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dink22 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 7:02:40 AM)

I like how anyone who expresses an opinion different than PrincessLily91 and TNdommeK is automatically a "troll." There are many people who agree with me and the evidence is all over this board.

But that just gets ignored in favor of a personal attack on yet another person who sees "financial domination" as a total farce. Great. There is an old adage that whenever someone does something disgusting that they really disagree with deep down inside, they always make themselves believe they are doing it for the noblest of reasons. That seems to be in play here.




kalikshama -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 7:14:44 AM)

It wasn't THAT you disagreed, but the unpleasant way in which you did it, which actually violated the TOS by insulting the kinks of others. You (and I) may not get Fin Dom, but it's a valid kink.



dink22 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 7:43:16 AM)

It used to be (maybe not any more, IDK) that the TOS said specifically there could be NO mention of "financial domination" in a profile.



OsideGirl -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 7:48:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

It wasn't THAT you disagreed, but the unpleasant way in which you did it, which actually violated the TOS by insulting the kinks of others. You (and I) may not get Fin Dom, but it's a valid kink.


This is correct. You were offensive and were treated like you were offensive.



LadyPact -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 8:00:20 AM)

Lily, seriously, calling yourself a pro while coming to the boards for advice because you don't know what you are doing is not helping the case on this thread. 

On to dink.  TOS has never said that financial domination could not be a kink listed on a profile.  At least not in the five years that I've been here.



OsideGirl -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 8:12:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Lily, seriously, calling yourself a pro while coming to the boards for advice because you don't know what you are doing is not helping the case on this thread. 



That's a good point too. When you're payed to do something, but ask everyone else to come up with ideas, we basically view that as we're doing your job, while you get paid.



PrincessLily91 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 8:59:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Lily, seriously, calling yourself a pro while coming to the boards for advice because you don't know what you are doing is not helping the case on this thread. 

On to dink.  TOS has never said that financial domination could not be a kink listed on a profile.  At least not in the five years that I've been here.



I would agree with you, only I am not sure which profile you are reading, as nowhere on my profile or posts here do I say I am "Pro" at anything. In fact, in every category (except shopping, hehe) I listed begginer. Nobody has paid me to play with anyone yet and I am not asking for creative ideas from any of you so that I can cash in on your style. All I asked was for some advice on how to play safe before I start playing/exploring with others. That was it. Both of my questions were SAFETY related.

And furthermore that has NOTHING to do with this thread which about banning a certain niche and age group beause they are not valid kink or people apparently. I never said I was a pro...I said that I am young, inexperienced, and learning. I have an older sub who is very experienced in a lot of areas and is teaching me what he can, but regardless I can't get to where you are by sitting here and doing nothing.

I thought this was a kink community where we could discuss kink and learn from each other. But instead, you ask a question and everyone wants to snark, criticize, or belittle you. I don't get it. [sm=donttaseme.gif]



OsideGirl -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 9:06:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PrincessLily91

I thought this was a kink community where we could discuss kink and learn from each other. But instead, you ask a question and everyone wants to snark, criticize, or belittle you. I don't get it. [sm=donttaseme.gif]


It is. But, many people mistake that for getting someone else to present them with all the answers. If you show that you're willing to put in the effort to learn, the response is much different. ie: the "FinDomme" that came and said, "I have a new submissive and I need ideas to humiliate him on cam". That's expecting us to do the work you're paid to do without even the pleasantries of "please" and "thank you".



LadyPact -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 9:15:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PrincessLily91
I would agree with you, only I am not sure which profile you are reading, as nowhere on my profile or posts here do I say I am "Pro" at anything. In fact, in every category (except shopping, hehe) I listed begginer. Nobody has paid me to play with anyone yet and I am not asking for creative ideas from any of you so that I can cash in on your style. All I asked was for some advice on how to play safe before I start playing/exploring with others. That was it. Both of my questions were SAFETY related.

And furthermore that has NOTHING to do with this thread which about banning a certain niche and age group beause they are not valid kink or people apparently. I never said I was a pro...I said that I am young, inexperienced, and learning. I have an older sub who is very experienced in a lot of areas and is teaching me what he can, but regardless I can't get to where you are by sitting here and doing nothing.

