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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/12/2012 8:37:28 AM   
Rochsub2009


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Turquoise is back in fashion again ;)


No, it's not.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/12/2012 9:20:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Turquoise is back in fashion again ;)

No, it's not.

Well, actually it is..... paint, fabric, accessories, shoes, you name it, are all shouting "Turquise is the color of Summer 2012."

OOOoooohhh, go google yourself.

That came out oddly, didn't it?  Maybe we have a new word that means many different things depending on the context. LOL!


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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/12/2012 9:52:24 PM   
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I don't understand those profiles. I have no desire to be an "instant slave" to somebody that I don't know.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 11:44:38 AM   
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The Experiment
"Don't waste My time! Prove your sincerity! You must provide tribute or your message will be deleted unread! Don't expect My attention if you are not generous! I am a Dominant Goddess yadda, yadda, yadda ..."

This sort of profile is very common and I wanted to see if anyone actually goes for it. I copied the pics and profile of a suitably mouthy example and created an Amazon wish list for my new fake profile (giving her a new name and placing her across the country, of course) and waited for the results.

The wish list had paperbacks, lingerie, shoes, soaps, and an iPod, giving a good mix of choices. The pics were of a sexy, 40-some redhead in fetish gear. The text went like this:

The Profile
Now taking applications for potential slaves.
Applicants who do not provide Me with a gift will not be considered.
This is your first test as a potential slave, do not fail.

I offer to you, the opportunity to show Me how sincere you truly are.
Beg Me to choose you as the lucky slave allowed the privilege of serving Me.

You may begin by selecting a gift from My wish list that you feel will reflect your desire to serve and your possible worthiness.
With that in mind, choose carefully potential slave!

MsXXXXX's wish list: http://amzn.com/w/xxxxxxxxx

Once your offering has been sent and meets with My approval, you will be contacted with further instructions.

For now, your instructions are as follows:
1. select a gift from My wish list
2. send the selected tribute to Me
3. send a follow up email that will ONLY say "my first task has been completed Mistress" say NOTHING further! Await further instructions from Me!

All other emails will be promptly deleted!

The Results
It only took 24 hours for someone to buy the fake profile a present. I was surprised it happened that quickly but someone bought a $20 negligee off the Amazon list and sent the required follow up email. Having answered my original question, I took the profile down at that point. (The fake profile had a fake address so his gift'll get returned as undeliverable and he'll get credited.)

The profile actually got a lot of attention in those 24 hours. The most clever reply tried to start up a conversation without actually following the instructions by claiming the wish list wouldn't open. The other responses were just a sentence or two and fell into a few categories, here's the complete breakdown:

Time range: 24 hours from May 19-20.

Viewers: 71 (only logged in viewers are recorded so actual views were much higher)
Admirers: 4
Friend Requests: 2

Messages: 20 total
Complimenting either the pics or the items in the wish list: 6
Making a kinky proposition of some sort: 5
Denouncing the profile as a scam: 3
Saying "Hi": 2
Claiming to have followed instructions without buying anything: 1
Other clearly fake Domme asking how it's going: 1
Claiming wish list wouldn't open: 1
Actually following the instructions: 1

So, in conclusion, no wonder there are so many profiles like this. A longer trial would be interesting: Would the 1 gift per day rate continue? Would anyone make a grand gesture and buy the iPod? Expanding the experiment to have the fake profile interact with people would be (weird|creepy|fascinating|hilarious) also but I will definitely leave that to a more dedicated investigator.



Thanks for the post. Believe me, I hear what you're saying. I remember when I first joined CM I was so psyched! So many dominant females and 50-60 new profiles every day!! But as I started reading the profiles and/or contacting supposedly "dominant" females, it became a bummer fairly quickly. Most of them are just after MONEY. Pro dommes, financial dommes, scam dommes bait-and-switch dommes (the ones who say they're lifestyle dommes, but then want money to meet you) -- that was about 90-95 percent of the female dominant profiles here.

So it was very disappointing. But there are two reasons why this is the case. First, fools like the one who bought you the gift. Second, the idiots who jump on anyone who seems to question the money thing.

So it won't change. And I know what you mean about the difficulty of being a sub male and how it fucks with your head. The guilt, the feeling that you just weren't right -- it sucks. I was 33 years old before I finally accepted that I was a submissive and that it simply wasn't going to change. And then to find such a large population of greedy females who want to exploit your problem, your loneliness for their own financial gain...

