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So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/13/2012 9:46:43 PM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		Wouldnt it be nice to drive around in cars that needed no gas? no battery? power from the grid or a private source?

Well guess what, it was all possible since 1899 and those entrusted to govern in our best interest and benefit did what they do best. They governed for the best interest and benefit of themselves and their banker pals.

I came out here several years ago and posted this "stuff" and all the kooks called me every pejorative under the sun screaming the tesla tower does not work. You know who you are, some are still here. Lack of knowledge is the gift that keeps biting ya in the ass! :)

MIT and the DOE cant seem to make it happen, so I guess we just have to leave it up to kids in their basements and garages to prove it works.

Thats right this guy is lighting 15 and 25 watt 240 volt bulbs while holding them in his hand with electrical power being transmitted wireless similar to a a typical radio signal, the electricity goes right through his body and still lights the bulb, just like tesla did and without getting a shock.

Now this can be transmitted to ANYWHERE on the planet. NOT like our present day couple mile radio waves.

It works underwater with bare wires and your hands in the water and if your baby sticks the car keys in the outlet NOTHING will happen. Worst case if ANYTHING does happen would be a static carpet like shock that just gives a pin prick like bite, NOT like the current we use now that if your kid does that will cause their muscles to contract harder around the wires and kill them.

This new system of wireless power was created by the very same man that created the system used around the world today and this new system of wireless power was intended to replace the old system we have now. That was in 1899.

Think its time or should we wait another 100 years?

Check this out if you want to be pissed off.

Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale

Look mom I am touching the wires and no shock!


Now as an added bonus due to the nature of this device, it attracts and converts lets just say stuff from the cosmos and one professor in Germany measured as much as 1000% gain at the output.

So why havent our politicians been doing anything along these lines over the last 100 years?

Is it time?


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 7:38:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm curious about all the people blaming the President for the high gas prices last month are not supporting him and telling him what a great job he is doing now that gas prices are dropping. I mean if he is responsible for the increase in gas prices, then he also must be responsible when they drop

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 7:47:21 AM   
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My 1989 Geo Metro got 60 MPG. My current car gets 22. I'm shopping around for a fuel efficient, yet comfortable, car and am Not Impressed by mileage in the 30s and 40s.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 9:59:14 AM   
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Tesla was a genius. The state of energy (and transportation) goes far beyond Tesla's work, but this technology is at times suppressed, and, just as important, people don't like change, even when it's to their own advantage.

I'm building a near-zero energy home this summer. It could actually be zero, if I accepted temperatures in the 50s in February and added a solar water heater. And that's one person acting alone. Collective industry behind such initiatives would change our energy and transportation network beyond our imagination.

We already live in a Brave New World. We just have to decide we're finally OK with that. Tesla's only the start.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 10:24:05 AM   
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I'm curious about all the people blaming the President for the high gas prices last month are not supporting him and telling him what a great job he is doing now that gas prices are dropping. I mean if he is responsible for the increase in gas prices, then he also must be responsible when they drop


If you credit Obama for the drop in the dollar, he IS responsible for falling gas prices, and prolonging the recession, and the mega inflation that follows.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 10:27:44 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 10:35:38 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 10:59:18 AM   
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I thought that was how it worked and what the numbers are reporting, but for one brief shining instant was going to give the the great unwashed the chance to defy fiscal physics with theorectical arguments.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 11:32:23 AM   
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If you credit Obama for the drop in the dollar, he IS responsible for falling gas prices, and prolonging the recession, and the mega inflation that follows.


Are you the invisible guy in "blazing saddles" holding Clevon Little hostage?

Never mind giving Tesla credit for mastering static. Someone should give you a Reagan Award for perfecting the art of making anything sound bad.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 1:25:49 PM   
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My 1989 Geo Metro got 60 MPG.



Actually, it was probably closer to 50 MPG, as it was a 3 cylinder.

1989 Geo Metro
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/5381.shtml


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I'm shopping around for a fuel efficient, yet comfortable, car...