I thought this was a kink community where we could discuss kink and learn from each other. But instead, you ask a question and everyone wants to snark, criticize, or belittle you. I don't get it. [sm=donttaseme.gif]

But you want to be paid for doing clips on ballbusting, correct?  You know, that thing you really don't know how to do safely, but want to get paid for.

Christ, you couldn't be further away from making the case for the OP.  If you want to get paid, you're a pro.  That used to stand for professional, but obviously, it doesn't anymore.

If you have to come here to ask about your trade, you've got bigger problems than Me giving you a hard time.



PrincessLily91 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 9:18:28 AM)

But that isn't even close to what I did. I do ballbust my slave. All the time. I know HIS limits. And we did that by exploring. That's great, but I have others guys asking to pay to play. I've never done this with someone else and want to be safe doing it. Also, I'm considering trying to push my limits with my personal sub. So I came to the board and asked respectfully for advice on how to safely gauge a slave's limits you've never played with before. I am not asking you to tell me how to kick in balls or be dominating or for scene ideas. It was an honest question to dommes with experience and a very reasonable one at that.

The answer could be as simple as "there isn't one" or maybe there is some kind of class for it. Maybe you have some techniques for playing safely you can describe online. I don't know, but my question was not a greedy one and it wasn't anyhting that should disgrace my niche or "not help the case for this thread".



PrincessLily91 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 9:28:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: PrincessLily91
I would agree with you, only I am not sure which profile you are reading, as nowhere on my profile or posts here do I say I am "Pro" at anything. In fact, in every category (except shopping, hehe) I listed begginer. Nobody has paid me to play with anyone yet and I am not asking for creative ideas from any of you so that I can cash in on your style. All I asked was for some advice on how to play safe before I start playing/exploring with others. That was it. Both of my questions were SAFETY related.

And furthermore that has NOTHING to do with this thread which about banning a certain niche and age group beause they are not valid kink or people apparently. I never said I was a pro...I said that I am young, inexperienced, and learning. I have an older sub who is very experienced in a lot of areas and is teaching me what he can, but regardless I can't get to where you are by sitting here and doing nothing.

I thought this was a kink community where we could discuss kink and learn from each other. But instead, you ask a question and everyone wants to snark, criticize, or belittle you. I don't get it. [sm=donttaseme.gif]

But you want to be paid for doing clips on ballbusting, correct?  You know, that thing you really don't know how to do safely, but want to get paid for.

Christ, you couldn't be further away from making the case for the OP.  If you want to get paid, you're a pro.  That used to stand for professional, but obviously, it doesn't anymore.

If you have to come here to ask about your trade, you've got bigger problems than Me giving you a hard time.



I have already done clips on ballbusting (and many other things). Again, I play this way with my sub all the time so it's not something I just randomly decided to do today. The clips sell. People like them. I did have some customers say they would prefer more intensity. So I asked how I might do that SAFELY. Why is that bad to ask????

I don't charge a lot for my clips. They are probably the equivalant of "ametuer" porn. But there is a place for that and I don't do it soley for the money, I do it because it's fun. The fact that others will pay to share in viewing my fun is a perk. I am not a 10+ year pro no. But in every proffession you have "entry level" and they still get paid despite the lack of experience and can ask for advice from people above them...so I am not sure what your point is.



TNDommeK -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 9:56:28 AM)

You guys, Lily has a point. I read her questions on the other thread. I gave her what I thought was good advice. You have to start somewhere and I would want to make sure I was doing things safely. And what better way than to ask people who have experience? No harm that I see. I would rather her ask opinions of more experienced people than to think she already knows everything and seriously hurt someone.

On to Dink, you were clearly wrong in how you gave your opinion. And yes, I say troll because when people post in the manner that you did, it usually is a sub looking for a free lashing. If you do not like fin or pro Dommes..good for you. Don't talk to us. Simply move on to the next profile. It's that easy. You claim to be able to lead us with your wallet, what if someone like Me told you to go fuck yourself with your wallet and your money? How could you lead then? Serious question there. Not everyone is the same, you need to understand that. Instead of coming on a message board and saying what you said, you could have said something else, still given your opinion but not in an idiotic manner. I'd be willing to be that when most readers read your comment, they shook their heads or sighed, just because of the manner you typed it in; even if they didn't like fin or pros. Dude, learn how to interact with people. Your opinions are welcome, not your ill made comments.


