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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Maybe your boat will float where the titanics sunk!

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

Meyl isn't doing it right anyway.

As for not being scalable, you are referring to the work of the "experts" who knew better. Tesla warned them of the futility of this but they chose not to listen to what he was actually proposing and so they are still under the same delusion today. Refer to Tesla's own illustration as posted earlier by RealOne.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/TESLA/TWP_Tesla_earth_radiation1.jpg

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

As for not being scalable, you are referring to the work of the "experts" who knew better.

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Maybe your boat will float where the titanics sunk!

I asked if you would care to show me a demo.

And not from one of the kits sold by Meyl, as my wireless mouse already uses the same thing to charge its batteries. It doesn't scale, not in distance and not in power. It is readily available, turning a profit, and does something really cool: it makes battery powered gadgets less of a hassle. Nothing new in that. Meyl is aware of this, and has had it pointed out to him by some of the most serious auditing folk out there, without bothering to respond to anyone that might be interested in listening. He has left it a closed case of fraud, rather than an open case of interest. So show me something else, and do it yourself.

Put your good name on the line to catch my interest.

Meyl doesn't have one anymore.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

No, I am referring to Meyl, who is the one referred to by Real0ne. In referring to him, I am pointing out that what he has made and sold is a piece of perfectly ordinary hardware that fails to demonstrate any new effects, including the ones Meyl claims it to show. If he wants to make something to demonstrate a new effect, he has to actually do so. Instead, he demonstrated something quite familiar and supremely uninteresting which does not scale. If he wants to address the scaling problem, he has to show that, rather than ignoring the fact that his previous claims regarding his devices have been debunked.

Meyl may have something. But he hasn't shown it to me, and he has shown me a lie. That's a pretty poor start as convincing goes.

Hence, I'm asking Real0ne to find something more convincing than that man's words.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

No, I am referring to Meyl, who is the one referred to by Real0ne. In referring to him, I am pointing out that what he has made and sold is a piece of perfectly ordinary hardware that fails to demonstrate any new effects, including the ones Meyl claims it to show. If he wants to make something to demonstrate a new effect, he has to actually do so. Instead, he demonstrated something quite familiar and supremely uninteresting which does not scale. If he wants to address the scaling problem, he has to show that, rather than ignoring the fact that his previous claims regarding his devices have been debunked.

Meyl may have something. But he hasn't shown it to me, and he has shown me a lie. That's a pretty poor start as convincing goes.

Hence, I'm asking Real0ne to find something more convincing than that man's words.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

No...........Is that it, no expansion or explaination, just "no"

You and RO are posting misleading crap and trying to fool people into thinking we can have free electricity to run houses, offices, towns and cities. Instead of using oil.......you are both full of nonsense and almost probably one of you a sock.

RO has also tried to convince me of the following

Bush downed the twin towers
George III still owns America
The nazis provided olympic swimming pools for those in the death camps (Got to make them comfy before the gas chambers huh )

And you wonder why I wont fall for the crap he constantly spouts. Next he will be suggesting I slept with Cheryl Cole...... if only eh.

Why should I post more? You only want to waste time. I've never claimed you will get energy sprout out of thin air, in fact I've said you're not going to power your house with anything like that. There's another myth that because Tesla intended to provide the world with "free wireless energy" that the "free" must mean "sprout out of thin air". "Free" means "free to the consumer." The transmitter isn't self-powering. The river that turns the generator is free, and one who owns the generator may do with the generated power whatever he wishes.

The other post is about electric waves. High frequency electric waves = radio waves.

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

Tesla could have 100% and 0% if he wanted, it depends how it's set up. Meyl also doesn't take into consideration that the primary and secondary should have equal copper weight, nor does he have any concern for ensuring that the secondary isn't "dampened" by nearby objects, the whole thing is printed on a solid surface. Also the primary circuit isn't right. All in all, he's just doing what he thinks, and is calling it "Tesla". If he is not doing exactly what Tesla specified then he can't claim to be doing what Tesla specified. This is the problem with the "respected" authorities on the subject, they're not doing it right and everyone listens to them, so if you want disinfo there it is. As they say, if you can't beat em, join em. Why not become the expert and tell them how to do it, the way you want them to do it... He is the one who speaks of "scalar waves" for example, when it has been shown scalar means no frequency = no wave, there can be no such thing as a scalar wave. Meyl may have a demonstration to look at, but the problem with that is because he's not doing it properly then people can easily dismiss it, and as he practically speaks on Tesla's behalf, then it really gets us nowhere. I would say that Eric Dollard is the only person worth listening to on this subject other than Tesla himself.