If ya miss your Metro's MPGs, then then this might be of interest to you...

3-cylinder engine is making noise
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120405/AUTO03/204050361



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 1:35:51 PM   
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Wouldnt it be nice to drive around in cars that needed no gas? no battery? power from the grid or a private source?

Well guess what, it was all possible since 1899 and those entrusted to govern in our best interest and benefit did what they do best. They governed for the best interest and benefit of themselves and their banker pals.

Oh yeah it was possible since 1899? R0's proof is two videos demonstrating in basements what is already commonly understood regarding Tesla’s findings with electrostatic energy - some of it is even thought in school http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMD9HiSbtC4 and there are acts that perform similarish stuff for entertainment, holding lighting bulb's in their mouthes etc. The OP then sticks in loads of grandiose claims, such as over the Wardenclyffe Tower. Although an amazing idea, the tower couldn't have worked.

A Battle to Preserve a Visionary’s Bold Failure http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/science/05tesla.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

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The tower could have succeeded in broadcasting information, but not power. “He was an absolute genius,” Dennis Papadopoulos, a physicist at the University of Maryland, said in an interview. “He conceived of things in 1900 that it took us 50 or 60 years to understand. But he did not appreciate dissipation. You can’t start putting a lot of power” into an antenna and expect the energy to travel long distances without great diminution.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 1:35:51 PM   
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I'm sure she'd know better than you how her car performed.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 2:13:12 PM   
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How petty.  Bravo!!! 



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 2:15:01 PM   
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You were the nit-picker.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 2:16:32 PM   
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Someone needs a hobby.



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 2:47:33 PM   
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Tesla was a genius. The state of energy (and transportation) goes far beyond Tesla's work, but this technology is at times suppressed, and, just as important, people don't like change, even when it's to their own advantage.


Given static produces similar field effects to the emp associated with living near high tension wires (electrical grid distribution lines) and there are hug concerns right now that living too close represents a health concern. As are cell phones raising issues once again... I gotta ask... Has there been any research about generating multitudes of static, electricity into the atmosphere in regard to human health?
I'm, not trying to insinuate that I know it does. But I have yet to see a paper on Tesla that wasn't just plain Ron-Paul-Ga-Ga on the guy and mired in mystique.
They're real concerns and worth raising.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 2:51:02 PM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 3:13:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Now as an added bonus due to the nature of this device, it attracts and converts lets just say stuff from the cosmos and one professor in Germany measured as much as 1000% gain at the output.



RealOne, as an engineer, I can say to you that you DO NOT get more energy out of a device than is put in.

The rest of your post ignores the fact that nothing is 100% efficient. Right now, we have the inefficiencies in the IC engine, the extraction of crude oil, the refining of it, the transportation of refined gasoline, etc.

With an electric system, we have the inefficiencies of the combustion of petrochems/generation of electricity and the transmission of electricity. Having a cool method to transmit it doesn't change that equation.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 3:15:28 PM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/14/2012 3:20:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

I'm curious about all the people blaming the President for the high gas prices last month are not supporting him and telling him what a great job he is doing now that gas prices are dropping. I mean if he is responsible for the increase in gas prices, then he also must be responsible when they drop


If you credit Obama for the drop in the dollar, he IS responsible for falling gas prices, and prolonging the recession, and the mega inflation that follows.

Is that the same mega inflation people on the right have been wrong about for 3 yrs? You realize what would of happened in 2010 if we actually adopted their tight money policies? As to the transmission of energy through the airwaves really??? tesla, genuis, electrifiying the atmosphere inefficent lunacy and as bright as flavoring wine with lead. A a national energy policy well, we had one to wean us off foriegn oil 32 yrs ago... and we saw the benefots increased mpg and efficencies produced with 15 yrs of cheap oil but of course we didnt continue down that path after all I should have a right to have cheap gas form my 8mpg pig right? So, we have that right. I just get pissed when it's the people who drive the pigs responsible for the price whining

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