I've often wondered if being a submissive male is some sort of karmic punishment -- for something I did in another life. It has been the bane of my existence.

I recently switched to looking for transexuals. The only problem is that it's hard to find one that really looks like a woman. However, they are MUCH more genuine about the drive to dominate.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:02:54 PM   
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Yea cause there is no such thing as greedy submissive males who only want the Domme to do what they want and mask behind the old saying"it's all about you Goddess". Or the males who swear they are submissive until the Domme does something they don't like, then it's all of a sudden "I wanna take my ball and go home" syndrome.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:15:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Yea cause there is no such thing as greedy submissive males who only want the Domme to do what they want and mask behind the old saying"it's all about you Goddess". Or the males who swear they are submissive until the Domme does something they don't like, then it's all of a sudden "I wanna take my ball and go home" syndrome.


Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

What they're asking for may seem selfish to you, but it's GENUINE. Understand? GENUINE. And you can always say no. And you probably do.

It's not like they'd be willing to ACT submissive. It's not like they're exploiting anyones liability/problem. And I guess they shouldn't tell you what they like? I guess they should make like they like something they don't like? WTF kind of dishonest relationship is that?


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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:22:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dink22


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Yea cause there is no such thing as greedy submissive males who only want the Domme to do what they want and mask behind the old saying"it's all about you Goddess". Or the males who swear they are submissive until the Domme does something they don't like, then it's all of a sudden "I wanna take my ball and go home" syndrome.


Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

What they're asking for may seem selfish to you, but it's GENUINE. Understand? GENUINE. And you can always say no. And you probably do.

It's not like they'd be willing to ACT submissive. It's not like they're exploiting anyones liability/problem. And I guess they shouldn't tell you what they like? I guess they should make like they like something they don't like? WTF kind of dishonest relationship is that?





Missing the point a tiny bit? It IS dishonest when a man says that he is "submissive" when all he wants is free access to my toys, to be used on him exactly as he directs, and his interest in me is over when the scene is over. THAT is the selfish "submissive".

I am sure that it is utterly genuine to want to have a spectacular wank fantasy come true. With the right person, I enjoy doing that. That right person is interested in ME, not some costumed woman with big tits and a toybag.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:43:21 PM   
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hmmmmmm, maybe i should put up a fake pic & MY wishlist.......

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:48:30 PM   
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lmfao! that was priceless

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Heh what else is new? Women on this site have it all. They are ridiculously spoilt. While most males on the other hand are shit out of luck.


They're not, they're dealing with arses, some of them right in our faces... If you complain about being shit out of luck, it could have to do with your presentation, now if you're too poor to buy yourself undies, I gladly chip in, just for the love of my eyes...



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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 12:56:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dink22

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

What they're asking for may seem selfish to you, but it's GENUINE. Understand? GENUINE. And you can always say no. And you probably do.

It's not like they'd be willing to ACT submissive. It's not like they're exploiting anyones liability/problem. And I guess they shouldn't tell you what they like? I guess they should make like they like something they don't like? WTF kind of dishonest relationship is that?




Shhhhh, calm down a moment. Breath... it will help.

Submissives do ask for... a home, a place to stay when they have none. They do ask for sexual exploration before anything else. They do expect a woman around here to pay attention to matters of cock and kink, without any foundation of anything prior or other than that. They do ask for personal information before they even know your real name. They do ask for kink and rarely wish to submit unless it has something to do with kink and then it better only be in the bedroom or lead there. They do expect all the benefits without providing any, other than their body as a toy for us to play with.

There are many sides to what looks like it could be a two sided thing.

Within the right circumstances... it is good that a domina knows what a submissive likes. It is good to talk about it. It should be honest... but it should have some foundation or balance both can agree upon. Everything has a place and time... some just figure any place and any time is the time. Wrong.


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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:00:09 PM   
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*Sigh*. If only all of us involved in D/s could have a bit more understanding about just where our self-centredness stops and our other-centredness starts.

It is *OK* to be selfish to some degree.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:04:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

*Sigh*. If only all of us involved in D/s could have a bit more understanding about just where our self-centredness stops and our other-centredness starts.

It is *OK* to be selfish to some degree.


Darling? You're right, but really, so not what we're talking about here.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:10:39 PM   
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See here, old cheese, my self-centeredness begins and ends with me, (the self and hyphen was a hint although mine is a grand enough concept that it should be able to stand on its own without resorting to compounding) and anybody elses centeredness is dismissed out of hand as being unnecessary to my well being.  

