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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:10:34 AM   
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NO.  If he was always right I wouldn't have dragged him to the ER yesterday and he would have died. 

I do hope you make exceptions to the "what I say goes" attitude, DS. 


No. As I said, I WILL LISTEN to my sub. If she can convince me that my life is in danger, my judgment is such that I will take immediate action to deal with that situation. If it wasn't, she wouldn't have accepted me as her Dom. She TRUSTS my judgment, even if it leads to some situations she'd rather not be in at times.


The problem here is that you are assuming you are able to think normally.  A high concentration of CO2 in the bloodstream means that you are not able to make proper judgements. 

I am not arguing with you.  I am just pointing out that there may be times when someone might really not be able to make a good assessment of a situation and take proper action.  The chemistry of your body is a very delicate thing.  A change in it can make you think strangely.  I know.  I am dealing with it right now.  He is my Dom, but his thought processes are faulty at the moment.  No one is above having something similar happen to their own through processes. 

You want to know how this CO2 thing messed with his mind?  He thinks I called an ambulance to take him to the hospital.  He remembers two burly guys picking him up and putting him on a gurney for the trip.  In actuality I was able to get him into the car and drove him myself. 


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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:30:10 AM   
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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:43:53 AM   
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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:54:24 AM   
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NO.  If he was always right I wouldn't have dragged him to the ER yesterday and he would have died. 

I do hope you make exceptions to the "what I say goes" attitude, DS. 


No. As I said, I WILL LISTEN to my sub. If she can convince me that my life is in danger, my judgment is such that I will take immediate action to deal with that situation. If it wasn't, she wouldn't have accepted me as her Dom. She TRUSTS my judgment, even if it leads to some situations she'd rather not be in at times.


DarkSteven, with all due respect, it is a classic male trait (even in the vanilla world) for men to deny that they need medical assistance in an emergency. It could be hard wiring, or something else, but men are often the last to admit they need help even in a critical situation like a heart attack or stroke. For your sake, I hope there are some rare occasions when your submissive will just tell you to "shut the f*** up" and just get in the car/ambulance. Sometimes, the submissive really is not only right, but should make the decision, and be listened to.

My very vanilla father would not be on the face of the planet still if my mother had not chosen to ignore his "I'm fine".....

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 12:05:01 PM   
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Unless that Dom can predict the future and constantly keep you well paid and out of danger......no. But there are two sides to every story and perspective matters much.

not sure what your point is. nobody can predict the future. good smart leaders can make informed choices though, and have good track records, and people tend to follow that. yes, there's always two (or more) sides to every story, so what? yes, good smart leaders can be wrong. but since nobody can predict the future, you go with what you think is the best option based on their track record. most of the time you will be okay and right.

edit: something else strikes me. in d/s, you're either a leader or a follower. that doesn't mean you can't voice your opinion and disagree, or at the end of the day, walk if you disagree too much, cus you're not compatible.


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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 2:25:25 PM   
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When a sub and Dom differ in opinions, and have an disagreement, is the Dom always right??

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It isn't a relationship, we were just talking and that was something that came up. He feels that if there is a disagreement of any kind, HE would be right since he is the Dom.

The way you have phrased this, the simple answer would be 'of course not'. NO ONE is right ALL THE TIME; that's a simple fact of being human. And, since you are questioning OPINIONS, then I would be wary of anyone trying to tell me that his/her opinion is always the right one.

On the other hand though, as mentioned by others, this could also fall into the category of 'it depends on the circumstances, and the reason for the disagreement'.

My late husband and I almost never agreed on anything lol...both of us had/have very strong opinions and we were often on the opposite side of the fence on many of them. With that said; if I was told to do something that I did not agree with...I always ended up following his orders. Not because I thought he was right, but because it was the way things were. I was never once told by him though that I HAD to do this because HIS WAY WAS THE RIGHT WAY. And, I might mention, that he was secure enough in himself to admit when he was wrong, and to apologize

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 2:43:35 PM   
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I have here my PPOR certificate (Psychic Powers of Rightosity) granted when I graduated summa cum laude from the Big School for Doms.

Oh, wait....

