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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 8:54:05 AM

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There was someone on here once, that was advocating a list for the genuines (but same deal different side of the coin, and this was my response):

OK, let's just think about the realisticness, regardless of the laudable intent of one proposal:

The national or global safe call line:

So, I register: whadda ya want
Herman T Ferbisher
license M-410-636-565-739
phone 218 555 1212
ssn 567-890-1234
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Dismal Seepage, North Dakota 57222

forget the fact that all the above is fugazi...easy enough to spoof....but let's say it's real
so at some point a bunch of people are on this centralized and managed list....they have lesbians, and mouthpieces and gestapo that are on the panel for this oversight.... cooli-fuckin'-o,
so I hook up with some bimbo from Ghana who is looking to hoover my Ingvald the Intruder for a couple weeks straight...........
astonishing and astounding..........
couple weeks later, she is on the rag and is unsure if all her moving parts are still there,
who knows, didn't slap her tits square enough; didn't get her pissflaps vibrating at 109.9 megacycles; whatever---as so often happens, without the least little bit of guile, completely without rancor and vengance in her rotten little fuckin' heart, and totally devoid of anything other than innocence, she goes to the local constable and asks, is this common? am I the only one? I signed up on this list, and------------------

List? List? says the Lavrenty Beria guy in charge at the local constabulary.

Badda Bing, Badda Boom...........welcome to the largest terroristic and sexual predator conspiracy bust in the world............

J. Edgar Hoover only need stick the floppy in drive C: and hit enter and open a folder in the Washington computer and file it under codename UNSUCK ----

Or am I chicken little and need to calm the fuck down, because the issues are clearly delineated by the crack troops manning the perimeter here?

But, I guess I am a pish-tosher of the highest order, and am in need of an assurance from the inner sanctum, that I don't have to cut the rug with Charlie Manson Saturday night and I'm the guy wearing the ribbons in my hair over this personal information.

John "FUCKIN'" Doe

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 8:55:36 AM

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When there is no way to verify the veracity of the information going into the database, it renders the database unusable. Garbage in-garbage out.

Your system won't work.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 8:56:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

So my "blacklist" is NOT a "blacklist" because ANYBODY could choose to chat with the listed people as often and as long as they wish.

You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.

black·list /ˈblækˌlɪst/ Show Spelled[blak-list] Show IPA
noun
1. a list of persons under suspicion, disfavor, censure, etc.:

If it's not a blacklist, what is it? Hell, you even called it a blacklist.. just not a 'real' blacklist.

Too funny and rather ironic.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 8:58:53 AM

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stef: The clue by four ain't workin' here. You got a clue by eight maybe?

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:00:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

stef: The clue by four ain't workin' here. You got a clue by eight maybe?

Some folks are just destined to remain clueless.

Maybe we should start a list?

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:00:54 AM

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Kalikshama:

Yes---I have read the post you refer to. But my proposal is entirely different.

This may offend you, but you guys are creating STRAW-MAN ARGUMENTS. I am NOT advocating ANY penalty or ANY adverse action to be taken against ANYBODY for ANY reason.

I am simply suggesting that a VOLUNTARY list be created. If, for example, YOU are opposed to such lists, then you would NEVER even look at it.

On the other hand, suppose you decided to look at it and you discovered that somebody you have been chatting with has been listed several times by different people within a relatively short period of time (say within 2-3 weeks). WHAT WOULD THEN HAPPEN?

1. YOU would make YOUR OWN decision regarding whether or not to continue chatting with the person whom you are enamored with at the moment.

2. Because of his/her name being listed, it might give you an incentive to ask more probing questions or ask for some proof of sincerity because you have limited time to spend online and you prefer to spend it with GENUINE people--EVEN IF they ultimately reject you as being incompatible.

3. OR even though you conclude that the person IS a fake and a liar -- you might decide to CONTINUE chatting with him/her -- because you ENJOY the experience! Which would be PERFECTLY FINE!

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Did you click on the link in post 3?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1163969/tm.htm

7/24/2007

This issue comes up so often in posts by new members that we felt it necessary to make a special post about this one issue. To be sure, there are all kinds of people in the world and, given that we (like other public websites) don't have the ability to dictate who joins our website, you will meet all kinds of people here; some very nice (like yourself), some not so much. It is perhaps for this reason that new users are wont to post about their bad experiences with this or that person or even come up with the very original idea of making a list of all the "bad" users on the site. As has been recounted countless times, the fundamental flaw with this idea is not that it is ill intended, it is that there is not, nor can there be, any fact checking of such claims.