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:16:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: dink22


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Yea cause there is no such thing as greedy submissive males who only want the Domme to do what they want and mask behind the old saying"it's all about you Goddess". Or the males who swear they are submissive until the Domme does something they don't like, then it's all of a sudden "I wanna take my ball and go home" syndrome.


Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

What they're asking for may seem selfish to you, but it's GENUINE. Understand? GENUINE. And you can always say no. And you probably do.

It's not like they'd be willing to ACT submissive. It's not like they're exploiting anyones liability/problem. And I guess they shouldn't tell you what they like? I guess they should make like they like something they don't like? WTF kind of dishonest relationship is that?





Missing the point a tiny bit?



Not at all. You equate greed with need. They are totally different, and there's no point even discussing the issue if you can't see the difference. And, like many females, I think you just don't want to see the difference.


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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:17:59 PM   
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Since I am not asking for anyone's money, just their interest and attention, I am the greedy one? Excellent!

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:18:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dink22


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Yea cause there is no such thing as greedy submissive males who only want the Domme to do what they want and mask behind the old saying"it's all about you Goddess". Or the males who swear they are submissive until the Domme does something they don't like, then it's all of a sudden "I wanna take my ball and go home" syndrome.


Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

Submissive males don't ask for MONEY.

What they're asking for may seem selfish to you, but it's GENUINE. Understand? GENUINE. And you can always say no. And you probably do.

It's not like they'd be willing to ACT submissive. It's not like they're exploiting anyones liability/problem. And I guess they shouldn't tell you what they like? I guess they should make like they like something they don't like? WTF kind of dishonest relationship is that?





So you are asking to have your kinks fulfilled for free, how GENUINE... And not like you would ever top from the bottom and want things for FREE...

You know what, I wouldn't say no, I would say HELL NO because I wouldn't want a dishonest creep pretending to be submissive and being gung ho. What kind of a dishonest person are you? You want somebody to spend their time and effort on you, nothing back apart the "pleasure of being your fetish delivery system", hey, if that is not dishonest, selfish and deluded, I really don't know. Had much luck in your search? I somehow doubt it... Ahhh I guess I am not really dominant, but I just don't feel like saying "And how may I dominate you today?"

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:22:45 PM   
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Hummmmm... dink and I are in the same area. dink and I are the same age. dink and I haven't spoken in the last six months if ever. Hummm... I don't ask for money. I wonder what in the world is wrong with a lifestyle domina, close by, that doesn't ask for money? hehehe

dink? Ya there? I am here. Now's your chance to say what's wrong with me and why if you want the real stuff... what I offer... you don't contact me.

Batter up!

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:24:04 PM   
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Since I am not asking for anyone's money, just their interest and attention, I am the greedy one? Excellent!


No. You're not greedy. I made it clear that there are 5-10 percent who don't fall into the "money" category.

And also that one of the problems was the people who were apologists for those who do.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:25:17 PM   
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Thanks for performing and reporting on such a useful experiment, too many people's profiles just scream "scam" these days. Although, it's worth it to note that there's a fine difference between actual scammers and doms just being themselves. It'd be one thing for a guy who isn't even interested in d/s to be creating profiles on sites like this for the sole purpose of monetary gain. It's a completely separate matter for a bitch of a dom to just have subs send her gifts. Even if she has no intention of ever contacting any of those people, she's exerting clear dominance over the internet's overwilling subs. A win-win situation in my book. One party gets some sadistic financial gain and the other party involved gets to be used like the idiotic wallets that they see themselves as.

So, all it really comes down to in terms of "fairness" is that everyone is representing themselves as themselves for BDSM reasons only.

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RE: 24 Hours as a Fake Domme - 6/14/2012 1:27:51 PM   
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Hummmmm... dink and I are in the same area. dink and I are the same age. dink and I haven't spoken in the last six months if ever. Hummm... I don't ask for money. I wonder what in the world is wrong with a lifestyle domina, close by, that doesn't ask for money? hehehe

dink? Ya there? I am here. Now's your chance to say what's wrong with me and why if you want the real stuff... what I offer... you don't contact me.

Batter up!


You know damn well what the issue is. I practically offered you my submission on a silver platter at least twice. I even said I would support you through your health issues. No response.

I'm done with that shit.

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