Edited to add: By the way, good morning to all.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:03:00 AM)

Word of advice. THey dont want to help you, they (certain ones) want to taunt and belittle you it is their game Princesslilly. Id stick to your own intiution and thoughts. ANd cudos to You, I bet your more PRO then the ones arguing with you.




LadyPact -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:16:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

You guys, Lily has a point. I read her questions on the other thread. I gave her what I thought was good advice. You have to start somewhere and I would want to make sure I was doing things safely. And what better way than to ask people who have experience? No harm that I see. I would rather her ask opinions of more experienced people than to think she already knows everything and seriously hurt someone.

Good morning to you, too, K.

You know, I'm not attacking you, but how much can one verify how to do things safely on the net?  The fact that she came here, rather than get substantiated research, only shows her misguidance.  It's not the fin dom angle I have a problem with.  It's the Reader's Digest compressed version of kink that is the issue.

Had I written a post that I *knew* would cause harm, with just a dash of believability, how much do you want to bet someone would take it as gospel?



TNDommeK -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:17:36 AM)

Is it just Me or is every time you post something it always seems negative?

*Checking your profile and previous forum posts* Why yes, it is you and all your awesomeness...dude seriously, is your life that boring that you have to troll your way into every thread and attempt to cause a commotion? Here's a word of advice to you..facebook is more fun to troll, as is a live chat help site. Now run along, go play.



OsideGirl -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:17:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I would rather her ask opinions of more experienced people than to think she already knows everything and seriously hurt someone.
I agree with this too. I can actually see both sides. Everyone starts somewhere, but if you've labeled yourself as "professional" people will expect you to have that knowledge. Too bad it's not like plumbers where there's designations of apprentice, journeyman and master.

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Edited to add: By the way, good morning to all.


Good morning TN!



LadyPact -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:17:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Word of advice. THey dont want to help you, they (certain ones) want to taunt and belittle you it is their game Princesslilly. Id stick to your own intiution and thoughts. ANd cudos to You, I bet your more PRO then the ones arguing with you.


You bet your ass.  I'm not pro at all.  I'm *just* a lifestyle chick.



OsideGirl -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:20:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Word of advice. THey dont want to help you, they (certain ones) want to taunt and belittle you it is their game Princesslilly. Id stick to your own intiution and thoughts. ANd cudos to You, I bet your more PRO then the ones arguing with you.




Your bitterness is showing. We tried to help you. You told everyone to eat shit and then proceeded to tell everyone on the forums that our relationships were fake. You reap what you sow.



TNDommeK -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:21:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

You guys, Lily has a point. I read her questions on the other thread. I gave her what I thought was good advice. You have to start somewhere and I would want to make sure I was doing things safely. And what better way than to ask people who have experience? No harm that I see. I would rather her ask opinions of more experienced people than to think she already knows everything and seriously hurt someone.

Good morning to you, too, K.

You know, I'm not attacking you, but how much can one verify how to do things safely on the net?  The fact that she came here, rather than get substantiated research, only shows her misguidance.  It's not the fin dom angle I have a problem with.  It's the Reader's Digest compressed version of kink that is the issue.

Had I written a post that I *knew* would cause harm, with just a dash of believability, how much do you want to bet someone would take it as gospel?


I totally agree with you on the reader's digest part. I just see a young Domme reaching out to more experienced ones. I don't know if she listed herself as pro or not, but I like the fact that she does see something she might need expertise in and not just think she knows everything. I automatically thought of you and CP when I read her post about looking for advice.

Edited to say: After reading your response and My post, I thought of this. Where would she have thought to go to gain knowledge (other than experience, and possibly hurting the sub). She is young and this is probably the only area of BDSM she knows. Unless she is on fetlife. Which I recommend Lily. Meaning this is probably the only site she thought safe to ask someone.



LadyPact -> RE: Young "Financial Dommes" (5/31/2012 10:27:38 AM)

But, where did CP and I gain our knowledge?  Time and effort.

ETA - (Since you did, dammit.)  Books, demos, mentors.



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