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MrRodgers -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 5:48:29 AM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
Unfortunately, proof of income is usually required to receive most government help. Anything less than that makes it too easy for people to lie. IMO having Medicaid or other subsidized health insurance is worth giving out the info if it keeps people from losing their homes and having their wages garnished over medical bills.
My intention would be to comply with the law. I would not be asking for help. Such a demand would violate my privacy. Pre-mandate it was voluntary. Post-mandate it won't be. That changes things. Pre-mandate it was a negotiation, a contract. You contract with the government for assistance and the government says that if you want to contract with us for help you have to divulge certain information. Post-mandate it is no longer a negotiation. It is pure naked force, not a negotiation, and like I said there is something called right to privacy. It seems to me that they might try to violate my right to privacy.
Incidentally, right to privacy is the legal justification for abortion. I suppose it is possible they could magically proclaim that forcing information out of you is not a form of forced intercourse.
If you go back into the history books (and news clippings) for 1913 and just after that, there were a group of US Citizens that didnt like the passage of the 16th Amendment to the US Consitution. As it turns out, that little bit of taxation with representation helped this nation through the worst economic downturns, fight a bunch of imperialists and facists, paved highways, created one Kick-Ass military, sent space shuttles into outer space, and a whirlwind of other modern day marvels, over come the obsticles of the day. It makes one wonder, if it didnt pass, how different would America be today?
Its just a silly idea that our nation, for all its advancements in a wide range of fields, is still backwards when it comes to something that affects every one of us sooner or later, in small terms or big issues. And there are people, just like in 1913 whom didnt have any facts or evidence, but shouted from the highest building and banged fists on the longest tables in an effort to silence said facts and evidence from being heard. But, just like today, the facts and evidence is heard, and the US Citizens will grow to like the benefits of the bill.
...and yet this country did just fine for 150 years without an income tax. There were many more then and still many now who will tell you that there is no proof that the 16th amend. was ever legally passed.
There was almost none in 1913 (1% of the people paid only 1% of income) yet we raised other taxes (sold 'war' bonds, some purchase that was compelled [mandated] upon the military) to pay for WWI.
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