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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 3:27:57 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 3:45:26 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 4:42:29 PM   
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Wow! This thread has reached 70 pages. Woohoo!


I know right! Exciting!

Oh sorry dink, we can't see what you're saying.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 5:08:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see findoms as being like the lottery. There are those who think all lotteries are evil and should be banned everywhere. There are those who love lotteries and want to gamble everyday.. and there are those who gamble a bit every week or two. The ones who gamble the rent spoil it for everyone else, and just encourage those who think they can save everyone from the results of their actions.

If someone wants to give their money to someone else, then more power to them. If the person they give the money to is a scam, then shame on them for being so gullible. I'm not in the business of saving someone from themselves, since it doesn't work well anyway. You can't change stupid.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 5:11:03 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 6:10:36 PM   
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This is a ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE BDSM SITE, meaning if someone has a fetish for ceiling fans, it's legit. No one has the right to tell them which direction the blades should turn. Key word here...ALTERNATIVE. If ANYONE comes here to the type of lifestyle and condemns another for their kink, they are hypocrites. Plain and simple. That in itself, makes that person unable to be respected.

A fetish doesn't have to be rationalized, doesn't have to make sense, only thing that should make sense is the respect for it.
Vanilla people have a sense of needing everything rationalized. People like certain things that aren't "normal". That arent accepted in normal life. Thus the AL-TERN-ATIVE lifestyle. People who criticize people's kink and fetishes in a fetish and kink lifestyle, makes themselves the problem. They are in their accepted environment, it is you(generalization of people who knock others kinks) who is out of place.

You can say that I manipulate people to give me money, maybe that is their kink. I don't, however, just an example.
Get it?
Fetish...people have them, regardless of what others think is right. It isn't anyone's place to say if its legit or not. Who the fuck are you? (Generalization ) I'll tell you. You're Einstein with a dunce cap on. Your the smartest person in the world...in YOUR world.

If you have a problem with beastiality, homosexuality, or cross dressing drag queen lesbians who happen to enjoy sitting on coke bottles while eating a feces hotdog, you should not be here...unless you can keep it to yourself and not offend others kinks.
Because you kink might offend someone else, but they show respect to allow each person to be free in their fetish here, as it should be.

(By the way I'm speaking of fetishes not crime. So for the dumbasses who want to say something like "what about people who have a fetish for children" use your heads people. Having sex with minors in the US is illegal. Having a man give you money because he wants to, is not.)

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 6:34:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
So for the dumbasses who want to say something like "what about people who have a fetish for children" use your heads people. Having sex with minors in the US is illegal.


So is beastiality.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 6:40:38 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 7/31/2013 11:53:50 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 7:26:57 AM   
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if someone has a fetish for ceiling fans, it's legit. No one has the right to tell them which direction the blades should turn


At last I have found a place where I can breathe free...

Seriously, though. Based on how many pages this thread has gone on, I am beginning to see the wisdom in Alpha's sig line. No matter what proof, justification, or explanation you give the fin-dom haters, they're gonna keep hating. It's human nature to bitch about what you can't have and try to keep from others if you can't have it yourself. That's my take on it.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 7:37:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course it is. It's a form of control. Thats what pay pigs get off on- the control.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 8:42:27 AM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 8:42:41 AM   
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I used to kinda lean your way there, SM, but the lilone has kinda convinced me otherwise.
One of the great laws of life is,"You can't play tennis alone."


You can't rob anyone alone either, you need another person.

Some people like to equate findom as any other kind of kink, like impact play or bondage. To each his own is the motto. This is a little bit like saying there's no difference between bridge, chess, tennis, volleyball, and gambling. They're all games.

A casino owner is not engaged in fair play. He holds the advantage, and he knows how to manipulate his clientele. A friend is happy to see another play tennis, not so happy to see him frequent a casino.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 9:35:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Flawed analogy. The friends might like going to the casino together, the casino owner isn't forcing anyone to enter his premises, and the findom isn't forcing anyone to hand over their cash.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 11:45:48 AM   
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It may be a flawed analogy, but you completely missed the point.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 12:32:03 PM   
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I used to kinda lean your way there, SM, but the lilone has kinda convinced me otherwise.
One of the great laws of life is,"You can't play tennis alone."


You can't rob anyone alone either, you need another person.

Some people like to equate findom as any other kind of kink, like impact play or bondage. To each his own is the motto. This is a little bit like saying there's no difference between bridge, chess, tennis, volleyball, and gambling. They're all games.

A casino owner is not engaged in fair play. He holds the advantage, and he knows how to manipulate his clientele. A friend is happy to see another play tennis, not so happy to see him frequent a casino.


That all comes down to your view of morality:

Do you believe that people have the inherent right to do things to their own detriment just because they want to do it?

Or do you believe that society has the right to forcefully prohibit people from doing anything that society considers to be to that person's own detriment, regardless of whether or not the person wants to do it or not?

If you believe in the first, then neither the casino having an unfair advantage, nor the findomme providing an unequal/unfair transaction should be of issue to you, so long as the person engaging in gambling or who gives money to findommes honestly wants to do so without coercion.

If you believe the second, your issue isn't with findommes per say, but with the idea that engaging in findomme transactions is to the detriment of the sub, and therefore should be prohibited.

It basically all comes down to: "do you believe that people should have the freedom to make their own mistakes, or not?"

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 1:16:14 PM   
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That all comes down to your view of morality:

Do you believe that people have the inherent right to do things to their own detriment just because they want to do it?

Yep.

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Or do you believe that society has the right to forcefully prohibit people from doing anything that society considers to be to that person's own detriment, regardless of whether or not the person wants to do it or not?

Nope

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 1:22:34 PM   
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rob·ber·y
/ˈräb(ə)rē/
Noun
The action of robbing a person or place.
The felonious taking of personal property from someone using force or the threat of force.
Synonyms
plunder - pillage - theft - larceny - rapine - mugging

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"Mistress, please allow me to buy you anything from your wish list."


Hmmm, doesn't even sound the same. Thanks for playing though.




MasterC, I KNEW you were into ceiling fans!


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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 2:00:09 PM   
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I know that I'm glad none of my family members was addicted to gambling. If I ran a casino, on the other hand, I'm sure I'd trot out all the libertarian reasons it should be allowed to do business.

I have never advocated prohibition, just the point that it's not the same as other kinks.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 8/1/2013 2:11:27 PM   
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If you believe the second, your issue isn't with findommes per say, but with the idea that engaging in findomme transactions is to the detriment of the sub, and therefore should be prohibited.


And Prohibition is proof that it wouldn't work anyway. Even knowing that death was possible from tainted alcohol didn't stop society from drinking.


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