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Musicmystery -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 6:36:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Thinking further. I do not know what Musicmystery politics is since I don't keep track of that sort of thing, but my impression is he believes only wealthy land owners should vote.

Actually, that would be you not thinking whatsoever.





BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 7:18:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

This thread will live as long as you do.


That is an abnormal way of putting it.




Musicmystery -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 7:32:31 AM)

It's an abnormal thread.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 8:08:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's an abnormal thread.


You are obviously harassing me. Get lost.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 8:11:08 AM)

I may have stumbled upon what mnottertail was talking about when he mentioned torus. It has something to do with UFOs. Perhaps he is too shy to talk about it.




mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 8:15:56 AM)

Actually it was referencing the anal probe.




Musicmystery -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 8:27:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's an abnormal thread.


You are obviously harassing me. Get lost.

If you don't like public attention, muse in private.

It's how the Internet works.




mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 8:33:24 AM)

the loop is now closed.  next loop opens at 4:30p CST in Ypsilanti.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 10:14:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's an abnormal thread.


You are obviously harassing me. Get lost.

If you don't like public attention, muse in private.

It's how the Internet works.


There is nothing like unmasked aggression.




Musicmystery -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 10:18:19 AM)

Or unmasked truth, which tends to unmask aggression.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 10:29:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Actually it was referencing the anal probe.


Ha Ha




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 11:10:54 AM)

Speaking of closed loops here is something interesting.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

~FR~

There are usually two sides to an argument. Post 41 in the Hundreds of Scientists Agree That Global Warming is Accelerating thread:

"Groundbreaking science is sometimes a global collaborative effort (CERN, Higgs boson, July 4). It is more often a contact sport—especially when individuals challenge a prevailing paradigm. In 1926 the president of the American Philosophical Society called Wegener’s theory of continental drift “utter damn rot”. Climate science has become just such a contact sport. There is a consensus paradigm represented by 4th IPCC. There are apparent flaws and uncertainties in that consensus. The government-climate complex stifles healthy scientific discourse about them.

Since climate is intrinsically important, this situation reflects deeply on the present practice of science generally, and on its interaction with government policy agendas in many other areas. Grant money flows to consensus research in a closed loop system, as Dr. Paltridge pointed out in his article “Science held hostage in climate debate” recently posted on Climate Etc. The scarier the finding, the more money flows. That incentive reinforces the closed loop. There becomes less to gain, and more to lose, by scientifically challenging the consensus even though portions of it are not backed by replicated observations."

http://judithcurry.com/2012/07/08/the-government-climate-complex/#more-9059


As I've pointed out negative reasoning has a bright side and a dark side. Many just see the bright side and many just see the dark side and some see anal probes.




mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 11:11:36 AM)

and it is all shit.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 11:15:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

and it is all shit.


Don't be shy mnottertail. I'm listening.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 6:26:58 PM)

Attack Obamacare on All Fronts: Repeal, Defund, Disrupt
http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2012/07/11/attack-obamacare-on-all-fronts-repeal-defund-disrupt/

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BDM girls idolized (him). When he appeared in public hoards of girls flooded into the streets to get a glimpse of him. It was not uncommon for them to pass out with emotion. ... It was a deep heart felt love. I can't express it any other way. ... (He) was single which added to the attraction.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/hitlers-children/


The way I see it is not all states need to sign on. The early adopters will be testing the waters. If ObamaCare works, it will put pressure on the other states to opt in.




mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 6:33:06 PM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrg7oYC6D7s

close the loop, grasshopper.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/12/2012 7:03:04 PM)

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Those 13,000 pages of regulations all have the force of law and are guaranteed to confuse, befuddle, and annoy us beyond imagining.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/07/progress_report_on_obamacare_implementation_13000_pages_of_regs_hundreds_of_new_bureaucrats.html


This seems credible to me.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/13/2012 4:20:18 AM)

In the Republicans Hate Small Business... thread I wrote:

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Logic can be annoying at times. I hate to point out that there is another possibility. Both the Republicans and the Democrats could hate small business. You are assuming that the relationship is an either-or relationship. If the Democrats hate small business does not imply that the Republicans do not as well.


If the Republicans feel that the Democrats are annoying does not imply that the Republicans are in the right.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/13/2012 4:46:34 AM)

As this thread is concerned the last line in this post is the important line. This is important because ObamaCare attempts to make government efficient. In Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th I wrote:

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

It is my understanding that Friday the 13th is infamous due to what happened years ago to the Knight Templars on that day. I heard that a document was found in the Vatican archive that shows that the Pope did not brand them heretics. It was the King of France. Today is Friday the 13th and so I thought to bring up the topic.

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Records of the superstition are rarely found before the 20th century, when it became extremely common. The connection between the Friday the 13th superstition and the Knights Templar was popularized in Dan Brown's 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code and in John J. Robinson's 1989 work Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry. On Friday, 13 October 1307, hundreds of the Knights Templar were arrested in France, an action apparently motivated financially and undertaken by the efficient royal bureaucracy to increase the prestige of the crown. Philip IV was the force behind this ruthless move, but it has also tarnished the historical reputation of Clement V. From the very day of Clement V's coronation, the king falsely charged the Templars with heresy, immorality and abuses, and the scruples of the Pope were compromised by a growing sense that the burgeoning French State might not wait for the Church, but would proceed independently. However, experts agree that this is a relatively recent correlation, and most likely a modern-day invention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th


I suppose this is an example of efficient government in action and the sort of thing efficient government is capable of.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/13/2012 2:02:53 PM)

This is the original post in Obama The Imperial Ruler. Just ignore the anti-Obama slant. I felt that what lovmuffin says something important about the nature of ObamaCare in general and may help us understand how it will be implemented or should be implemented.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

Obama, the IMPERIAL president, just unilaterally gutted Clinton's welfare reform law of 1996. This means killing the historic welfare work requirements. This supension of workfare requirements is most likely illegal.

First, grant through decree deportation waivers to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, then rewrite "No Chuld Left Behind" and finally, bypass legislation that guts the only true reform in the welfare reform act of 1996 creating an even bigger population dependent on govt handouts.

It's a Sickening display of executive branch overreach.

Unemployment is above 8% for 41 months now. His lack of real leadership and now dictatorship is a partisan disgrace as John Boehner said.


If you ignore the anti-Obama slant, you uncover something interesting. Isn't workfare in essence forcing people to do something? and isn't that at the heart of the objection to ObamaCare?




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