Of course I'm wrong all the time. Ask the wife....

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 5:32:37 PM   
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Well he's not omnipotent, so no, he's not always right. And fortunately his ego is not so big as to take offense if I disagree with him. Of course his final decision is just that - final. But he's perfectly fine with engaging in conversation with me about things I may feel/think/know differently about. I've changed his mind about some things, he's changed my mind about some things. Just because he's in charge doesn't mean he discounts my knowledge, or elevates his own opinion of his.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:43:50 PM   
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No one is always right about everything and two
people can have differing opinions without either
of them being right or wrong.

I think it's more about finding someone you
trust to make decisions that effect you.
Someone you respect as a human being.
Someone who doesn't claim to always make
the right decision but takes the responsiability
of making the final decision.
You don't give someone that sort of authority over
you lightly. You need to trust and respect and
fill trusted and respected in return.
If I wasn't allowed to ask for clarity about
something or voice worries and concerns
I wouldn't be able to commit to the relationship.
I don't think accepting someones authority
means agreeing to never be heard.
But if you find yourself questioning every
decision he makes you're probably in
the wrong relationship or dynamic.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/11/2012 11:45:01 PM   
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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/12/2012 9:26:30 AM   
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nah it's a stupidity check. Most of us passed

really? perhaps it's an imagination test and most of you just failed? perspective, neh?


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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/12/2012 9:28:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of the time he is right,

If i feel he is not then I am encouraged to present my point of view... sometimes it will change his and others it will not.

Regardless of that at the end of the day what he says, goes, so even if i think he is wrong then I defer to him.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/14/2012 1:25:38 PM   
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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/14/2012 2:53:06 PM   
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Not always- except during a session.






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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/14/2012 3:29:25 PM   
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Well he's not omnipotent, so no, he's not always right. And fortunately his ego is not so big as to take offense if I disagree with him. Of course his final decision is just that - final. But he's perfectly fine with engaging in conversation with me about things I may feel/think/know differently about. I've changed his mind about some things, he's changed my mind about some things. Just because he's in charge doesn't mean he discounts my knowledge, or elevates his own opinion of his.



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A lot of the time he is right,

If i feel he is not then I am encouraged to present my point of view... sometimes it will change his and others it will not.

Regardless of that at the end of the day what he says, goes, so even if i think he is wrong then I defer to him.



The above encapsulate my own take on the matter.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/14/2012 4:25:08 PM   
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Ok.. I have been doing this for a really really long time, and by doing this I mean submitting/obeying.
But you know what? There are very few times I can actually say that any of my partners has been particularly wise. In fact, I tend to gravitate to men who are similar to me, intellectually and in experience. Usually they have something in them that I lack, which may be a skill or a personality trait of some sort, the ability to control me comes to mind here.

When I see a topic come up that asks the question is he/she always right and someone replies.. you must accept his/her "wisdom" I cringe. Sometimes the choices my partner has made have caused me to shake my head even to the point of voicing disapproval, but when it comes down to it I end up going along with it because that has been the dynamic between us. If I find I cannot follow his lead and there is an impasse I need to make a choice. But at no time will I do things because I believe he is somehow wiser than I. I was going to create another thead on that point but I realise that is just my take on things.

So for you OP.. you have to decide whether some guy is just blowing smoke into the mirror, or if he has a track record of being more right than wrong to back it up.



This pretty much summed up my thoughts on this topic. It is also something I struggled with when I was with my now ex Dom.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/14/2012 9:50:12 PM   
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When a sub and Dom differ in opinions, and have an disagreement, is the Dom always right??


Ok trick question here!!! Everyone knows that a true sub has no opinions except what the Dom gives them.

Next question?

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/15/2012 3:24:34 AM   
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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/15/2012 3:15:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's rare to have such a strong disagreement, which I believe to be implied by your question, where this even comes up in a well-founded and healthy relationship. However if my girl insisted on being right I would have to say the following:

You can be right or you can be in a relationship, I do not argue... period.

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RE: Is the Dom/Master always right? - 6/15/2012 3:55:04 PM   
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You can be right or you can be in a relationship, I do not argue... period.



That's really good advice. Thanks!


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