Thanks for the image info btw, that will come in handy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well it gets difficult to explain why these how these guys are getting lower input power consumption as the load these circuits. I posted videos of the guy with that kick ass lab who makes the same claim as everyone else.

Tesla due to the titanic disaster planned on using this to light up the oceans in addition to supplying wireless power. Where would he get that kind of power? Not from the combined generating plants of the world even today.

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

No, I am referring to Meyl, who is the one referred to by Real0ne. In referring to him, I am pointing out that what he has made and sold is a piece of perfectly ordinary hardware that fails to demonstrate any new effects, including the ones Meyl claims it to show. If he wants to make something to demonstrate a new effect, he has to actually do so. Instead, he demonstrated something quite familiar and supremely uninteresting which does not scale. If he wants to address the scaling problem, he has to show that, rather than ignoring the fact that his previous claims regarding his devices have been debunked.

Meyl may have something. But he hasn't shown it to me, and he has shown me a lie. That's a pretty poor start as convincing goes.

Hence, I'm asking Real0ne to find something more convincing than that man's words.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

Transmitting energy through the air isn't practically scalable. Through the earth is another matter. How do you define convincing? And how would you discern it from an air transmission through a video? If the load powers up at the receiver, how will you be able to tell whether there's anything different going on? That's what's supposed to happen anyway, exactly the same effect as you would see normally - your load powering up. If you don't then it's obviously not working.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

ha!

yeh I agree with you in as much as scalar being a wave. a dc battery is a scalar value. My brain automatically makes the correction and I dont even realize it anymore by registering it as a standing wave anytime someone uses it in reference to something with frequency involved.

Thanks for the stienmezt book, took a very quick glance through it and found part of the formula you posted but not all the pieces to the puzzle.

when you put that up here my first reaction was he was mixing j operator with the real, but maybe not, have to look into that more.

who the fuck is this guy anyway? waas he the ge or westinghouse scientist?

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Charles Proteus Steinmetz (April 9, 1865 – October 26, 1923) was a German-American mathematician and electrical engineer. He fostered the development of alternating current that made possible the expansion of the electric power industry in the United States, formulating mathematical theories for engineers. He made ground-breaking discoveries in the understanding of hysteresis that enabled engineers to design better electric motors for use in industry.

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well it gets difficult to explain why these how these guys are getting lower input power consumption as the load these circuits. I posted videos of the guy with that kick ass lab who makes the same claim as everyone else.

Tesla due to the titanic disaster planned on using this to light up the oceans in addition to supplying wireless power. Where would he get that kind of power? Not from the combined generating plants of the world even today.

Not necessarily. A lot of people get excited when they put a load on their motors/generators and see a reduced input and the rotor speeds up. But there's more than "input and output" going on. I've seen this effect too, I can make my coils use less power when the output is higher, and use more energy with less output. For example the addition of the load may bring the thing into resonance when it was not before, so the input goes down when the load is connected, seemingly looking like something special is happening. Very easy parlour trick that many have used to claim they have a free energy device etc, and experimenters equally innocently fall for it when they see it themselves. A friend has been experimenting with it in an effort to expose the trickery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NfmyyhbZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV_dm8COKBY

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ORIGINAL: dRGreen420

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

ha!

yeh I agree with you in as much as scalar being a wave. a dc battery is a scalar value. My brain automatically makes the correction and I dont even realize it anymore by registering it as a standing wave anytime someone uses it in reference to something with frequency involved.

Thanks for the stienmezt book, took a very quick glance through it and found part of the formula you posted but not all the pieces to the puzzle.

when you put that up here my first reaction was he was mixing j operator with the real, but maybe not, have to look into that more.

who the fuck is this guy anyway? waas he the ge or westinghouse scientist?

Steinmetz?

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Charles Proteus Steinmetz (April 9, 1865 – October 26, 1923) was a German-American mathematician and electrical engineer. He fostered the development of alternating current that made possible the expansion of the electric power industry in the United States, formulating mathematical theories for engineers. He made ground-breaking discoveries in the understanding of hysteresis that enabled engineers to design better electric motors for use in industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Proteus_Steinmetz

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well I am talking about these transmitters and as I have posted earlier the guy with the sec for instance who proves your point, but even with that it can be isolated by a low z output so the change in resonance would be minimal. Should email that guy but it looked to me like he continually retuned it. I will have to watch again.