of a conducting body enclosed in a rarefied or exhausted receiver and connected directly or inductively to one pole or terminal of the source of energy, as set forth.

6. In a system of electric lighting, the combination, with a source of currents of enormous frequency and excessively high potential, of incandescent lighting devices, each consisting of a conducting body enclosed in a rarefied or exhausted receiver, said conducting body being connected directly or inductively to one pole or terminal of the source of current, and a conducting body or bodies in the vicinity of said lighting devices connected to the other pole or terminal of said source, as set forth.

7. In a system of electrical lighting, the combination, with a source of currents of enormous frequency of excessively high potential, of lighting devices, each consisting of a conducting body enclosed in a rarefied or exhausted receiver and connected by conductors directly or inductively with one of the terminals of said source, all parts of the conductors intermediate to the said source and the light-giving body being insulated and protected to prevent the dissipation of the electric energy, as herein set forth.

NIKOLA TESLA.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/24/2012 3:51:15 AM   
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The fact remains, on an open circuit there is no resistance since there is no voltage.


How would you define an open circuit?

Also there is voltage since the switch, is the switch. To make it so there's no voltage you'd have to put another switch before the switch, or turn the power supply off altogether.




Dont be so stupid. If the switch is off there is no voltage unless you bridge across the break with a voltmeter, or ground one leg. On a 110v system each leg has 55v, giving one ten across the two. This works because while one phase acts as a feed, the other acts as a return (between pulses)

An open circuit is defined as:

Open circuit
A condition in an electric circuit in which there is no path for current between two points; examples are a broken wire and a switch in the open, or off, position. Open-circuit voltage is the potential difference between two points in a circuit when a branch (current path) between the points is open-circuited. Open-circuit voltage is measured by a voltmeter which has a very high resistance (theoretically infinite).

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/24/2012 11:50:39 AM   
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There's nothing stupid about that, you just said the same thing with different words. Bridging across the break is what I meant because that's also what happens when the voltage becomes high enough on one of the terminals. There's only "no voltage" when the entire thing is turned off, meaning the whole power supply.

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A condition in an electric circuit in which there is no path for current between two points; examples are a broken wire and a switch in the open, or off, position.


Now this description is inadequate here, since we only have one supply wire, there's no need for a path for current in the normal sense. In this case, between two terminals of a bulb can be considered a circuit because the current path is effectively from one side of the filament to the other, after the filament the wire doesn't need to return to the power supply so it's already an open circuit by the normal definition.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/24/2012 5:10:12 PM   
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I found a dollard video and about the 57 mark he is transmitting through the ground and from the power levels he describes one woud think it should not work, however it works very well. I noticed that his receiver is under the bluff. nice.

http://vimeo.com/11917342

another interesting observation is that there does not appear to be a "carrier". so it appears he is transmitting the signal carrierless.


That's an excellent video demonstrating some of the things Tesla was talking about, the only person to actually show some effects other than lightning bolts



yeh one really unique difference is that the filament when lit will attract any nearby metal to the bulb when switched on. It becomes a very weak electromagnet. Ordinary house current does not do that.


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