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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:19:28 PM   
LaTigresse


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You assume it matters to me what you value.

Please don't.

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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:27:27 PM   
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Thank's for that Peter Tatchell link Stella.

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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:45:16 PM   
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Aries . . . I'm sorry - but the video rehashed so many fundamental misconceptions about feminists and feminism that I wouldn't know where to start. In amongst all the clips involved were some things that I agreed with - the cringe-inducing apologies from 'new men'. I'd like to have found them funny - but I didn't. They were just embarrassing - in a way that I saw to be more 'American' than anything else.

But - oh, for god's sake - I'm so tired of saying it - a feminist is someone who believes in freedom for women and their equality with men. If a woman does not exhibit those beliefs, then she is not a feminist, by definition. A feminist is *not* any given woman who is selfish, loud, pushy, aggressive and basically nasty. That's just a right winger's caricature of feminism and feminists. Heads up: women can be, and frequently are, twats. Just like men. No great surprise.





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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:52:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Aries . . . I'm sorry - but the video rehashed so many fundamental misconceptions about feminists and feminism that I wouldn't know where to start. In amongst all the clips involved were some things that I agreed with - the cringe-inducing apologies from 'new men'. I'd like to have found them funny - but I didn't. They were just embarrassing - in a way that I saw to be more 'American' than anything else.

But - oh, for god's sake - I'm so tired of saying it - a feminist is someone who believes in freedom for women and their equality with men. If a woman does not exhibit those beliefs, then she is not a feminist, by definition. A feminist is *not* any given woman who is selfish, loud, pushy, aggressive and basically nasty. That's just a right winger's caricature of feminism and feminists. Heads up: women can be, and frequently are, twats. Just like men. No great surprise.







Thanks, Peon.

Unfortunately, the U.S. on balance is not a nation friendly to feminism, and it never has been.

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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:55:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Aries . . . I'm sorry - but the video rehashed so many fundamental misconceptions about feminists and feminism that I wouldn't know where to start. In amongst all the clips involved were some things that I agreed with - the cringe-inducing apologies from 'new men'. I'd like to have found them funny - but I didn't. They were just embarrassing - in a way that I saw to be more 'American' than anything else.

But - oh, for god's sake - I'm so tired of saying it - a feminist is someone who believes in freedom for women and their equality with men. If a woman does not exhibit those beliefs, then she is not a feminist, by definition. A feminist is *not* any given woman who is selfish, loud, pushy, aggressive and basically nasty. That's just a right winger's caricature of feminism and feminists. Heads up: women can be, and frequently are, twats. Just like men. No great surprise.







Thanks, Peon.

Unfortunately, the U.S. on balance is not a nation friendly to feminism, and it never has been.



Aries is from Australia. What's his excuse?

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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 2:58:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LanaDeVille


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Aries . . . I'm sorry - but the video rehashed so many fundamental misconceptions about feminists and feminism that I wouldn't know where to start. In amongst all the clips involved were some things that I agreed with - the cringe-inducing apologies from 'new men'. I'd like to have found them funny - but I didn't. They were just embarrassing - in a way that I saw to be more 'American' than anything else.

But - oh, for god's sake - I'm so tired of saying it - a feminist is someone who believes in freedom for women and their equality with men. If a woman does not exhibit those beliefs, then she is not a feminist, by definition. A feminist is *not* any given woman who is selfish, loud, pushy, aggressive and basically nasty. That's just a right winger's caricature of feminism and feminists. Heads up: women can be, and frequently are, twats. Just like men. No great surprise.







Thanks, Peon.

Unfortunately, the U.S. on balance is not a nation friendly to feminism, and it never has been.



Aries is from Australia. What's his excuse?




I wouldn't know. I've never been to Australia.

I have, however, seen one or two movies with Yahoo Serious. Does that count?

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RE: Controversial stuffs - 9/2/2012 3:56:11 PM   
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Peon, no need for sorry, I agree with most
of that! I wasn't holding this vid up because
I thought it was spot on, I already said it
misses the reality of a lot of things so it can
be sensationalist, and hell yer those weird
apologising men are frigan creepy!

Lana, what do I need an excuse for?
Have you read any of my comments...
What exactly have I said that is so bad I need
an excuse.

-ARIES

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