If you still believe that blacklists are a good idea then consider the following thought experiment. Suppose that someone made up a malicious and horrible lie about you and posted it to a blacklist on the forum. Would you want us to take it down after you informed us of your innocence or would you be fine with us leaving it up despite your most impassioned pleas that the facts alleged about you were false? It is a pretty safe bet that you would want those false claims removed in a hurry. Now let us suppose that true claims are posted about a real jerk attesting to what a jerk he is. Further suppose that this jerk approaches us with the same passion you did, demanding that the true assertions about him are false and must be remove immediately. Both you and the other user come to us claiming passionately to be innocent but which one are we to believe? When you know the answer to that question, you will know why blacklists are not permitted.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:01:18 AM

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Here is the bottom-line:

1. Suppose you are contacted by screen name "PerfectSoulMate" (PSM)
2. Suppose you are enchanted with that person and you exchange messages here on CM for 30 minutes and then you start a conversation on Yahoo messenger
3. THEN, suppose you become suspicious of PerfectSoulMate because of something that seems not quite right
4. Suppose you then check the database and you notice that 4 other people within the past 2 weeks have listed "PSM" as a fake and a liar -- and they specify the reasons
5. THEN you can make an INFORMED choice:

(a) You could CONTINUE to exchange messages with PSM for as long as you want. BUT, maybe, seeing the listing on the CM database would make you ask some more probing questions or maybe you would ask PSM to provide you with something to prove his/her sincerity

OR

(b) You could decide that PSM is a fake and a liar. THEN, you could (1) continue chatting with each other because you enjoy it even though you know he/she is phony, or (2) you could end your online experience with him/her because you want to use your limited time with someone GENUINE!

Ok for the FORTH time now - Geeze!

SOMEONE ALREADY MADE A SITE TO DO THIS - Just use Google (I am not posting the link I found here because I do not advocate the concept of blacklisting)

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:05:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

stef: The clue by four ain't workin' here. You got a clue by eight maybe?

Some folks are just destined to remain clueless.

Maybe we should start a list?

THIS ^^^^^^^^

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:06:35 AM

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I am NOT advocating ANY penalty or ANY adverse action to be taken against ANYBODY for ANY reason.

I am simply suggesting that a VOLUNTARY list be created. If, for example, YOU are opposed to such lists, then you would NEVER even look at it.

And you then have your list, and I dont want you looking at mine, it is the hide button and the block button, none of your goddamn business whos on mine, and I don't begin to give the glimmer of a fuck whos on yours, and I volunteer that to you outright

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:11:25 AM

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BITA:

I did not introduce the term "blacklist". A previous contributor did. That term DOES NOT really apply to what I am suggesting because:

(1) I am NOT proposing ANY adverse action be taken against ANYBODY

(2) Nobody would be prevented from using this site. Nobody would receive any warnings to cease and desist.

BY DEFINITION, a genuine blacklist PREVENTS people from participating or becoming members or being employed -- simply because their name appears on a blacklist.

A genuine blacklist exists to list people whom will NOT BE ALLOWED to be members of an organization, or to be employed, or to participate in some event or function or service.

My proposal is PRECISELY OPPOSITE because it DOES NOT PREVENT ANYBODY (even someone whom YOU would AGREE is a fake and a liar) from doing EXACTLY what they do right now! NOBODY would be denied participation on this site. Nobody would have ANY adverse action taken against them.

My proposal simply creates a tool whereby GENUINE people have information to assist them with contacting other GENUINE people

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

So my "blacklist" is NOT a "blacklist" because ANYBODY could choose to chat with the listed people as often and as long as they wish.

You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.

black·list /ˈblækˌlɪst/ Show Spelled[blak-list] Show IPA
noun
1. a list of persons under suspicion, disfavor, censure, etc.:

If it's not a blacklist, what is it? Hell, you even called it a blacklist.. just not a 'real' blacklist.

Too funny and rather ironic.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:13:45 AM

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Add more ALL CAPS and bold text to your replies. It makes them more valid.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:15:50 AM

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You know what - I think you just want the attention

I have now told you Five times

Someone Already Did Make A Site For That

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:16:33 AM

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Not sure what your point is. I have no interest in whomever is on your blocked list.

However, if I receive 100 contacts per week, I certainly would prefer to spend my time on whatever number of them are genuine as opposed to wasting my time with whatever number are fakes and liars. Wouldn't you??

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am NOT advocating ANY penalty or ANY adverse action to be taken against ANYBODY for ANY reason.

I am simply suggesting that a VOLUNTARY list be created. If, for example, YOU are opposed to such lists, then you would NEVER even look at it.

And you then have your list, and I dont want you looking at mine, it is the hide button and the block button, none of your goddamn business whos on mine, and I don't begin to give the glimmer of a fuck whos on yours, and I volunteer that to you outright

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:17:39 AM

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Sorry dude, sometimes you just have to put the effort into finding a genuine person all by yourself. There are no quick help answers. We all go through it. Sure it's annoying to spend time talking to someone and then it go no where, you just have to suck it up and move on. OR, you could get out in the real world to meet people. Then you could see right away that they weren't GENUINE.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:18:23 AM

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pshornyguy, how about I make a list and the first name I put on it is your own? I personally have my own opinion of you and so far, you haven't impressed me. Not that you would need to, but if you had your way in this, I could rock your world in a way you wouldn't like it. You would be one of the first ones I called a problem child simply for most everything you have on your profile. I don't see you in any way as someone that I would want one of my friends with. So I come after you... I get my friends to look at your profile and come after you too. Guess what? You are going to be effected whether the site had any penalty or not.

I have seen people blacklisted... treated badly by groups of friends and asking others to be mean to them simply because they said no thank you.

Stop bucking the system here. Enjoy the site and be the adult you are and do your own screening or take the risks we all have anywhere online. Buck up... take it like a man. Stop trying to regulate people unfairly.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:19:59 AM

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Ya, I've been told I wasn't a true submissive after telling a guy no sex on the first date. Better add myself to the list too. I need to add him, as well, cuz he was way too focused on vanilla sex to be a TWUE DOM.

See how that works, OP? We just weren't compatible, but neither of us was a fake.

Scoots over and offers popcorn. So nice to no longer be here by myself.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:31:10 AM

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Well, Stef, I use caps and bold when people make false assertions or present straw-man arguments. I have written probably a dozen times that I am not proposing any adverse action be taken against anybody for any reason --- but, nevertheless, I keep getting messages based upon the premise that I want someone to be denied access to this site or otherwise prevented from doing what they want to do.

I will make a deal with you though:

How about explaining to me as precisely as you can, what would be (in your judgment) the most terrible thing about my proposal if it were enacted?

Let me summarize it again:

1. You are contacted by someone and you spend several hours chatting with him/her.
2. After a while you conclude that person has been dishonest with you (about themselves in particular) -- thus wasting your time
3. You then enter the screen name and email address of that person onto a database along with a brief reason for your negative evaluation
4. Nobody is required to do anything about the person you listed.
5. The information merely exists for anybody who wants to consult the list because they have reason to believe that someone here is dishonest

6. What would be the ultimate end-result?

a. Fakes and liars might decide to leave the site

b. Fakes and liars might stay on the site and continue their behavior BUT genuine people here could consult the list and thus have some warning, resulting in early termination of exchanges with bogus people (unless they enjoy chatting with fakes and liars)

So, tell me Stef, what would be so terrible about that?

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ORIGINAL: stef

Add more ALL CAPS and bold text to your replies. It makes them more valid.

< Message edited by pshornyguy -- 6/9/2012 9:33:50 AM >

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:31:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Not sure what your point is. I have no interest in whomever is on your blocked list.

However, if I receive 100 contacts per week, I certainly would prefer to spend my time on whatever number of them are genuine as opposed to wasting my time with whatever number are fakes and liars. Wouldn't you??

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am NOT advocating ANY penalty or ANY adverse action to be taken against ANYBODY for ANY reason.

I am simply suggesting that a VOLUNTARY list be created. If, for example, YOU are opposed to such lists, then you would NEVER even look at it.

And you then have your list, and I dont want you looking at mine, it is the hide button and the block button, none of your goddamn business whos on mine, and I don't begin to give the glimmer of a fuck whos on yours, and I volunteer that to you outright

my point is that is my list, your list is your list, Bitas list is Bitas list, amds list is amds list, kalikos list is kalikos list, and stefs list is stefs list, ad nauseam.

We all prefer to spend our time with the genuine, so much so in fact that I want you to wade thru your own fakes and liars as you view them, so I can concentrate strictly on the wanton cocksuckers on this site, without you interfering, by being occupied elsewhere.

So for no other reason than we ain't brothers, the world doesn't owe you a living, and I aint the fuckin red cross here to do any hard lifting for you, and give a helping hand, you aint getting my or anyone elses list, regardless of whether the site thinks thats cute or not (and right now and for long as I remember, it is not cute in thier estimation)

That clear it up for you?

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:32:44 AM

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Well, Stef, I use caps and bold when people make false assertions or present straw-man arguments.

the definition of straw-man arguments does not mean what you think it means.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 9:34:25 AM

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Hmmm... if I report Ron as being a fake, it will mean more female subs for me. Tempting...

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